No SDS to Canada?
Jun 25, 2015, 8:50 am
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No SDS to Canada?
You may recall my earlier thread about trying to go standby on a flight tomorrow LGA->YUL. Well, its within the 24 hour and i'm now being told you cannot do SDC or SDS on International flights, including to Canada.
I tried to HUCA and the next rep told me that standby is prohibited on all international flights. It's $1100 to change to the earlier flight.
Is this true? Or should I just continue to HUCA??
I tried to HUCA and the next rep told me that standby is prohibited on all international flights. It's $1100 to change to the earlier flight.
Is this true? Or should I just continue to HUCA??
Jun 25, 2015, 9:21 am
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Jun 25, 2015, 9:28 am
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Specifically:
Yes SDC is allowed to Canada. Call up again and if they insist no, tell them it is listed on the website under the SDC terms and conditions as allowed.
They are correct that Standby is not allowed... so you need to be able to SDC or nothing.
You can use the same-day confirmed option for travel within the United States, Canada, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands on Delta and Delta Connection® flights.
They are correct that Standby is not allowed... so you need to be able to SDC or nothing.
Jun 25, 2015, 9:51 am
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I've done SDC to/from Canada multiple occasions - including just a few weeks ago.
I've had agents at DL tell me the same thing and you have to HUCA unfortunately.
If you are in paid F, another "gotcha" they try is to tell you that the flight is in "Business Class" and therefore because you have an F ticket, you can't SDC. This is also guff and you need to HUCA or ask for a supervisor.
Jun 25, 2015, 11:20 am
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Right, 'First' is interchangeable with 'Business' for SDC, as that is just a marketing designation for flights that may be continuing onward or connecting to an international route that is in 'real' business class.
Jun 25, 2015, 1:04 pm
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IMO you should not miss your original flight or even get to the airport very early in hopes of the SDS working. The GA could get in trouble for confirming you onto the flight from a voluntary SDS list. [In IROPs the situation could be different. Moreover, nonrevs can obviously do standby to Canada.]
Jul 1, 2015, 5:03 am
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Just following up/closing this thread.
After 4 HUCA's, a supervisor put me on the standby list, but i noticed i was #15 of 15. At the skyclub, they fixed it so i jumped ahead of all the non-revs and got to #1.
I cleared and despite an open seat in F they would not upgrade me.
All that said, this flight had a mechanical issue and wound up going back to the gate......just in time for me to grab my bag, run to the gate next door and get on my originally scheduled flight. The 1022 took off about 30 minutes earlier than the 845.
After 4 HUCA's, a supervisor put me on the standby list, but i noticed i was #15 of 15. At the skyclub, they fixed it so i jumped ahead of all the non-revs and got to #1.
I cleared and despite an open seat in F they would not upgrade me.
All that said, this flight had a mechanical issue and wound up going back to the gate......just in time for me to grab my bag, run to the gate next door and get on my originally scheduled flight. The 1022 took off about 30 minutes earlier than the 845.
Jul 1, 2015, 8:40 am
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Just following up/closing this thread.
After 4 HUCA's, a supervisor put me on the standby list, but i noticed i was #15 of 15. At the skyclub, they fixed it so i jumped ahead of all the non-revs and got to #1.
I cleared and despite an open seat in F they would not upgrade me.
All that said, this flight had a mechanical issue and wound up going back to the gate......just in time for me to grab my bag, run to the gate next door and get on my originally scheduled flight. The 1022 took off about 30 minutes earlier than the 845.
After 4 HUCA's, a supervisor put me on the standby list, but i noticed i was #15 of 15. At the skyclub, they fixed it so i jumped ahead of all the non-revs and got to #1.
I cleared and despite an open seat in F they would not upgrade me.
All that said, this flight had a mechanical issue and wound up going back to the gate......just in time for me to grab my bag, run to the gate next door and get on my originally scheduled flight. The 1022 took off about 30 minutes earlier than the 845.
Jul 1, 2015, 1:01 pm
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This shouldn't have happened. You can SDC on transborder flights, but NOT do SDS.
IMO you should not miss your original flight or even get to the airport very early in hopes of the SDS working. The GA could get in trouble for confirming you onto the flight from a voluntary SDS list. [In IROPs the situation could be different. Moreover, nonrevs can obviously do standby to Canada.]
IMO you should not miss your original flight or even get to the airport very early in hopes of the SDS working. The GA could get in trouble for confirming you onto the flight from a voluntary SDS list. [In IROPs the situation could be different. Moreover, nonrevs can obviously do standby to Canada.]
Jul 1, 2015, 1:23 pm
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Jul 1, 2015, 6:32 pm
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But does the GA know the reason for the standby? I'd think a GA would get in more trouble for denying a standby in Irrops.
Jul 1, 2015, 8:49 pm
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The strict STANDBY rules for revenue passengers must have something to do
with Homeland Security being able to pre-check the passenger manifest.
So that no last minute suspects can slip thru the cracks who were not
originally on the manifest.
Non-Rev standbys are aviation employees with a known work background
that can be checked easily. Buddy passes relate back to the employee sponsor.
So the GA who clears a standby of unknown origin would be liable for the
violation of Government regulations and fining of his airline employer ?
Border crossings are serious business !
with Homeland Security being able to pre-check the passenger manifest.
So that no last minute suspects can slip thru the cracks who were not
originally on the manifest.
Non-Rev standbys are aviation employees with a known work background
that can be checked easily. Buddy passes relate back to the employee sponsor.
So the GA who clears a standby of unknown origin would be liable for the
violation of Government regulations and fining of his airline employer ?
Border crossings are serious business !
Jul 1, 2015, 11:05 pm
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The strict STANDBY rules for revenue passengers must have something to do
with Homeland Security being able to pre-check the passenger manifest.
So that no last minute suspects can slip thru the cracks who were not
originally on the manifest.
Non-Rev standbys are aviation employees with a known work background
that can be checked easily. Buddy passes relate back to the employee sponsor.
So the GA who clears a standby of unknown origin would be liable for the
violation of Government regulations and fining of his airline employer ?
Border crossings are serious business !
with Homeland Security being able to pre-check the passenger manifest.
So that no last minute suspects can slip thru the cracks who were not
originally on the manifest.
Non-Rev standbys are aviation employees with a known work background
that can be checked easily. Buddy passes relate back to the employee sponsor.
So the GA who clears a standby of unknown origin would be liable for the
violation of Government regulations and fining of his airline employer ?
Border crossings are serious business !