Political symbols on FA Uniforms?
Aug 28, 2014, 8:29 pm
#61
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Austin, TX
Programs: DL DM; DL AMEX Reserve; HHonors Gold
Posts: 1,984
Aug 28, 2014, 8:52 pm
#62
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Programs: DL PM / SPG Gold
Posts: 562
When someone inquires about the policy of GAs coming onboard to move coach passengers up to first, it is usually because the OP feels they were wronged and wants to know what was supposed to happen.
When someone inquires about the policy of FAs eating FC cookies, it is usually because they were wronged and wants to know what was supposed to happen.
Nobody asks about the policy when they feel good, or neutral.
The OP asked the question because he feels wronged by the fact a FA wore a pin.
A pin!
No shenanigans, no missed upgrade or changed seat. The OP feels that Delta wronged him because an employee wore a pin.
Maybe it's time for the OP to fly private.
WNPBNP (Want No Pin, Buy No Pin)
When someone inquires about the policy of FAs eating FC cookies, it is usually because they were wronged and wants to know what was supposed to happen.
Nobody asks about the policy when they feel good, or neutral.
The OP asked the question because he feels wronged by the fact a FA wore a pin.
A pin!
No shenanigans, no missed upgrade or changed seat. The OP feels that Delta wronged him because an employee wore a pin.
Maybe it's time for the OP to fly private.
WNPBNP (Want No Pin, Buy No Pin)
Aug 28, 2014, 9:32 pm
#63
Join Date: Dec 2007
Programs: DL, Hilton, National
Posts: 841
I don't know if there is a policy, but I think there should be.
Given what is going on right now in the world, there is no doubt the Palestinian flag could be offensive to people and would be a political statement. I would think it should be avoided, unless its intention was only to indicate language.
On the same front, I think that a rainbow flag pin, a "pro-life" pin, or an NRA pin or something of the like should be avoided as well. There's just no reason to hit on the things people are sensitive about on flights.
Given what is going on right now in the world, there is no doubt the Palestinian flag could be offensive to people and would be a political statement. I would think it should be avoided, unless its intention was only to indicate language.
On the same front, I think that a rainbow flag pin, a "pro-life" pin, or an NRA pin or something of the like should be avoided as well. There's just no reason to hit on the things people are sensitive about on flights.
Aug 28, 2014, 10:09 pm
#64
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Programs: DL PM / SPG Gold
Posts: 562
Political symbols on FA Uniforms?
Should Delta ban necklaces with a cross on them? People might be sensitive to that.
One of your examples isn't like the other. Being pro-life or pro choice, or pro gun or pro life (see what I did there) is not the same as being pro gay or pro bigot.
What about wedding rings? What if marriage offends me?
One of your examples isn't like the other. Being pro-life or pro choice, or pro gun or pro life (see what I did there) is not the same as being pro gay or pro bigot.
What about wedding rings? What if marriage offends me?
Aug 28, 2014, 10:11 pm
#65
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SEA
Programs: UA Silver, BA Gold, DL Gold
Posts: 9,779
If you are offended by something like a Palestinian flag pin, then you should probably stay in your home and lock the door, as you are not really ready to face the world.
Aug 29, 2014, 6:08 am
#66
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Maine
Programs: AA Plat, FI Silver, DL alumnus
Posts: 1,432
Aug 29, 2014, 6:58 am
#67
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: OKC
Programs: DL DM/2.768MM, Global Entry, Titanium_Marriott, GHertz
Posts: 6,748
Strongly agree as such xenophobia is ironic in view of the number of countries FTers visit every day.
Aug 29, 2014, 7:38 am
#68
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: DL FO, UA, AA, AsiaMiles, SPG, HHonors
Posts: 7,982
My thought exactly - what one finds acceptable, another finds uncomfortable - it is a matter of ones personal perspective and beliefs. Hence why a lot of B2C companies have policies on this.
Back to the OPs original question regarding policy, it seems no one knows, hence the need to speculate as to whether it is or is not something to make one uncomfortable.
Back to the OPs original question regarding policy, it seems no one knows, hence the need to speculate as to whether it is or is not something to make one uncomfortable.
Aug 29, 2014, 7:41 am
#69
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: DL FO, UA, AA, AsiaMiles, SPG, HHonors
Posts: 7,982
In the extreme, you are correct. However, the FA was wearing the flag of the Palestinian people and the Palestinian Authority, a legitimate political entity created with the concurrence of Israel; it is a flag used in official state ceremonies by the governments of the United States and Israel to welcome Palestinian officials. S/he was not wearing the flag of Hamas, Hezbollah, the Islamic "State, al-Qaeda, or some other terrorist organization.
To assume that the FA was wearing the flag for political reasons, is well, to assume. Would you assume that an American of Irish ancestry wearing the Irish flag does so for political reasons? There are many people - Palestinian and otherwise - who wear flags of their homelands simply as a statement of their ethnic heritage. No need to read political impulses into the FA's pin.
As to Delta's policy, I doubt one will find an authoritative answer on FT.
To assume that the FA was wearing the flag for political reasons, is well, to assume. Would you assume that an American of Irish ancestry wearing the Irish flag does so for political reasons? There are many people - Palestinian and otherwise - who wear flags of their homelands simply as a statement of their ethnic heritage. No need to read political impulses into the FA's pin.
As to Delta's policy, I doubt one will find an authoritative answer on FT.
Aug 29, 2014, 7:43 am
#70
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: DL FO, UA, AA, AsiaMiles, SPG, HHonors
Posts: 7,982
Quite frankly, there are plenty of people who would be offended by the sight of an American flag.
Palestine is a state recognized by the vast majority of governments. I see no problem wearing it. If you're offended, get over it (I know OP is not saying he is).
It's not a Nazi flag. That would (and should) be offensive to all.
Palestine is a state recognized by the vast majority of governments. I see no problem wearing it. If you're offended, get over it (I know OP is not saying he is).
It's not a Nazi flag. That would (and should) be offensive to all.
Aug 29, 2014, 7:47 am
#71
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: DL FO, UA, AA, AsiaMiles, SPG, HHonors
Posts: 7,982
I don't know if there is a policy, but I think there should be.
Given what is going on right now in the world, there is no doubt the Palestinian flag could be offensive to people and would be a political statement. I would think it should be avoided, unless its intention was only to indicate language.
On the same front, I think that a rainbow flag pin, a "pro-life" pin, or an NRA pin or something of the like should be avoided as well. There's just no reason to hit on the things people are sensitive about on flights.
Given what is going on right now in the world, there is no doubt the Palestinian flag could be offensive to people and would be a political statement. I would think it should be avoided, unless its intention was only to indicate language.
On the same front, I think that a rainbow flag pin, a "pro-life" pin, or an NRA pin or something of the like should be avoided as well. There's just no reason to hit on the things people are sensitive about on flights.
Aug 29, 2014, 7:48 am
#72
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: DL FO, UA, AA, AsiaMiles, SPG, HHonors
Posts: 7,982
But for DL's own sake, if I were making the policy it would be no personal statements of any kind worn while on duty.
Aug 29, 2014, 7:50 am
#73
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: ATL
Programs: Delta DM/1.3MM, Marriott PP/LTP, Natl EE, Etihad Guest, FT FNG
Posts: 662
This is getting interesting.
IBTL (my first)
IBTL (my first)
Aug 29, 2014, 8:00 am
#74
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: DL FO, UA, AA, AsiaMiles, SPG, HHonors
Posts: 7,982
Aug 29, 2014, 8:01 am
#75
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,079
Quite frankly, there are plenty of people who would be offended by the sight of an American flag.
Palestine is a state recognized by the vast majority of governments. I see no problem wearing it. If you're offended, get over it (I know OP is not saying he is).
It's not a Nazi flag. That would (and should) be offensive to all.
Palestine is a state recognized by the vast majority of governments. I see no problem wearing it. If you're offended, get over it (I know OP is not saying he is).
It's not a Nazi flag. That would (and should) be offensive to all.
Last edited by flyerslc; Aug 29, 2014 at 8:34 am