Y fare not clearing
Oct 22, 2014, 8:56 pm
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Y fare not clearing
An upcoming work trip just got ticketed, and per our contract, flights are booked as Y fares. My routes are LGA-MSP-DSM and reverse. Shortly after I received the ticketing notice from the travel agency, I went to check my seats and saw that the MSP/DSM legs had already been upgraded (RU as a GM), but both of my LGA/MSP legs are still sitting as Y, even though there are plenty of seats still open up front. Is this something just weird with the system that will require me to call the desk tomorrow, or could there be some weird fare rule that won't let me upgrade at booking? Unfortunately on my first flight all the EC seats are already gone so I don't even have that great of a back up seat.
Oct 22, 2014, 9:08 pm
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Y-Up fares are great sometimes there is no UP though....could be all seats taken and not assigned, I know often times on my normal NRT-SEA J seats show available on the seat map but it is sold out, I know some travel agents and companies overseas dont assign seats for some reason
Oct 22, 2014, 9:09 pm
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Upgrades can only clear when there is inventory in the correct bucket. Sounds like there isn't inventory open on your LGA-MSP legs yet. When there is, you should be pretty much first in line.
Oct 22, 2014, 9:12 pm
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OP apparently purchased a full Y fare, not Y-UP. This has priority over all other fare classes regardless of FF elite tier, but upgrades still require upgrade inventory RU/OU. For gate upgrades, Y fares rank below instrument supported upgrades and displaced passengers who have purchased FC fares, but even a FO on a Y fare is above a DM on a B class ticket.
Oct 22, 2014, 9:14 pm
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Huh, didn't realize that being upgraded "At booking"/"Ticketing" for Y still required RU buckets to be open...I thought that was generally during the upgrade sweeps beginning with the 5 day out. I suppose I'll sit tight for another few days and see what happens.
Oct 22, 2014, 9:32 pm
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If they were always automatic UG’s F at time of booking, why would anyone ever buy F?
Be patient, you are at the top of the list.
Oct 22, 2014, 9:45 pm
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LGA-MSP... tough route for an upgrade even on saturday AM so this one will likely go to the gate for a BFUG. But you should be near the top of the list. Unfortunately you might be #2 in line for 1 or even 0 seats. Good luck!
Oct 22, 2014, 10:25 pm
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Oct 22, 2014, 10:26 pm
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Oct 23, 2014, 4:51 am
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The other problems with cheaper GAP fares is they are generally not refundable. Also not as flexible for SDC and sometimes pax on GAP fares, as reported here, actually end up in the back.
Oct 23, 2014, 5:19 am
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yeah misleading information by Virginia. Upgrade at booking if upgrade inventory is available.
LGA-MSP... tough route for an upgrade even on saturday AM so this one will likely go to the gate for a BFUG. But you should be near the top of the list. Unfortunately you might be #2 in line for 1 or even 0 seats. Good luck!
LGA-MSP... tough route for an upgrade even on saturday AM so this one will likely go to the gate for a BFUG. But you should be near the top of the list. Unfortunately you might be #2 in line for 1 or even 0 seats. Good luck!
Oct 23, 2014, 6:50 am
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Oct 23, 2014, 7:45 am
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I don't know that it is really misleading, I just think some folks don't understand the disclaimers about availability. It does come as a surprise to refugees from Mr. $mi$ek, as I think fully Y upgrades on UA clear if any seat is available.
That's my reserved position for ATL-LAX, though I have often been #1 for None (that's my slogan).
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That's my reserved position for ATL-LAX, though I have often been #1 for None (that's my slogan).
David
ATL-LAX was #2 or 3 out of 0 seats available; but I got LAX-ATL - where I was #2 out of 3 seats available.
Oct 23, 2014, 9:17 am
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Especially the A320/A319's. And LGA is heavily FCM'd. I have not got a UG on that route in almost 2 yrs.