flyerCO

You get MQD for ANY DL coded or operated flight. This is because they know how much was spent. Anytime you fly a DL coded flight you will get accrual at the DL rate regardless of who operates the flight.

FireEmblemPride

No, a 006 DL ticket with KE-marketed flight would earn miles based on the price of the ticket. Only a KE marketed and non-DL-ticketed KE ticket would earn under the Group 4 chart.

flyerCO

No. Even if on 006 if the flight is KE marketed it earns at KE rate. Zero MQD. Being on 006 stock only matter for difference in earning MQD at per $ spent or based on % of distance&fare class. KE marketed flights earn ZERO MQD under either scenario.

FireEmblemPride

I'm referring to RDM, which would earn based on ticket price. MQD/MQM are always zero unless DL-marketed (and I guess ticketed by anyone else in ST except KE).

flyerCO

I understand RDM is solely determined by the marketing carrier. If it's KE then it earns based on distance/fare even if on 006 stock. Only the MQD portion changes depending on ticketing stock. RDM isn't ticketing stock driven.

DL marketed ticketed by anyone earns RDM/MQM/MQD. True even if on an UA or KE ticket.

xliioper

RDM is definitely not determined solely by marketing carrier. If it's an 006 ticket, RDM will be based on ticket price, not marketing carrier (as DL knows the ticket price). It is MQM earning that varies with marketing carrier. This is from the partner earning page --

"With the SkyMiles program, partner-marketed flights that are ticketed by Delta will earn miles toward Award Travel based on ticket price, instead of distance flown. "

"Partner-marketed flights that are not ticketed by Delta will continue to earn miles based on a percentage of distance flown* as determined by the fare class paid"

Note that "miles" above strictly means RDM's (not MQM's). Otherwise, on an 006 issued ticket, your RDM and MQD earning will be based on price, not distance flown (except group 4 carriers where no MQD's are earned if partner marketed). It is only when you are on a partner ticketed AND marketed flight that you use the partner table for RDM/MQD earning.

For MQM earning, you use the DL table for DL marketed flights, and the partner table for partner marketed flights. This does not vary with ticketing carrier.

flyerCO

This thread is about KE flights. KE marketed flights earn zero MQD. I can say from personal experience the SM department insists that on RDM for KE marketed on 006, that the actual policy says otherwise.

fliesdelta

This thread has been quite useful to me, as I'm about to book a trip to ICN and I was considering giving KE a try.

Looks like as long as I book a DL flight number that's operated by KE, on 006 ticket stock, I will earn the MQMs at 1:1 ratio. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Not too concerned about MQDs, I always hit the Amex waiver.

RDMs, well... one more or less Skypeso, I guess.

CJKatl

A phone agent gave me the same answer. After I read to her what was on the site, she still insisted that I was wrong and that they had just been given information. The issue is not with what the poster asked, it's with the "clarification" the agents have been given, be it they were told the wrong thing or that they were confused by bad instructions. The phone agents are essentially instructing that you will not get full credit on KE OPERATED flights, regardless of ticketing, code-sharing or other legs on the PNR.

FireEmblemPride

The SM department is wrong in its interpretation of its own rules. There are no exceptions made for KE in terms of RDM. If it is KE marketed but ticketed by DL (this can and will happen for routes they do not sell a direct codeshare on), it must earn based on the ticket price DL charged. This is the only correct way.

Any denial of credit is against the rules and should be appealed.

fliesdelta

Actually... how do I get DL to price me a ticket with DL flight numbers on KE metal? I'm not succeeding at delta.com, do I have to start at ITA?

CJKatl

It needs to be a codeshare flight. Not all KE flights are DL codeshare flights, but sometimes DL will sell you a seat on a non-codeshare flight as part of an itinerary that otherwise includes DL flights. The flight will have a KE flight number.

fliesdelta

Right, I understand that, but how do I get delta.com to quote me a ticket to ICN that includes a KE flight coded as a DL flight?

e.g., RDU-ATL-ICN-ATL-RDU, with ATL-ICN-ATL on KE (for example, I don't care what the gateway city is).

pvn

It will mix it in with DL operated flights through DTW and SEA, but if you just exclude those cities as connections it will show you connections on KE operated flights through ATL and JFK (DL 1001 JFK-ICN, DL 7850 ATL-ICN, DL 7887 NRT-ICN).

CJKatl

The only thing I know to do is to find them online and spoon feed the flight numbers to the phone agent.