Skymiles gold status Help
Jan 27, 2015, 11:34 am
#1
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Skymiles gold status Help
Hi I'm currently silver medallion on delta skymiles and I'm missing 1600 Mqms to get to gold medallion my status is expiring Feb 28 is there a way i can get those Mqms without buying the 3k miles or flying? Any help will be apreciated thanks
Jan 27, 2015, 11:45 am
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I'm in the same boat, but was only ~800 MQMs short; I had to cancel a trip at year end that would have gotten me over the hump. Not sure there are any other options. At this point, there is no way I am paying to get the status back given the changes taking place on 3/1, most notably the lack of free EC seats.
FWIW, I will re-qualify for GM in the 3rd week of March, so it isn't that big of a deal.
FWIW, I will re-qualify for GM in the 3rd week of March, so it isn't that big of a deal.
Jan 27, 2015, 12:05 pm
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At this point, no. The only way is to buy the MQMs - you can't even fly for it anymore.
But, whatever you have over Silver should have rolled over to give you a head start on Gold this year (for 2016 status!)
But, whatever you have over Silver should have rolled over to give you a head start on Gold this year (for 2016 status!)
Jan 27, 2015, 12:08 pm
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Status is earned by flying between 1/1/2014 and 12/31/2014. The buy MQMs deal is the only option for attaining status outside of the earning time frame above (though I am not sure of the Amex MQM details - they might apply for some members, but you would already need the Amex).
Jan 27, 2015, 12:52 pm
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Yes - if you were 1600 MQMs short of Gold last year, that means you had 48,400 MQMs.
Your only option, if you want Gold for 2015, is to buy those 1,600 MQMs.
If you do not choose to do so, because you have 23,400 over the Silver threshold (25,000), you will start 2015 with 23,400 MQMs as a jump start for 2016 status. So yeah, 1,600 MQMs short of silver.
Keep in mind that if you live in the US, you will still have to meet your MQDs, as those do not roll over.
Your only option, if you want Gold for 2015, is to buy those 1,600 MQMs.
If you do not choose to do so, because you have 23,400 over the Silver threshold (25,000), you will start 2015 with 23,400 MQMs as a jump start for 2016 status. So yeah, 1,600 MQMs short of silver.
Keep in mind that if you live in the US, you will still have to meet your MQDs, as those do not roll over.
Jan 27, 2015, 2:18 pm
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Yes - if you were 1600 MQMs short of Gold last year, that means you had 48,400 MQMs.
Your only option, if you want Gold for 2015, is to buy those 1,600 MQMs.
If you do not choose to do so, because you have 23,400 over the Silver threshold (25,000), you will start 2015 with 23,400 MQMs as a jump start for 2016 status. So yeah, 1,600 MQMs short of silver.
Keep in mind that if you live in the US, you will still have to meet your MQDs, as those do not roll over.
Your only option, if you want Gold for 2015, is to buy those 1,600 MQMs.
If you do not choose to do so, because you have 23,400 over the Silver threshold (25,000), you will start 2015 with 23,400 MQMs as a jump start for 2016 status. So yeah, 1,600 MQMs short of silver.
Keep in mind that if you live in the US, you will still have to meet your MQDs, as those do not roll over.
Jan 28, 2015, 12:51 am
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So if a customer accrued 49,000 MQMs between 1/1/14 and 12/31/14, but only accrued $2,400 MQDs during that same earning period, and had no AMEX spend waiver, then that customer would not only not get FO status for 2015, they would also lose all 49,000 roll over MQMs, and have to start at zero zero from 1/1/15 onwards? No MQM rollover at all?
Jan 28, 2015, 3:22 am
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Whoa... really? I didn't know this.
So if a customer accrued 49,000 MQMs between 1/1/14 and 12/31/14, but only accrued $2,400 MQDs during that same earning period, and had no AMEX spend waiver, then that customer would not only not get FO status for 2015, they would also lose all 49,000 roll over MQMs, and have to start at zero zero from 1/1/15 onwards? No MQM rollover at all?
So if a customer accrued 49,000 MQMs between 1/1/14 and 12/31/14, but only accrued $2,400 MQDs during that same earning period, and had no AMEX spend waiver, then that customer would not only not get FO status for 2015, they would also lose all 49,000 roll over MQMs, and have to start at zero zero from 1/1/15 onwards? No MQM rollover at all?
I know, it's hard to believe AND hard to understand how it works sometimes.
Jan 28, 2015, 6:25 am
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So in my hypothetical example, being just 1K MQMs shy of GM, or an easy 2 years of FO assuming a 24K rollover, I would instead be a mere $100 MQDs shy of getting ANYTHING, and losing EVERYTHING.
Do I understand this correctly?
While MQMs can be bought at the end of the year, does the money used to purchase MQMs count toward MQD's?
When MQMs are bought in the month of January, do they count toward the previous year's earning period, or do they only count during the calendar year purchased?
Do I understand this correctly?
While MQMs can be bought at the end of the year, does the money used to purchase MQMs count toward MQD's?
When MQMs are bought in the month of January, do they count toward the previous year's earning period, or do they only count during the calendar year purchased?
Jan 28, 2015, 6:30 am
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So in my hypothetical example, being just 1K MQMs shy of GM, or an easy 2 years of FO assuming a 24K rollover, I would instead be a mere $100 MQDs shy of getting ANYTHING, and losing EVERYTHING.
Do I understand this correctly?
While MQMs can be bought at the end of the year, does the money used to purchase MQMs count toward MQD's?
When MQMs are bought in the month of January, do they count toward the previous year's earning period, or do they only count during the calendar year purchased?
Do I understand this correctly?
While MQMs can be bought at the end of the year, does the money used to purchase MQMs count toward MQD's?
When MQMs are bought in the month of January, do they count toward the previous year's earning period, or do they only count during the calendar year purchased?
Under the current offer, MQMs purchased in January apply towards last year's accrual. MQDs apply for the purchase of MQMs.
Jan 28, 2015, 6:55 am
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It makes sense that kettles don't get rollover because, for example, if someone does 5,000 MQMs per year, it probably doesn't make sense for them to become an "elite" (FO) every fifth year, assuming that FO benefits are valuable.
When MQDs are added to the mix, DL probably wants to avoid having someone hold back on meeting the MQD requirement, rollover a large amount, spend a bunch quickly on a DL AmEx card, and then get high tier status for almost two years versus only one year if they had met the MQD requirement in the earlier year.
When MQDs are added to the mix, DL probably wants to avoid having someone hold back on meeting the MQD requirement, rollover a large amount, spend a bunch quickly on a DL AmEx card, and then get high tier status for almost two years versus only one year if they had met the MQD requirement in the earlier year.
Jan 28, 2015, 7:25 am
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When MQDs are added to the mix, DL probably wants to avoid having someone hold back on meeting the MQD requirement, rollover a large amount, spend a bunch quickly on a DL AmEx card, and then get high tier status for almost two years versus only one year if they had met the MQD requirement in the earlier year.
The single paragraph above sailed over my head like an airplane in the sky, far beyond my mental reach to comprehend.
Before even attempting to tackle it, may I first get a couple of things clarified from my hypothetical scenario?
If Delta's offer to purchase MQMs during this month of January is for retroactive application for the previous status earning period ending 12/31/14... and if the dollars used to purchase MQMs count as MQDs, then which earning period do the MQDs spent for the extra MQMs apply to?
The same earning period that the MQMs are retroactively applied to?
Or the current earning period, such that while the MQMs are applied retroactively, the MQDs are applied only to the current period?
Which is the case? Obviously, the distinction would make a material difference in terms of "saving" the 49,000 MQMs that would otherwise be lost for lack of sufficient MQDs in the previous period.
And what are "kettles"? I thought "kettle" was the user name of another Flyertalker who participates on the forum. Now "kettles' is being used as a noun, almost like a denomination of currency. Are "kettles" flyertalker lingo for MQMs?