Sep 27, 2014, 9:44 am
Last edit by: mfFrom35K
Known at this time:
- Complimentary Upgrades on premium transcon flights, namelyJFK-SFO/LAX, are no longer an available benefit for any level Medallion Elite
- Regional and/or Global Upgrade Certificates as well as Miles may be used for upgrades on premium transcon flights
- Seattle-JFK is no longer a premium transcon flight
- Complimentary Upgrades on premium transcon flights, namelyJFK-SFO/LAX, are no longer an available benefit for any level Medallion Elite
- Regional and/or Global Upgrade Certificates as well as Miles may be used for upgrades on premium transcon flights
- Seattle-JFK is no longer a premium transcon flight
Delta waffling on transcon upgrade policy?
Jun 24, 2014, 3:45 pm
#17
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Didn't any of you see the post about this, this past weekend?
Someone posted, IIRC, without any real proof, other than a he said / she said from a GA. There were a few replies in speculation. Then the OP deleted the text of his original post. Then a mod deleted the entire thread into oblivion!
Someone posted, IIRC, without any real proof, other than a he said / she said from a GA. There were a few replies in speculation. Then the OP deleted the text of his original post. Then a mod deleted the entire thread into oblivion!
Jun 24, 2014, 4:10 pm
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I guess it isn't happening in Seattle. From the piece:
It specifically refers to specially outfitted and serviced Business Elite cabins - not decrepit 757s with Domestic First seating.
This is not an “official” policy change, but Delta is now offering occasional comp upgrades to its specially outfitted and serviced Business Elite cabins flying between New York JFK and Los Angeles, San Francisco and Seattle.
Jun 24, 2014, 4:20 pm
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Jun 24, 2014, 4:23 pm
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Jun 24, 2014, 5:39 pm
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Jun 24, 2014, 7:54 pm
#23
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I have never flown any transcon route that had the UGs taken away. But if this is true I am happy for those it does affect.
Taking away something so lucrative from the DM/PM's was a horrible business decision, IMO.
I know that if I had to criss-cross the country weekly like many of you do I would definitely switch carriers.
Taking away something so lucrative from the DM/PM's was a horrible business decision, IMO.
I know that if I had to criss-cross the country weekly like many of you do I would definitely switch carriers.
Jun 24, 2014, 8:07 pm
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It would have been a good business decision if they'd sold the seats they were previously giving away, either sold them to DMs who had been getting the UGs, or to other who would be more likely to buy the J if the cabin had the "exclusive feel" of a cabin with no freeloaders (never understood that one - who gives a toss whether a cabin has freebies?), but clearly they didn't. We DMs either sat in the back or flew with another airline with the slight possibility of an UG, which is not good either way as DL gets to sell fewer seats.
A bit harsh, but not really untrue unless they actually sold the seat -- but even in that case I don't see the upgrades taking paid seats as they were almost always at the gate -- "space available."
I really don't see many people saying "instead of $500 I'll spend $2000" for a 5 hour flight. I've sprung for discounted J TATL and TPAC but we're talking much longer flights where you can actually get some sleep after the meal.
Jun 24, 2014, 8:14 pm
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As I overheard somebody say, "They took away the upgrades from their 'best' customers and gave them to employees and buddy passes." (My quotes around 'best' -- don't want to re-open that can of worms).
A bit harsh, but not really untrue unless they actually sold the seat -- but even in that case I don't see the upgrades taking paid seats as they were almost always at the gate -- "space available."
I really don't see many people saying "instead of $500 I'll spend $2000" for a 5 hour flight. I've sprung for discounted J TATL and TPAC but we're talking much longer flights where you can actually get some sleep after the meal.
A bit harsh, but not really untrue unless they actually sold the seat -- but even in that case I don't see the upgrades taking paid seats as they were almost always at the gate -- "space available."
I really don't see many people saying "instead of $500 I'll spend $2000" for a 5 hour flight. I've sprung for discounted J TATL and TPAC but we're talking much longer flights where you can actually get some sleep after the meal.
Jun 24, 2014, 8:15 pm
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I've not tried DL's product as AA offers EXP complimentary transcon upgrades on its 321s. It's a nice ride in J and there's still F to upgrade into (or buy) from J.
Jun 24, 2014, 8:20 pm
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There was a thread that was posted and deleted, but I think it was more deleted from Delta who wanted to cover it up and keep this a secret.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...a-flights.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...a-flights.html
Jun 24, 2014, 8:22 pm
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Plus, the above means that with no possibility of UG we cheap DMs would buy tickets at the most convenient time for us (where all tickets are sold) rather than the time that offered the highest possibility of a gate UG (where DL has space). So lose-lose for DL!
Jun 24, 2014, 8:36 pm
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Jun 24, 2014, 8:45 pm
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There was a thread that was posted and deleted, but I think it was more deleted from Delta who wanted to cover it up and keep this a secret.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...a-flights.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...a-flights.html
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...a-flights.html
