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Old Jan 22, 2015, 1:58 pm
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Originally Posted by davetravels
Why would it matter to a DM if PMs are excluded from UGs?

Or, why would it even matter to a stockholder, for that matter?
Because some people base their self-value on how much more "elite" they are then the rest of the people in the same aluminum tube.
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 2:02 pm
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Because some people base their self-value on how much more "elite" they are then the rest of the people in the same aluminum tube.
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 2:11 pm
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Originally Posted by bubbashow
Excellent...looks like DL has finally harmonized with AA.
Did you hear the 49% paid domestic F cabin statistic on the earnings call this week and think 'Still 51% unpaid losers?' Were you a Communications Advisor to Mitt Romney?
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 2:18 pm
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
'Still 51% unpaid losers?'
Are you serious??? Is this exactly what was said?

So, now we're "losers", instead of "ham sandwiches".
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 2:44 pm
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Originally Posted by kop84
If you know you aren't going to clear 100% you may be more likely to purchase the BE ticket instead of hoping for an upgrade even with a .01% chance. Just a thought.
They tried that strategy starting in March and it failed.
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 2:46 pm
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Originally Posted by kop84
If you know you aren't going to clear 100% you may be more likely to purchase the BE ticket instead of hoping for an upgrade even with a .01% chance. Just a thought.
A good one, too! Good point.
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 2:54 pm
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Originally Posted by koreanair720
If so, why would they do this? They could still claim that we peons were eligible even if the upgrades almost never cleared...
I have always wondered this. Not just in this instance but in lots of instances:

FOs on award tix.
Medallions using AMEX companion certs.

In these cases there is probably about a 10% chance of getting an upgrade. So why not just make the upgrade a possibility instead of making people angry.

The argument that it forces people to pay for/use miles for F doesn't really work, because it's only a 10% chance.
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 2:55 pm
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WOOHOO

Makes me want to fly it just to exercise one of my unpublished DM bennies.
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 3:12 pm
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Originally Posted by houserulz77
In these cases there is probably about a 10% chance of getting an upgrade. So why not just make the upgrade a possibility instead of making people angry.
@:-) Maybe they had a revolt from employee non-revs.

We griped when they took the all Medallion UGs away. Non-revs were happy.

They gave them back to DMs & PMs. Employees were P.O.'d.

Compromise: Take UGs away from PMs, but keep the DMs happy.

I dunno!
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 3:17 pm
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So that pretty much means SEA-JFK will stay with the low-end fleet. A painful treat for the unlucky flyer that lands a B737-800 on that route going West (took us 6h 25min because of wind on 1/5).
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 3:23 pm
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I believe this was in effect as early as Sunday night. I was on an empty DL435 JFK -> SFO and it flew with 3 empty seats in Business (I am a PM and didn't see my name on the screen).
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 3:27 pm
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I think this is a mistake. My spouse does a tremendous amount of expensive domestic travel, but rarely travels overseas, and therefore finds it hard to reach DM. There are some very high spend plats in the system---some I would think with higher spend than DM's.
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 3:38 pm
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Originally Posted by pferrandi
So that pretty much means SEA-JFK will stay with the low-end fleet. A painful treat for the unlucky flyer that lands a B737-800 on that route going West (took us 6h 25min because of wind on 1/5).
They are still showing flat-beds, with an increase to a consistent 2 per day in each direction starting in June (irritatingly, not the red-eye).

I think this is just a strategic move - now that they have made us all diamonds, they are trying to lure us to route through LAX and SFO with the promise that we won't have to share the space with PMs.
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Delta Points
Stared as of today. Only Diamonds can now request medallion upgrade JFK-LAX/SFO. Effective immediately & does not matter when you got your ticket.

JFK-SEA is now open for all medallions to request upgrade.

Feel free to call medallion line to confirm if you would like.
I like it. This rewards the very best customers.
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 3:48 pm
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Originally Posted by sdadept
I like it. This rewards the very best customers.
True. I had about $8000 MQDs last year - of course $2000 of that was after I made Diamond. Maybe if I hit $10,000 MQDs this year I will make Delta 360
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