Delta goes with Airbus; A350-900 & A330NEO
Nov 19, 2014, 10:16 pm
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at present time 30% of the plane is made here and 70% is made elsewhere, also 100% is assembled in SC. So you are right that a large part is done overseas in relation to the 350 that is 0% here. Also some articles have said that since JAL did a 9.4b order with airbus Boeing is considering moving a large portion of manufacturing that was done there back home. Nothing is final just rumors at this point.
Nov 19, 2014, 10:39 pm
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Nov 19, 2014, 11:23 pm
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Airbus will have the A330-800NEO, which is close to the 767 capacity. I can see Delta ordering it. I think this new A330NEO/A350 order means Delta will eventually cancel its 787 orders.
Nov 19, 2014, 11:26 pm
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at present time 30% of the plane is made here and 70% is made elsewhere, also 100% is assembled in SC. So you are right that a large part is done overseas in relation to the 350 that is 0% here. Also some articles have said that since JAL did a 9.4b order with airbus Boeing is considering moving a large portion of manufacturing that was done there back home. Nothing is final just rumors at this point.
I don't know a % base but the A350 (and Airbus in general) have vendors based in the US. Spirit for example (who makes 737 fuselages) makes middle fuselage sections for the A350. GE does some trailing edge work for the airplane and flap work. Parker Aerospace is doing fuel and Hydro systems for the A350. Goodrich is the landing gear vendor for the program
So yes, Airbus has vendors in the US, large vendors. (matter of fact the TrentXWB also has many us suppliers too.)
Nov 19, 2014, 11:28 pm
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ugh. once again, Google before posting.
I don't know a % base but the A350 (and Airbus in general) have vendors based in the US. Spirit for example (who makes 737 fuselages) makes middle fuselage sections for the A350. GE does some trailing edge work for the airplane and flap work. Parker Aerospace is doing fuel and Hydro systems for the A350. Goodrich is the landing gear vendor for the program
So yes, Airbus has vendors in the US, large vendors. (matter of fact the TrentXWB also has many us suppliers too.)
I don't know a % base but the A350 (and Airbus in general) have vendors based in the US. Spirit for example (who makes 737 fuselages) makes middle fuselage sections for the A350. GE does some trailing edge work for the airplane and flap work. Parker Aerospace is doing fuel and Hydro systems for the A350. Goodrich is the landing gear vendor for the program
So yes, Airbus has vendors in the US, large vendors. (matter of fact the TrentXWB also has many us suppliers too.)
Nov 19, 2014, 11:42 pm
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well as you can see with a Dawgfan I believe buying and flying Boeing as much as possible for the same reason I prefer to buy made in USA products as much as possible, and even though the 787 is made in part out of the country and the 350 has some manufactures in the USA, Boeing is an American company and I support them. Also I am not as much of a fan of fly by wire. As one of my close friends is a 747 pilot and convinced me of the advantages of the Boeing system and I am inclined to listen to him and his 40+ years of flying. So to recap, I like supporting an American company and more importantly I believe from a functional standpoint Boeing is a safer aircraft. Just my thoughts and feelings
Nov 19, 2014, 11:54 pm
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well as you can see with a Dawgfan I believe buying and flying Boeing as much as possible for the same reason I prefer to buy made in USA products as much as possible, and even though the 787 is made in part out of the country and the 350 has some manufactures in the USA, Boeing is an American company and I support them. Also I am not as much of a fan of fly by wire. As one of my close friends is a 747 pilot and convinced me of the advantages of the Boeing system and I am inclined to listen to him and his 40+ years of flying. So to recap, I like supporting an American company and more importantly I believe from a functional standpoint Boeing is a safer aircraft. Just my thoughts and feelings
I thought you were implying that Airbus makes better/quieter/more comfortable/etc planes, and was just curious what the differences were that you liked in the Airbus product.
I like the A380 cuz it is so quiet...and the upper deck has the ledge on the window seats....which is perfect for sleeping in Y for me.
Nov 20, 2014, 12:03 am
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Fair enough.
I thought you were implying that Airbus makes better/quieter/more comfortable/etc planes, and was just curious what the differences were that you liked in the Airbus product.
I like the A380 cuz it is so quiet...and the upper deck has the ledge on the window seats....which is perfect for sleeping in Y for me.
I thought you were implying that Airbus makes better/quieter/more comfortable/etc planes, and was just curious what the differences were that you liked in the Airbus product.
I like the A380 cuz it is so quiet...and the upper deck has the ledge on the window seats....which is perfect for sleeping in Y for me.
Nov 20, 2014, 5:33 am
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well as you can see with a Dawgfan I believe buying and flying Boeing as much as possible for the same reason I prefer to buy made in USA products as much as possible, and even though the 787 is made in part out of the country and the 350 has some manufactures in the USA, Boeing is an American company and I support them. Also I am not as much of a fan of fly by wire. As one of my close friends is a 747 pilot and convinced me of the advantages of the Boeing system and I am inclined to listen to him and his 40+ years of flying. So to recap, I like supporting an American company and more importantly I believe from a functional standpoint Boeing is a safer aircraft. Just my thoughts and feelings
Nov 20, 2014, 6:43 am
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i think it's comical when people get all "USA! USA! USA!" in these discussions.
if you read the article, it looks like a major determining factor in the order is that delta could get the planes it requires delivered on the schedule that they wanted from airbus and NOT from boeing. it's not always about seat width and cabin size.
if you read the article, it looks like a major determining factor in the order is that delta could get the planes it requires delivered on the schedule that they wanted from airbus and NOT from boeing. it's not always about seat width and cabin size.
Nov 20, 2014, 6:43 am
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Nov 20, 2014, 6:46 am
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Nov 20, 2014, 6:47 am
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I am certainly pleased with this announcement as refuse to fly transatlantic on a 3-3-3 or 3-4-3 layout aircraft. Delta will not only win my international flying in the future, they will win my domestic travel where possible! I appreciate Delta's approach of "improving the customer experience". It is so noticeable on the ground and in the air. To me, this is another commitment by Delta to focus on the customer experience. Regarding the SEA transpacific hub, this is a huge plus for Seattle regardless of the aircraft Delta flies.
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Nov 20, 2014, 7:07 am
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I am certainly pleased with this announcement as refuse to fly transatlantic on a 3-3-3 or 3-4-3 layout aircraft. Delta will not only win my international flying in the future, they will win my domestic travel where possible! I appreciate Delta's approach of "improving the customer experience". It is so noticeable I the ground and in the air. To me, this is another commitment by Delta to focus on the customer experience.
