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Old Jul 23, 2014, 7:00 am
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Delta reports record Q2 2014 Profit

http://news.delta.com/2014-07-23-Del...Quarter-Profit

Another round of record profits:

Net Income excluding specials: $889m = +8.4% margin
Net Income (GAAP): $801m (up 17%) = +7.5% margin
Operating Income excluding specials = $1.61 billion (+15.1% margin)
Operating Income = $1.58 billion (+14.9% margin)
Total Revenues = $10.62 billion (up 9%)
Q2 PRASM up 5.7% (mostly driven by DOmestic up 10% and Atlantic up 7%, while Pacific was down 3%).

Expect to have an operating margin (excluding specials) of +15 to 17% for Q3 2014.
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Old Jul 23, 2014, 7:26 am
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HOME RUN! Congratulations to DL Management and all of the hard-working employees that made this happen. INCREDIBLE!
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How long before the pilot union demands big raises to make up for their past givebacks?
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Consolidation clearly has worked out well for consumers...
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Old Jul 23, 2014, 8:05 am
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Originally Posted by Beckles
How long before the pilot union demands big raises to make up for their past givebacks?
Whenever their current contract is up for renegotiation.
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Old Jul 23, 2014, 8:28 am
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Consolidation clearly has worked out well for consumers...
The ability of the deregulated US airline industry to make huge profits over periods of time has been proven in the past and is currently being proven again. The ability of the deregulated US airline industry to remain profitable over an extended period of time has yet to be proven.
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Originally Posted by Beckles
The ability of the deregulated US airline industry to make huge profits over periods of time has been proven in the past and is currently being proven again. The ability of the deregulated US airline industry to remain profitable over an extended period of time has yet to be proven.
+1. Only time will tell how many of the things they are doing to drive short term gains end up being profitable long term, especially if there is a downturn in the economy. Right now competition is low and demand is high.
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Old Jul 23, 2014, 8:48 am
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Originally Posted by Beckles
How long before the pilot union demands big raises to make up for their past givebacks?
The contract has a set amendable date which can be pulled forward by mutual consent. If no new agreement is reached, work continues at last rates/rules while negotiation continues or the union is released by the NMB to seek 'self help', most confrontationally, a strike.

IIRC, the Delta pilots' contract amendable date is 12/2015.
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Old Jul 23, 2014, 8:51 am
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Originally Posted by Zeeb
+1. Only time will tell how many of the things they are doing to drive short term gains end up being profitable long term, especially if there is a downturn in the economy. Right now competition is low and demand is high.
It's not just a downturn in the economy that could hurt the airlines, there are other factors, as I already alluded to there will be labor, who took some significant cuts in pay in recent years and will likely demand some of those cuts back; increased competition, because although there are claims that the barriers to entry are high, there always seems to be someone willing to throw money in to start new airlines in good times (and plenty of plane lessors looking for customers) and vast majority of airports have available capacity; and fuel prices, which while they are still relatively high, they have been remarkably stable for over three years now, it's not high or low fuel prices that really impact airlines, as much as volatility of fuel prices.
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Are they still charging a "fuel surcharge"? If only I had a way-back machine, I could go build a house on some oil rich desert land in Saudi Arabia. #bling-bling
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I wonder why TPAC PRASM is down 3%.
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Old Jul 23, 2014, 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by Zeeb
Consolidation clearly has worked out well for consumers...
Yeah, good thing all those changes to the FFP that haven't yet taken effect were clearly so critical for financial success!
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Old Jul 23, 2014, 8:59 am
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
The contract has a set amendable date which can be pulled forward by mutual consent. If no new agreement is reached, work continues at last rates/rules while negotiation continues or the union is released by the NMB to seek 'self help', most confrontationally, a strike.
Or they can 'Work to Rule' or undertake unsanctioned actions, e.g., 'Sick Out' or 'SFH'.
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Old Jul 23, 2014, 9:21 am
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Yeah, good thing all those changes to the FFP that haven't yet taken effect were clearly so critical for financial success!
And changing the FFP to reward current purchases rather than driving marginal purchases will surely have no downside if demand drops below capacity. No sir.
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Old Jul 23, 2014, 9:33 am
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And changing the FFP to reward current purchases rather than driving marginal purchases will surely have no downside if demand drops below capacity. No sir.
Key word. Right now, the proposed changes (ESP with UA following) are in line to make things better into next year and beyond.
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