Upgrading to DL Reserve AMEX, effect on MQM boosts/certificate timing etc
Feb 18, 2014, 4:04 pm
#16
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Maybe I'm overthinking this too much. I appreciate the reports by a few FTers who didn't see their spend reset. Just to "be that way" I called Amex again a few minutes ago, and they insist the spend will reset *for MQM bonus purposes* if I upgrade my DL Plat to the Reserve. The total MQD waiver spend continues to accumulate without resetting.
I wonder if this is a recent change on Amex part.
I wonder if this is a recent change on Amex part.
Feb 18, 2014, 4:33 pm
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Maybe I'm overthinking this too much. I appreciate the reports by a few FTers who didn't see their spend reset. Just to "be that way" I called Amex again a few minutes ago, and they insist the spend will reset *for MQM bonus purposes* if I upgrade my DL Plat to the Reserve. The total MQD waiver spend continues to accumulate without resetting.
I wonder if this is a recent change on Amex part.
I wonder if this is a recent change on Amex part.
Feb 18, 2014, 5:33 pm
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The "policy" has always been that for MQM boost purposes it resets (and this is why I said as much above). In the past it may have been inconsistently applied; I'm not sure if they are enforcing it better now. Some people had some success with CSRs taking pity and manually giving out the boosts when they transferred and lost spend credit.
I'll go take a nap now.
Feb 18, 2014, 5:51 pm
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The "policy" has always been that for MQM boost purposes it resets (and this is why I said as much above). In the past it may have been inconsistently applied; I'm not sure if they are enforcing it better now. Some people had some success with CSRs taking pity and manually giving out the boosts when they transferred and lost spend credit.
Feb 19, 2014, 8:40 am
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Before upgrading my Platinum to Reserve a few months ago, I read through everything I could find here on FT on this matter and the anecdotal evidence I could find indicated that there is no reset if you upgrade cards. Based on the anecdotal evidence, I went ahead and upgraded from Platinum to Reserve, never discussing the rollover issue with AMEX, just counting on the anecdotal evidence here on FT being correct. My experience subsequent to the upgrade was consistent with the anecdotal evidence.
I'm going to be ok for miles this year to be diamond for the 2015 year but may not be the case next year. I also quit spending on both my platinum cards at exactly $50K for the 40K mqm's. Would be nice next year to be able to upgrade my personal Plat to a reserve and get another 15K MQMs for just putting $10k in spend on it. That would get me to diamond for sure another year
Mar 15, 2014, 2:46 pm
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Sort of a related question - does the "anniversary date" for the companion cert reset when you upgrade?
I'm at about $20k spend so far this year and am considering upgrading Plat>Reserve. My AF hits in April (I think) and the cert usually posts to my DL account a few weeks later. I'm relatively certain I'll pass $25k before my renewal date unless I stop spending on it, so I'd like to upgrade now, but not if it means I have to wait until March 2015 to get my next companion cert.
Also, any anecdotal evidence on whether a mid-year upgrade results in the next cert being of the Reserve vs. Plat variety?
I'm at about $20k spend so far this year and am considering upgrading Plat>Reserve. My AF hits in April (I think) and the cert usually posts to my DL account a few weeks later. I'm relatively certain I'll pass $25k before my renewal date unless I stop spending on it, so I'd like to upgrade now, but not if it means I have to wait until March 2015 to get my next companion cert.
Also, any anecdotal evidence on whether a mid-year upgrade results in the next cert being of the Reserve vs. Plat variety?
Jun 24, 2014, 6:45 am
#23
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Thanks for the useful data points folks.
I've read elsewhere that to upgrade Delta cards (e.g., a platinum to reserve), the card has to have been open 12 months. Has that been your experience?
If so, I wonder if it differs w/ business cards, since the justification cited for the waiting period is consumer protection laws.
I've read elsewhere that to upgrade Delta cards (e.g., a platinum to reserve), the card has to have been open 12 months. Has that been your experience?
If so, I wonder if it differs w/ business cards, since the justification cited for the waiting period is consumer protection laws.
Jun 24, 2014, 6:52 am
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Thanks for the useful data points folks.
I've read elsewhere that to upgrade Delta cards (e.g., a platinum to reserve), the card has to have been open 12 months. Has that been your experience?
If so, I wonder if it differs w/ business cards, since the justification cited for the waiting period is consumer protection laws.
I've read elsewhere that to upgrade Delta cards (e.g., a platinum to reserve), the card has to have been open 12 months. Has that been your experience?
If so, I wonder if it differs w/ business cards, since the justification cited for the waiting period is consumer protection laws.
Not sure for biz.
Jun 24, 2014, 1:49 pm
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So I'm going to piggy back on this thread with a question I have. I currently hold the Platinum card and was thinking of upgrading to Reserve. I called in a month ago (this account is new for me as of March 2014) and asked if I could upgrade and they told me I wasn't eligible.
Would I be able to just open a reserve account in addition to my platinum account? I'm prob somewhere near 100k on credit card spend so my thought would be to switch over to reserve once I hit 50k on the platinum. If I could maintain the two accounts, starting in 2015, I would use the Reserve as my primary and once I hit 60k move everything over to the Platinum. Is this possible?
Gratzi!
Would I be able to just open a reserve account in addition to my platinum account? I'm prob somewhere near 100k on credit card spend so my thought would be to switch over to reserve once I hit 50k on the platinum. If I could maintain the two accounts, starting in 2015, I would use the Reserve as my primary and once I hit 60k move everything over to the Platinum. Is this possible?
Gratzi!
Jun 24, 2014, 2:01 pm
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So I'm going to piggy back on this thread with a question I have. I currently hold the Platinum card and was thinking of upgrading to Reserve. I called in a month ago (this account is new for me as of March 2014) and asked if I could upgrade and they told me I wasn't eligible.
Would I be able to just open a reserve account in addition to my platinum account? I'm prob somewhere near 100k on credit card spend so my thought would be to switch over to reserve once I hit 50k on the platinum. If I could maintain the two accounts, starting in 2015, I would use the Reserve as my primary and once I hit 60k move everything over to the Platinum. Is this possible?
Gratzi!
Would I be able to just open a reserve account in addition to my platinum account? I'm prob somewhere near 100k on credit card spend so my thought would be to switch over to reserve once I hit 50k on the platinum. If I could maintain the two accounts, starting in 2015, I would use the Reserve as my primary and once I hit 60k move everything over to the Platinum. Is this possible?
Gratzi!
You could open a second Reserve account, but you wouldn't get the signup bonus for it if you already hold a Platinum.
Alternatively, if you are eligible, you can open a business Reserve card to put your spend there and also get the signup bonus.
Jun 24, 2014, 2:14 pm
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Thanks gooselee! It seems you are always answering my questions! I appreciate it. I'm not so much worried about the sign up bonus however that would obviously be a plus.
What does it take to be "eligible" for a business Reserve card? I do have a small website I maintain as a hobby/business although it's certainly not profitable or very official.
What does it take to be "eligible" for a business Reserve card? I do have a small website I maintain as a hobby/business although it's certainly not profitable or very official.
Jun 24, 2014, 9:08 pm
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Thanks gooselee! It seems you are always answering my questions! I appreciate it. I'm not so much worried about the sign up bonus however that would obviously be a plus.
What does it take to be "eligible" for a business Reserve card? I do have a small website I maintain as a hobby/business although it's certainly not profitable or very official.
What does it take to be "eligible" for a business Reserve card? I do have a small website I maintain as a hobby/business although it's certainly not profitable or very official.
Browse around the Amex forum here and you'll find a thread or two on what qualifies, as well as the differences (consumer protections, access to OPEN network, etc.) of the biz cards.
If you run a website that generates income, whether profitable or not, one could argue that it is a sole proprietorship business for which you want a biz credit card in order to separately track your expenses for that venture.
Dec 2, 2014, 9:32 pm
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So based on FT experience I am hoping I will get the bonus. I signed up for the gold card when they had the 100k Seattle bonus. I upgraded to the reserve card after my last statement closed on Nov 12 at $29,836. My next statement will be over $30k...should I expect the 15k MQM?
Oct 7, 2015, 11:54 am
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Upgrading Mid Year to the Delta Reserve Card - Will My Existing Spending Carry Over?
o.k., so my Sky Club membership expires later this month and I want to upgrade from a Delta Platinum Card to a Delta Reserve to give me Sky Club Access.
I've already received my first 10,000 MQM mileage boost and am midway to the second.
So here's my question. If I move to the Reserve Card can I still get the second MQM boost (assuming I spend the money, of course).
Let's say I am at $12,000 toward the $25,000 needed for the additional 10,000 MQM with my existing Platinum Card.
Will the $12,000 be carried over to the Reserve card? How much more will I have to spend to get the Reserve mileage boost?
Yes, I called AMEX and both the agent and his supervisor had to do research which did not leave me confident with the answer they gave.
Has anyone upgraded to the Reserve Card mid year? What happened to your spending toward the MQM mileage boost?
Thanks!
I've already received my first 10,000 MQM mileage boost and am midway to the second.
So here's my question. If I move to the Reserve Card can I still get the second MQM boost (assuming I spend the money, of course).
Let's say I am at $12,000 toward the $25,000 needed for the additional 10,000 MQM with my existing Platinum Card.
Will the $12,000 be carried over to the Reserve card? How much more will I have to spend to get the Reserve mileage boost?
Yes, I called AMEX and both the agent and his supervisor had to do research which did not leave me confident with the answer they gave.
Has anyone upgraded to the Reserve Card mid year? What happened to your spending toward the MQM mileage boost?
Thanks!