Smoking Cigarette onboard DL1678 (MSP-LAX) - 27 Dec 2015
Feb 11, 2016, 6:03 pm
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Feb 11, 2016, 7:05 pm
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Feb 11, 2016, 8:24 pm
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Not sure of the lavatory smoke system on that specific aircraft, but on the CRJ200 that I'm an FO on (yes, it's the 200...) there is an automatic halon fire extinguishing system in the waste bin that activates if it triggered by heat. We also get a "smoke toilet" warning in the cockpit, but we have nothing we can do except land and/or send the FA to investigate.
Feb 11, 2016, 9:42 pm
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Feb 11, 2016, 10:45 pm
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I was on a flight two years ago where a group of passengers smoked in the rear bathroom. It was on JFK-LHR, on an AA 77W. These people were welcomed to the UK by the police who came on board to pick them up.
Feb 11, 2016, 11:49 pm
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My friend's daughter was a FA and recalled a time she had a smoker on board. He was inside and they were knocking on the door saying.."we're not angry with you we just want to know where you put the butt".
Feb 12, 2016, 12:32 am
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Had a guy sitting next to me go smoke in the bathroom a number of years back. He got back to the seat and smelled like a fresh Marlboro... It was on a mem-dsm flight if I recall correctly . I'm not sure whatever happened to him, but he was among the first to deplane and I didn't see him upon deplaning although I had a horrendous hangover and had to hightail it to the nearest restroom in DSM for a reversal of fortune.
Ironically enough Amtrak isn't too fond of smokers either. Back in 08 on a train from Portland to Eugene a guy stuck his head out the window and smoked on a delay in route and they handcuffed him to his seat and kicked him off in Eugene. I heard him yelling that his final destination was San Fransisco so he was more than a bit unlucky.
Ironically enough Amtrak isn't too fond of smokers either. Back in 08 on a train from Portland to Eugene a guy stuck his head out the window and smoked on a delay in route and they handcuffed him to his seat and kicked him off in Eugene. I heard him yelling that his final destination was San Fransisco so he was more than a bit unlucky.
Feb 12, 2016, 3:43 am
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They should have had police meet him on arrival... even if charges were pressed.
Jerk.
(maybe staff did not want to waste time filling out paperwork)
Jerk.
(maybe staff did not want to waste time filling out paperwork)
Feb 12, 2016, 4:00 am
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Feb 12, 2016, 5:05 am
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I'm a non-smoker but do believe smokers have been villianized a little too much. For example - I dont believe in a smoking ban in bars/restaurants, let the owners decide how they want to run their business and the customers decide if they want to patronize an establishment that allows smoking.
What I dont agree with, is allowing smoking in parks, beaches or on city streets. I can choose to avoid cigarettes by staying away from restaurants that allow smoking. I can't avoid cigarettes when stuck walking behind someone holding a cigarette.
I believe e-cigs dont have any second hand smoke issues and are only banned because the anti-smoking crowd are overstepping their boundaries.
I also think the offending passenger is a d!ck and its a shame the FA's opted to let this passenger slide vs making it an issue and trying to fine the offending individual. Though I guess if he was that drunk that he felt it okay to smoke in the lav and then passed out for the remainder of the flight, they probably were worried for their own safety and figured rather let the guy sleep then risk a confrontation.
What I dont agree with, is allowing smoking in parks, beaches or on city streets. I can choose to avoid cigarettes by staying away from restaurants that allow smoking. I can't avoid cigarettes when stuck walking behind someone holding a cigarette.
I believe e-cigs dont have any second hand smoke issues and are only banned because the anti-smoking crowd are overstepping their boundaries.
I also think the offending passenger is a d!ck and its a shame the FA's opted to let this passenger slide vs making it an issue and trying to fine the offending individual. Though I guess if he was that drunk that he felt it okay to smoke in the lav and then passed out for the remainder of the flight, they probably were worried for their own safety and figured rather let the guy sleep then risk a confrontation.
Feb 12, 2016, 6:39 am
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Not sure of the lavatory smoke system on that specific aircraft, but on the CRJ200 that I'm an FO on (yes, it's the 200...) there is an automatic halon fire extinguishing system in the waste bin that activates if it triggered by heat. We also get a "smoke toilet" warning in the cockpit, but we have nothing we can do except land and/or send the FA to investigate.
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Feb 12, 2016, 6:43 am
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I've never experienced a passenger attempting a smokey-joe in flight, but have seen my fair share of passengers who were totally wasted. I'd be curious to know if the guy was hammered when he boarded and then continued in-flight. The best FAs are the ones who say, let me get some water before I get you a triple brandy or whatever. By that time, the drunko has usually passed out. These issues almost always start on the ground. I know some people can 'hide' their inebriation better than others, but you can usually smell it. I guess that's one of the down-sides of having only one agent at the boarding door.