Mar 29, 2017, 7:29 am
Last edit by: TWAforever
DL/KE current flights between ICN and North America:
Update from Delta News Hub (28MARCH17):
http://news.delta.com/delta-and-kore...nd-partnership
Will this mean a move from Group 4 partner to Group 1? Delta SkyMiles PR rep says:
"... the details you’re looking for will be figured out further down the road"
Further from the Delta press release on the date of the JV agreement being signed, 6/23/17:
Delta and Korean Air will lay the groundwork for implementing all aspects of the joint venture, subject to regulatory approvals, including:
It cited no date for the enhanced FF benefits to be effective.
New Delta SkyMiles mileage earn chart, including MQMs and MQDs, for Korean Air flights effective May 1, 2018. See posts #566 and #567 for details.
Update from Delta News Hub (28MARCH17):
http://news.delta.com/delta-and-kore...nd-partnership
Will this mean a move from Group 4 partner to Group 1? Delta SkyMiles PR rep says:
"... the details you’re looking for will be figured out further down the road"
Further from the Delta press release on the date of the JV agreement being signed, 6/23/17:
Delta and Korean Air will lay the groundwork for implementing all aspects of the joint venture, subject to regulatory approvals, including:
- Expanded codesharing in the trans-Pacific market
- Joint sales and marketing initiatives in Asia and the United States
- Colocation at key hubs with seamless passenger and baggage transit experience
- Enhanced frequent flyer benefits, providing customers of both airlines the ability to earn and redeem miles on Delta's SkyMiles and Korean Air's SKYPASS programs
- Increased belly cargo cooperation across the trans-Pacific
- Under the agreement, the airlines will also share costs and revenues on flights within the scope of the joint venture as they work to expand service options for travelers.
- Increased belly cargo cooperation across the trans-Pacific
- Enhanced frequent flyer benefits, providing customers of both airlines the ability to earn and redeem miles on Delta's SkyMiles and Korean Air's SKYPASS programs
- Colocation at key hubs with seamless passenger and baggage transit experience
- Joint sales and marketing initiatives in Asia and the United States
It cited no date for the enhanced FF benefits to be effective.
New Delta SkyMiles mileage earn chart, including MQMs and MQDs, for Korean Air flights effective May 1, 2018. See posts #566 and #567 for details.
Joint Venture Between Korean Air and Delta Announced — Effective as of May 1, 2018
Oct 23, 2014, 5:49 am
#107
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: ATL
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I'm harboring hope that one reason the partner earnings for 2015 SkyMiles haven't been announced yet (coming "later this year") is that DL and KE are drying to finalize a JV-- or at least a closer relationship.
The hope will be dashed, I'm sure, but why not keep hoping.
The hope will be dashed, I'm sure, but why not keep hoping.
Oct 23, 2014, 6:55 am
#108
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: New York, western US
Programs: DM/3MM
Posts: 4,246
I'm harboring hope that one reason the partner earnings for 2015 SkyMiles haven't been announced yet (coming "later this year") is that DL and KE are drying to finalize a JV-- or at least a closer relationship.
The hope will be dashed, I'm sure, but why not keep hoping.
The hope will be dashed, I'm sure, but why not keep hoping.
Oct 23, 2014, 8:59 am
#109
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: ATL
Programs: DL PM Reserve
Posts: 567
What is inventory usually like for KE award seats using DL skypesos?
I just did a random March '15 Friday to Friday itenerary ATL-ICN-ATL (on the non-stop KE 36/35 flights), and it priced out as 70k skypesos for Y, and 140k skypesos for J.....$86.40 in taxes in both cases. This doesn't sound like the DL.com that I know.
Maybe there's something to the rumors of a JV? That intervies the Anderson did back in June or July did have him quoted as "cautiously optimistic" concerning a JV with KE, right?
I just did a random March '15 Friday to Friday itenerary ATL-ICN-ATL (on the non-stop KE 36/35 flights), and it priced out as 70k skypesos for Y, and 140k skypesos for J.....$86.40 in taxes in both cases. This doesn't sound like the DL.com that I know.
Maybe there's something to the rumors of a JV? That intervies the Anderson did back in June or July did have him quoted as "cautiously optimistic" concerning a JV with KE, right?
Oct 23, 2014, 9:20 am
#110
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: New York, western US
Programs: DM/3MM
Posts: 4,246
What is inventory usually like for KE award seats using DL skypesos?
I just did a random March '15 Friday to Friday itenerary ATL-ICN-ATL (on the non-stop KE 36/35 flights), and it priced out as 70k skypesos for Y, and 140k skypesos for J.....$86.40 in taxes in both cases. This doesn't sound like the DL.com that I know.
Maybe there's something to the rumors of a JV? That intervies the Anderson did back in June or July did have him quoted as "cautiously optimistic" concerning a JV with KE, right?
I just did a random March '15 Friday to Friday itenerary ATL-ICN-ATL (on the non-stop KE 36/35 flights), and it priced out as 70k skypesos for Y, and 140k skypesos for J.....$86.40 in taxes in both cases. This doesn't sound like the DL.com that I know.
Maybe there's something to the rumors of a JV? That intervies the Anderson did back in June or July did have him quoted as "cautiously optimistic" concerning a JV with KE, right?
Oct 23, 2014, 9:31 am
#111
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: ATL
Programs: DL PM Reserve
Posts: 567
Just went back and priced out the same itenerary using $ instead of miles, and found that the DL coded KE operated flight (MQM earning) priced out at a comparable fare to the KE coded KE operated flight (non-MQM earning).
THAT is a big change from the previous pricing of DL coded KE operated flights being about double the price of the KE coded KE operated flights...just say'n
THAT is a big change from the previous pricing of DL coded KE operated flights being about double the price of the KE coded KE operated flights...just say'n
Oct 23, 2014, 9:36 am
#112
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Location: HKG
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It is a matter of perspective.
Oct 23, 2014, 9:39 am
#114
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: New York, western US
Programs: DM/3MM
Posts: 4,246
Just went back and priced out the same itenerary using $ instead of miles, and found that the DL coded KE operated flight (MQM earning) priced out at a comparable fare to the KE coded KE operated flight (non-MQM earning).
THAT is a big change from the previous pricing of DL coded KE operated flights being about double the price of the KE coded KE operated flights...just say'n
THAT is a big change from the previous pricing of DL coded KE operated flights being about double the price of the KE coded KE operated flights...just say'n
Oct 23, 2014, 9:44 am
#115
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Oct 23, 2014, 10:04 am
#116
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Posts: 15,027
Just went back and priced out the same itenerary using $ instead of miles, and found that the DL coded KE operated flight (MQM earning) priced out at a comparable fare to the KE coded KE operated flight (non-MQM earning).
THAT is a big change from the previous pricing of DL coded KE operated flights being about double the price of the KE coded KE operated flights...just say'n
THAT is a big change from the previous pricing of DL coded KE operated flights being about double the price of the KE coded KE operated flights...just say'n
Oct 23, 2014, 1:51 pm
#117
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: ATL
Programs: DL - PM (Sky Priority);HH - Gold; Marriott - Silver; National - Executive; DL Reserve AMEX
Posts: 5,232
What is inventory usually like for KE award seats using DL skypesos?
I just did a random March '15 Friday to Friday itenerary ATL-ICN-ATL (on the non-stop KE 36/35 flights), and it priced out as 70k skypesos for Y, and 140k skypesos for J.....$86.40 in taxes in both cases. This doesn't sound like the DL.com that I know.
Maybe there's something to the rumors of a JV? That intervies the Anderson did back in June or July did have him quoted as "cautiously optimistic" concerning a JV with KE, right?
I just did a random March '15 Friday to Friday itenerary ATL-ICN-ATL (on the non-stop KE 36/35 flights), and it priced out as 70k skypesos for Y, and 140k skypesos for J.....$86.40 in taxes in both cases. This doesn't sound like the DL.com that I know.
Maybe there's something to the rumors of a JV? That intervies the Anderson did back in June or July did have him quoted as "cautiously optimistic" concerning a JV with KE, right?
Oct 23, 2014, 2:06 pm
#118
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Oct 23, 2014, 8:18 pm
#119
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: DL DM, TK Elite (*Gold), AA EXP (matched and prob not for long!)
Posts: 251
I'm harboring hope that one reason the partner earnings for 2015 SkyMiles haven't been announced yet (coming "later this year") is that DL and KE are drying to finalize a JV-- or at least a closer relationship.
The hope will be dashed, I'm sure, but why not keep hoping.
The hope will be dashed, I'm sure, but why not keep hoping.
On a separate note, it is unbelievable that DL still has not released a partner earnings chart this late in the year. How do they expect us to purchase an itinerary on a partner without knowing this? I understand they prefer us booking Delta metal, but often times that just isn't possible if DL has no metal on certain routes. This is really mind boggling.
Oct 24, 2014, 12:22 am
#120
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Location: New York, NY, USA
Posts: 12,482
It is not an issue if ticketed by DL. Partner earning table is only relevant if not ticketed by DL and flying non-DL flights.
Last edited by TerryK; Oct 24, 2014 at 6:32 am