RESCINDED! Major change, you can only transfer 250k MR points per calendar year to DL
Oct 1, 2014, 6:05 pm
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This will create some interesting strategic questions as the end of the year approaches, namely do people want to move MR points to DL miles before seeing how the five tier award charts will work in practice?
AFAIK you can still transfer as usual to certain DL partners. Depending on whether other rules change, there might be ways (I'm not an expert here) to transfer more through hotel programs.
AFAIK you can still transfer as usual to certain DL partners. Depending on whether other rules change, there might be ways (I'm not an expert here) to transfer more through hotel programs.
So is this a way to cap off any given annual transfer worth at less than $3,000 for some reason?
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Oct 1, 2014, 6:27 pm
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So what is the conversion factor ?
1 SkyMile = 1 $ or 1 point ???
Possible to transfer 250k* AMEXCO points to = 250k SkyMiles ?
*Dreaming of course - not anywhere within my budget !
Seriously thinking of leaving the Delta AX Reserve card and going Platinum AX !
Points accumulated could then be used by carriers other than Delta.
Sky Club lounge access would be the same.
Access to Centurion lounge added (where available).
Any other good comments reasons ???
1 SkyMile = 1 $ or 1 point ???
Possible to transfer 250k* AMEXCO points to = 250k SkyMiles ?
*Dreaming of course - not anywhere within my budget !
Seriously thinking of leaving the Delta AX Reserve card and going Platinum AX !
Points accumulated could then be used by carriers other than Delta.
Sky Club lounge access would be the same.
Access to Centurion lounge added (where available).
Any other good comments reasons ???
Oct 1, 2014, 7:04 pm
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Other than lounge access what are you referring to?
MR are far more valuable than SkyMiles. I don't see this change being that big of a deal. If they change how SkyMiles Amex cards work we will have trouble.
MR are far more valuable than SkyMiles. I don't see this change being that big of a deal. If they change how SkyMiles Amex cards work we will have trouble.
Oct 1, 2014, 10:32 pm
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Me too, not only because of the relative values but also because I earn DL miles faster than I can spend them on trips I want to take for fun and have time to do.
Oct 2, 2014, 12:32 am
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So what is the conversion factor ?
1 SkyMile = 1 $ or 1 point ???
Possible to transfer 250k* AMEXCO points to = 250k SkyMiles ?
*Dreaming of course - not anywhere within my budget !
Seriously thinking of leaving the Delta AX Reserve card and going Platinum AX !
Points accumulated could then be used by carriers other than Delta.
Sky Club lounge access would be the same.
Access to Centurion lounge added (where available).
Any other good comments reasons ???
1 SkyMile = 1 $ or 1 point ???
Possible to transfer 250k* AMEXCO points to = 250k SkyMiles ?
*Dreaming of course - not anywhere within my budget !
Seriously thinking of leaving the Delta AX Reserve card and going Platinum AX !
Points accumulated could then be used by carriers other than Delta.
Sky Club lounge access would be the same.
Access to Centurion lounge added (where available).
Any other good comments reasons ???
I only use DL amex for DL purchases.
Oct 2, 2014, 7:16 am
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LY is a rip off with miles, BA requires a mortgage to pay the taxes, AF/AZ are basically the same as DL (although sometimes a better deal can be had there). And that's it - you're done unless you're going to asia
Oct 2, 2014, 8:04 am
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About six years ago, Qantas changed its program so that other than the very top Amex card in Australia and a couple of business cards, the ONLY way you can earn Qantas miles through credit card spend is with a co-branded credit card (as well as completely eliminating SPG as a transfer partner). Why?
- every month, they get a cash inflow from the monthly credit card spend, which sits there while individual members try to accumulate enough points to redeem, while Qantas happily sits on or uses the cash it gets paid for those points.
- it stops people hoarding points outside the program and then transferring a bunch in at the last minute to book an award (which would limit the amount of time Qantas has the cash).
- while the cash comes in from those points every month, Qantas can happily devalue away those points while still selling the mirage of 'free' flights to those members loyally paying for expenditure on their co-branded credit cards.
Seems like Delta has taken a tiny step in the direction of the huge leap Qantas has taken some time ago on its 'loyalty' program.
Oct 2, 2014, 1:44 pm
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People keep saying this, but so many of the airlines AMEX has a relationship with are useless if you're not going to Asia.
LY is a rip off with miles, BA requires a mortgage to pay the taxes, AF/AZ are basically the same as DL (although sometimes a better deal can be had there). And that's it - you're done unless you're going to asia
LY is a rip off with miles, BA requires a mortgage to pay the taxes, AF/AZ are basically the same as DL (although sometimes a better deal can be had there). And that's it - you're done unless you're going to asia
I use the AF-KL program for one-way awards for intra-North America or for AF-KL promo awards. Pretty good value there too.
Assuming DL kills off the free stopovers/open jaws, I can't see myself being hit by this DL transfer cap unless Virgin Australia enters into my plans.
Oct 2, 2014, 1:53 pm
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People keep saying this, but so many of the airlines AMEX has a relationship with are useless if you're not going to Asia.
LY is a rip off with miles, BA requires a mortgage to pay the taxes, AF/AZ are basically the same as DL (although sometimes a better deal can be had there). And that's it - you're done unless you're going to asia
LY is a rip off with miles, BA requires a mortgage to pay the taxes, AF/AZ are basically the same as DL (although sometimes a better deal can be had there). And that's it - you're done unless you're going to asia
AF/KL offer way better Classic level availability to their own members now than they do to DL.
Oct 2, 2014, 1:56 pm
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Amex MR card holders can get other people to be authorized users with their own cards and still transfer 250k points into each Amex AU cardholder's DL account? No, DL is killing that too. DL must be freaking out about something to want to cap its revenue from sales of miles to its partners.
So is this a way to cap off any given annual transfer worth at less than $3,000 for some reason?
So is this a way to cap off any given annual transfer worth at less than $3,000 for some reason?
Oct 2, 2014, 2:07 pm
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From DL's standpoint, it makes sense. They are capping the amount of miles that can be transferred to their books. (I forget the accounting, but supposedly they are a liability.) Seems that Amex doesn't have an issue with it. Odd thing is, if it affects few people, then why bother, unless it does affect a good number of people, then why would Amex go along with it? But then again, they went along with the reduced Amex Skyclub guesting...