How are you impacted by the 2015 change?
Feb 26, 2014, 1:45 pm
#61
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: San Francisco
Programs: DL Gold, AAdvantage
Posts: 21
Big loss
There is no way I can continue to be a medallion flyer of any kind.
This year, for example, I will get about 55,000 medallion miles for two trips SFO-DBX, a SF0-VIE run, and 1 SFO-DTW.
The same trip next year will net me only 19,000 miles, not even Silver.
A pox on Delta after 20 years of getting all my business. Ugly.
Starting next year it's United all the way.
This year, for example, I will get about 55,000 medallion miles for two trips SFO-DBX, a SF0-VIE run, and 1 SFO-DTW.
The same trip next year will net me only 19,000 miles, not even Silver.
A pox on Delta after 20 years of getting all my business. Ugly.
Starting next year it's United all the way.
Feb 26, 2014, 1:48 pm
#63
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 23
Blessed will be those who work in senior positions at large corporations and other such entities with generous travel policies. Vanquished will be those who work for more $ conscious employers, the retired, and the frequent leisure flyer who pays out of his/her own pocket. Kinda reflects the current ethos of the American economy: the rich get richer and the poor get poorer!
Disregard the class warfare implied by this post, the underlying effect described is undeniable.
Feb 26, 2014, 1:54 pm
#64
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: DL PM, 1MM, DL SC, Kimpton Inner Circle
Posts: 2,416
Blessed will be those who work in senior positions at large corporations and other such entities with generous travel policies. Vanquished will be those who work for more $ conscious employers, the retired, and the frequent leisure flyer who pays out of his/her own pocket.
Feb 26, 2014, 2:18 pm
#65
Join Date: Jun 2013
Programs: DL Plat, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat, Hertz Prez Circle, National Exec
Posts: 1,357
There is no way I can continue to be a medallion flyer of any kind.
This year, for example, I will get about 55,000 medallion miles for two trips SFO-DBX, a SF0-VIE run, and 1 SFO-DTW.
The same trip next year will net me only 19,000 miles, not even Silver.
A pox on Delta after 20 years of getting all my business. Ugly.
Starting next year it's United all the way.
This year, for example, I will get about 55,000 medallion miles for two trips SFO-DBX, a SF0-VIE run, and 1 SFO-DTW.
The same trip next year will net me only 19,000 miles, not even Silver.
A pox on Delta after 20 years of getting all my business. Ugly.
Starting next year it's United all the way.
Feb 26, 2014, 2:21 pm
#67
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Programs: DL Diamond 1.7MM, Starlux Insighter, Bonvoy Titanium, Hilton Gold, Hertz PC
Posts: 3,947
Please make sure to note the domestic/international mix when posting how you are affected; this change seems to make Delta dramatically more attractive for domestic travel than for international at first glance.
In my case, as a primarily international earner and redeemer, I'm affected by needing to relearn program rules on a new airline, likely American (so I can continue flying AS)...
In my case, as a primarily international earner and redeemer, I'm affected by needing to relearn program rules on a new airline, likely American (so I can continue flying AS)...
Feb 26, 2014, 2:26 pm
#68
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: DCA
Programs: DL PE, Hyatt Diamond, HH Gold, UA Prem, PC Plat
Posts: 653
Yeah, for 2015. But it's pretty obvious that once RDMs no longer have any connection to "flown miles X multiplier" and are just "$ X Multiplier", that MQMs will be eliminated in favor of an MQD-only system.
Feb 26, 2014, 2:33 pm
#70
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: NYC, MD, LA
Programs: Delta-DM, United, Hilton-DM, SPG-PLTM
Posts: 462
I probably won't make Diamond again in 2015, I carried over enough miles this year and have some international trips that will get me there again for the 2015 year. The new RDM rules in 2015 will negatively affect me. I, nor my company, cannot/will not afford to pay the business class fares or even Y, J etc higher class fares. I'm sure on occasion I will come out ahead on a few short leg flights; however if I'm going to fly 20K miles on Delta and only get 10K redeemable miles for my trip, I'd rather go to another carrier and get redeemable miles from them for the distance I flew, I can join any other program out there and find the best deal and use their mileage program.
I'll probably do a mileage run or 2 this year if a good enough deal comes along to earn the total miles flown PLUS the bonus miles, these will all be good going forward per the website, and then use them up for some great trips in the future. Example my trips JFK - JNB earned me 42K total miles and my upcoming China trip will earn me 30K+ total miles that I will be able to use for future personal travel. These same trips next year will not even net me 20K redemable miles combined.
AND Delta has stated the lowest redemable round trip ticket will still start at 25K.
I'll probably do a mileage run or 2 this year if a good enough deal comes along to earn the total miles flown PLUS the bonus miles, these will all be good going forward per the website, and then use them up for some great trips in the future. Example my trips JFK - JNB earned me 42K total miles and my upcoming China trip will earn me 30K+ total miles that I will be able to use for future personal travel. These same trips next year will not even net me 20K redemable miles combined.
AND Delta has stated the lowest redemable round trip ticket will still start at 25K.
Feb 26, 2014, 2:34 pm
#71
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: New York, New York
Programs: AA Gold, Alaska MVP; Free Agent Super Duper Diamond Treasure Chest ;)
Posts: 4,682
I'm not sure how I am impacted yet till I see the "new and improved" award redemption levels.
These past few years I have been on a redeeming spree for my air travels, and wouldn't know what this change will mean to me till I look at my award travel options.
Delta does say though that there will be more availability.
These past few years I have been on a redeeming spree for my air travels, and wouldn't know what this change will mean to me till I look at my award travel options.
Delta does say though that there will be more availability.
Feb 26, 2014, 2:41 pm
#73
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BOS
Programs: DL DM 2MM, Marriott LT Titanium, Hertz PC, Avis PC
Posts: 15,193
That wasn't included with the changes announced and doesn't make sense, since pac who are higher level tier would be earning more and makes it more difficult for someone new to get in to a higher tier.
Feb 26, 2014, 2:42 pm
#74
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Feb 26, 2014, 2:42 pm
#75
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: North America
Programs: DL Diamond, former UA1K MM lifetime (left UA for DL), FPCPlat, DL Biz and Plat Amex
Posts: 644
Low cost longhaul tkts. Even with Plat and Amex, DL will lose my biz.
If UA follows, will fly less.
It's a shame, since I was planning on shifting 25000 from UA to DL this yr, dropping from 1K to Plat on UA, because of full m$s waiver on amex reserve. UA only waives thru Plat.
With miles inflation and now lower earns, miles mean nothing. :-(
If UA follows, will fly less.
It's a shame, since I was planning on shifting 25000 from UA to DL this yr, dropping from 1K to Plat on UA, because of full m$s waiver on amex reserve. UA only waives thru Plat.
With miles inflation and now lower earns, miles mean nothing. :-(