Years of being Diamond trump Fare Class?
#16
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: ORF
Programs: Delta Diamond Charter Member/1.8MM, IHG Spire Elite
Posts: 876
I was told by a collegue who is also a Diamond that someone at the Diamond line told him that Diamonds were ranked by their spend on everything not just airline tickets. It sounded a bit odd as he said it played into priority for upgrades on international flights.
#17
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Programs: DL DM, UA 1K, AA EXP, US G, SPG P, HH D, MR G, NEXUS/GE, DL AMEX Reserve
Posts: 2,035
Spend is definitely going to become a factor for upgrade priority.
#18
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Delta Skymiles, hilton Honors, Marriott Rewards, Hyatt
Posts: 156
[I]I have been a Diamond since the beginning, wife toggles between Plat/DM. We rarely fly together but when we do, sometimes she is upgraded first, sometimes me.[/I]Quote
I have had this happen before, but it appears that my wife (GM) booked our flights using her DL app and I was listed as an additional passenger. Our PNRs were linked, meaning we would upgrade together, but on the list she was ahead of me. When I book them together she is always right behind me.
I did find that you can separate passengers on the same PNR (whether you want to or not) by checking them in separately. Often I check in on my iPhone and get my boarding passes, while my wife does the same on her phone. When we do this, our rank on the UG list varies greatly
#19
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: SAV
Programs: Atlanta's hometown airline. A bunch of hotel programs. PetSmart PetPerks.
Posts: 2,531
I have a friend who is fairly high up in the Marketing Dept. of DL and he has told me that the AMEX Reserve does not impact a passengers standing on the upgrade list. I don't know for a fact that this is true, but I can't find where DL has put it in writing anywhere over the past few years.
Per AMEX - Delta Reserve Card Benefit Terms:
Upgrade Priority on Delta: Increased Upgrade Priority within Medallion tier and fare class is applicable only to primary Card Member and within the Complimentary Medallion Upgrade Program. Airport Paid Standby Program and Mileage Award Upgrades are not eligible.
https://www304.americanexpress.com/p...4#cardbenefits
#20
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Delta Skymiles, hilton Honors, Marriott Rewards, Hyatt
Posts: 156
Your friend may want to study up on that.
Per AMEX - Delta Reserve Card Benefit Terms:
Upgrade Priority on Delta: Increased Upgrade Priority within Medallion tier and fare class is applicable only to primary Card Member and within the Complimentary Medallion Upgrade Program. Airport Paid Standby Program and Mileage Award Upgrades are not eligible.
https://www304.americanexpress.com/p...4#cardbenefits
Per AMEX - Delta Reserve Card Benefit Terms:
Upgrade Priority on Delta: Increased Upgrade Priority within Medallion tier and fare class is applicable only to primary Card Member and within the Complimentary Medallion Upgrade Program. Airport Paid Standby Program and Mileage Award Upgrades are not eligible.
https://www304.americanexpress.com/p...4#cardbenefits
#21
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Huntsville, AL
Programs: DL DM 1.929MM, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, IHG Platinum, Avis CHM, Marriott Titanium (lifetime gold)
Posts: 7,860
#22
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Delta Skymiles, hilton Honors, Marriott Rewards, Hyatt
Posts: 156
Therein lies the mystery. DL's credit care partner might say it, but DL Corp will not put it in writing. It is not mention in the SM Medallion Upgrade T&Cs either. Not arguing, just don't believe it is a factor from what I've been told, and my expectation that he is in a position to know.
#23
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Huntsville, AL
Programs: DL DM 1.929MM, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, IHG Platinum, Avis CHM, Marriott Titanium (lifetime gold)
Posts: 7,860
David,
Therein lies the mystery. DL's credit care partner might say it, but DL Corp will not put it in writing. It is not mention in the SM Medallion Upgrade T&Cs either. Not arguing, just don't believe it is a factor from what I've been told, and my expectation that he is in a position to know.
Therein lies the mystery. DL's credit care partner might say it, but DL Corp will not put it in writing. It is not mention in the SM Medallion Upgrade T&Cs either. Not arguing, just don't believe it is a factor from what I've been told, and my expectation that he is in a position to know.
I recommend that you provide your friend with that link, and you suggest to him that if the information is wrong that it needs to be fixed. I would think we would all want that, eh?
Thank you,
David
#24
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Delta Skymiles, hilton Honors, Marriott Rewards, Hyatt
Posts: 156
It's right there on a page linked directly from delta.com. In my book, that constitutes DL putting it in writing.
I recommend that you provide your friend with that link, and you suggest to him that if the information is wrong that it needs to be fixed. I would think we would all want that, eh?
Thank you,
David
I recommend that you provide your friend with that link, and you suggest to him that if the information is wrong that it needs to be fixed. I would think we would all want that, eh?
Thank you,
David
#25
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: DCA
Programs: DL Diamond
Posts: 320
Thursday I was told by a phone agent that she could not put me on the SB list because it was "full." Really? The SB list can be full? She said that when these lists get too long, the system will not allow any additional SB customers. I wanted to argue, but was in a hurry, so called back and talked to someone else who actually knew the rules...
#26
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,409
Thursday I was told by a phone agent that she could not put me on the SB list because it was "full." Really? The SB list can be full? She said that when these lists get too long, the system will not allow any additional SB customers. I wanted to argue, but was in a hurry, so called back and talked to someone else who actually knew the rules...
#27
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: 대한민국 (South Korea) - ex-PVG (上海)
Programs: UA MM / LT Gold (LT UC), DL SM, AA PLT (AC), OZ, KE; GE and Korean SES (like GE); Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,995
How do you jump from Silver to Silver to Silver? Also, even assuming that you were DM in the first year of DM (charter), I don't think there have been enough years since then for all those jumps.
#28
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: SAV
Programs: Atlanta's hometown airline. A bunch of hotel programs. PetSmart PetPerks.
Posts: 2,531
My conversation with him about this was over a year ago, and I only ask because it was being heavily discussed on this forum. It's not that important to me , whether the AMEX Reserve helps or not. I guess we can all just believe what we want about how it actually works. Thanks
#29
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Delta Skymiles, hilton Honors, Marriott Rewards, Hyatt
Posts: 156
#30
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: HH Diamond, Marriott Gold, IHG Gold, Hyatt something
Posts: 33,539
One too many Silvers at the end the list (sorry). I meant I stayed Silver. I looked back at my files and saw 2005 S; 2006 S; 2007 G; 2008 P; 2009 D; 2010 G; 2011 S; 2012 G; 2013 S; and 2014 S (I was between G and S in a number of years before that while living in China). Joined SkyMiles sometime in the 1970s, so all my miles in the 1960s didn't count.