Nugget_Oz

I think Continential (or was it United) used to call their international Business Class "Business First" to distinguish it from its domestic business class. And I think Delta actually markets it as Domestic First or something as opposed to Delta One which is the full frills service.

xliioper

The reality is that domestic First on all the legacy US carriers (not just DL) have been this way for 15+ years, so I don't think they are going to change the terminology now. I suspect most people who have at least a passing familiarity with US carriers know what to expect at this point. It basically started when US companies stopped paying for domestic First for most of their employees (except for the top level execs). Airlines responded by making the First cabin a comp upgrade for elites, and more recently by heavily discounting it (along with heavy restrictions similar to discount coach tickets).

I'm assuming Australian companies have more generous travel budgets allowing for business class fare purchases on domestic travel and hence the reason for the more generous amenities.

By the way, if you fly certain European carriers on their inter-Europe domestic "Business" class you can find airlines (I'm only familiar with KLM, but there may be others) where the "Business" seat is nothing more that a row of coach seats with middle seat blocked out. So I suspect you will be disappointed with them as well.

Cedar Jet

Hi again......Is there lounge access in YHZ for DL F pax? I recall AC have a lounge landside before security. Any info would be great.

Thanks

Mountain Explorer

No. DL is the only skyteam airline at YHZ. I'm certain they didn't build a skyclub for this 1 flight

Cedar Jet

Thanks. Was hoping for at least access to a third party lounge considering they are selling 'First' on this sector.

Mountain Explorer

Oh, it's you again. Most of the airports that DL serves with first class do not have lounge access. No, I will not debate the topic with you further!

sokolov

There is no lounge at the US-side of YHZ. None. At. All. Neither by any airline nor by any third party. End of story.

sokolov

With a cruel 6 am departure from YHZ. Given that you clear customs there, 6 am is tough.

I understand why they do it: They simply park the plane at YHZ over night. But as a passenger I fail to see the charm.

Cedar Jet

Yep me again. Trust me this was no invitation for debate. Clearly you are used to inferior offerings where as I am not - thus not debatable

Thanks Sokolov.
Oh OK, I thought access to AC's lounge may have been an option. I haven't been to YHZ for years so only going by what was available when I last flew in/out.

flyerCO

We're not the one that keeps complaining about something that has never been true to begin with. This isn't some new revelation or some how different from every other carrier.

Nugget_Oz

The things is as an Australian or Asian QF flyer he's likely not to have experienced North American flying. The smaller airports aren't served by two class planes and their idea of an airport would make places like GRR look like AMS.

MEMLawGuy

Good news for any election defectors!

flyerCO

The issue is we understand that, and explained it to him. However he refuses to accept that this is how it's done and has been done in the Americas.

sokolov

The Maple Leaf Lounge is in the national & international section of YHZ, not in the US section. The US (transborder) section is separate.

GoAmtrak

Moreover, unless there were any recent renovations/expansion, the transborder section is quite bleak in general compared to the rest of the airport.