Million Miler Question: Each Year Begins With 25,000 Medallion Qualification Miles?
Jan 1, 2015, 11:18 am
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Million Miler Question: Each Year Begins With 25,000 Medallion Qualification Miles?
Hi all, long long time no post (I lurk periodically). Question. I made MM in 2014 and assumed with lifetime silver I would start out the year already at silver, but that isn't what I am seeing on my profile today, has me starting at zero (and anxiously awaiting my 30K in rollover also). As a MM do we still have to earn silver and really start at 0 each year?
Jan 1, 2015, 11:21 am
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You would indeed start at 0 miles, plus any rollover. Having annual complimentary silver does not start one at 25k mqm's.
You would indeed start at 0 miles, plus any rollover. Having annual complimentary silver does not start one at 25k mqm's.
Jan 1, 2015, 11:22 am
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Hi all, long long time no post (I lurk periodically). Question. I made MM in 2014 and assumed with lifetime silver I would start out the year already at silver, but that isn't what I am seeing on my profile today, has me starting at zero (and anxiously awaiting my 30K in rollover also). As a MM do we still have to earn silver and really start at 0 each year?
This happens every year.
The status will be updated and the true/ real status will be reflected between Jan 5-14.
You will start 2015 As Silver Medallion with 5k MQMs as rollover, if I am correctly reading you achieved 30k MQMs as of Dec 31, 2014.
Jan 1, 2015, 11:24 am
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However, if OP didn't have at least 25,000 MQMs and $2500 MQDs or the waiver by NYE, there will be no rollover, just guaranteed FO status.
Jan 1, 2015, 11:24 am
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ok just saw two conflicting replies (set the rollover aside, I know that will show). How does this work on MM??? If we have silver automatically do we really start at zero and have to earn it again???? Then what is the point?
Jan 1, 2015, 11:26 am
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Sorry, thought it was clear. I earned around 156,000 MQM last year (so will have the rollover on that) but am more confused by what happens with MM as this is my first year with that also (hit that mid 2014)
Jan 1, 2015, 11:27 am
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The point is that if your flying drops to 10,000 miles, or your spending to $500, you are still FO (until DL changes the program).
Jan 1, 2015, 11:29 am
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Assuming that you made MQD or the waiver, you will be DM and have the normal DM rollover rules, namely that MQMs over 125,000 will roll. Think of the annual complimentary FO as just an insurance policy. It won't matter unless/until a year comes when you don't quality for GM/FO or higher.
Jan 1, 2015, 11:33 am
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Or are you using the DL AMEX CC $25K waiver?
If you earned 156k MQM but:
a. Spent between $2.5k -to-$4.999k then you will be Silver, and 156k-25k will rollover to 2015
b. Spent between $5k -to-$7.499k then you will be Gold Medallion and 156k-50k will rollover to 2015
c. Spent between $7.5k -to-$12.499k then you will be Platinum Medallion and 156k-50k will rollover to 2015
d. Spent $12.5k or more then you will be Diamond Medallion and 156k-125k will rollover to 2015
If you are using the DL AMEX CC $25k waiver ... the MQD spend limits do not matter. You will be Diamond Medallion with 156k-125k MQMs rollover to 2015.
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Jan 1, 2015, 11:35 am
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Assuming that you made MQD or the waiver, you will be DM and have the normal DM rollover rules, namely that MQMs over 125,000 will roll. Think of the annual complimentary FO as just an insurance policy. It won't matter unless/until a year comes when you don't quality for GM/FO or higher.
But appreciate the answers, guess I shouldn't have assumed DL would do this the right way.
Jan 1, 2015, 11:37 am
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I made all my requirements, I am a diamond for 2015, that wasn't the question, I am on to earnings for 2016. It was about the impact of MM on where you start the count for the next year, got my answer above, it's useless and I have to reearn what they are claiming they have given me already for my lifetime (a soft term I also realize in DL speak). Thanks for all the info though.
Did you achieve the MQD and at what level?
Or are you using the DL AMEX CC $25K waiver?
If you earned 156k MQM but:
a. Spent between $2.5k -to-$4.999k then you will be Silver, and 156k-25k will rollover to 2015
b. Spent between $5k -to-$7.499k then you will be Gold Medallion and 156k-50k will rollover to 2015
c. Spent between $7.5k -to-$12.499k then you will be Platinum Medallion and 156k-50k will rollover to 2015
d. Spent $12.5k or more then you will be Diamond Medallion and 156k-125k will rollover to 2015
If you are using the DL AMEX CC $25k waiver ... the spend limits do not matter. You will be Diamond Medallion with 156k-125k MQMs rollover to 2015.
Or are you using the DL AMEX CC $25K waiver?
If you earned 156k MQM but:
a. Spent between $2.5k -to-$4.999k then you will be Silver, and 156k-25k will rollover to 2015
b. Spent between $5k -to-$7.499k then you will be Gold Medallion and 156k-50k will rollover to 2015
c. Spent between $7.5k -to-$12.499k then you will be Platinum Medallion and 156k-50k will rollover to 2015
d. Spent $12.5k or more then you will be Diamond Medallion and 156k-125k will rollover to 2015
If you are using the DL AMEX CC $25k waiver ... the spend limits do not matter. You will be Diamond Medallion with 156k-125k MQMs rollover to 2015.
Jan 1, 2015, 11:47 am
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You will get the same MM gift that most of us have received, a fine piece of luggage suitable for framing. Or maybe you select something else but you do get a gift.
Don't know about you but I am quite happy with Diamond benefits for as long as I fly, then eventually fall back to FO when the regular flying stops. I guess it's a YMMV thing.
Sorry, just what is this 'right way' that you expect DL to do?
Jan 1, 2015, 11:48 am
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Maybe this will clear it up for you. You get annual complimentary Silver as a MM (note wording a little different than "lifetime" so they can change that in the future at will). You do not get a "25K" boost, you get Silver every year you drop below flying 25K MQMs. You will still have to fly 50K MQM's any year to go above Silver but if you fly 24K MQM's you will still get Silver the next year.
As others stated comp Silver does not apply to rollovers. You have to fly at least 25K MQM's any year to have the additional miles rollover to the next year.
What "good" it is that if any year you fly less than 25K MQM's you still have some status.
As others stated comp Silver does not apply to rollovers. You have to fly at least 25K MQM's any year to have the additional miles rollover to the next year.
What "good" it is that if any year you fly less than 25K MQM's you still have some status.
Jan 1, 2015, 12:05 pm
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Complimentary Silver (or lifetime silver whichever word you prefer) says to me you start the year already having earned silver (25K being the equivalent). I cant think of anywhere else in my life where when I have been given something complimentary it isn't applied right at the get go.
Making you earn it again?
You will get the same MM gift that most of us have received, a fine piece of luggage suitable for framing. Or maybe you select something else but you do get a gift.
Don't know about you but I am quite happy with Diamond benefits for as long as I fly, then eventually fall back to FO when the regular flying stops. I guess it's a YMMV thing.
Sorry, just what is this 'right way' that you expect DL to do?
You will get the same MM gift that most of us have received, a fine piece of luggage suitable for framing. Or maybe you select something else but you do get a gift.
Don't know about you but I am quite happy with Diamond benefits for as long as I fly, then eventually fall back to FO when the regular flying stops. I guess it's a YMMV thing.
Sorry, just what is this 'right way' that you expect DL to do?
Jan 1, 2015, 12:18 pm
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Complimentary Silver (or lifetime silver whichever word you prefer) says to me you start the year already having earned silver (25K being the equivalent). I cant think of anywhere else in my life where when I have been given something complimentary it isn't applied right at the get go.
Now, let me argue the other side
Seriously? A one time gift is the ONLY MM benefit until you stop flying with any regularity. Nothing, not a single other thing. It is pathetic. And, of course, we know how valuable Silver is....nadda. Give us a tiebreak on an upgrade...geez something.