2015 SkyMiles Program News from Delta
Jan 28, 2015, 1:46 pm
#1081
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: BUR
Programs: AA, DL Platinum, AS, AF/KL, UA, VS, HA, Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold, Hertz Presidents Circle
Posts: 1,788
When bumbed, earn 0 miles?
Had an LAX-ATL-BDL, BDL-MSP-LAX itinerary all on an X fare.
For my LAX-ATL flight, I took a VDB. On my changed flights, also LAX-ATL-BDL, I saw them listed as a Y fare.
I see the inbound BDL-MSP-LAX miles have posted - 972 SM including FO bonus - gee, thanks DL - and 2586 MQMs.
But for the outbound LAX-ATL-BDL flights, I'm seeing ZERO miles with the "Reason Code" as "N" - "Activity is not eligible for mileage credit." No SM, no MQMs, not even segments.
Is this an error or is this part of the new program?
For my LAX-ATL flight, I took a VDB. On my changed flights, also LAX-ATL-BDL, I saw them listed as a Y fare.
I see the inbound BDL-MSP-LAX miles have posted - 972 SM including FO bonus - gee, thanks DL - and 2586 MQMs.
But for the outbound LAX-ATL-BDL flights, I'm seeing ZERO miles with the "Reason Code" as "N" - "Activity is not eligible for mileage credit." No SM, no MQMs, not even segments.
Is this an error or is this part of the new program?
Jan 28, 2015, 4:53 pm
#1082
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 12
Just noticed the changes.. 10 years on platinum/gold on delta and this will be my last - switching immediately.
Who should I be looking at when flying regularly from LAX/SAN to varied destinations (US, some europe). Was considering the challenge on American.
Who should I be looking at when flying regularly from LAX/SAN to varied destinations (US, some europe). Was considering the challenge on American.
Jan 28, 2015, 9:43 pm
#1083
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Between AUS, EWR, and YTO In a little twisty maze of airline seats, all alike.. but I wanna go home with the armadillo
Programs: CO, NW, & UA forum moderator emeritus
Posts: 35,363
rt of shenanigans as DL that would seem to be a logical choice. Of course nothing says that AA isn't going to do the same once US is fully integrated in.
Jan 28, 2015, 9:51 pm
#1084
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Bay Area
Programs: DL SM, UA MP.
Posts: 12,729
Main problem with AA seems to be limited TATL options, especially for awards, compared to *A.
Even the poor TATL availability on SkyMiles may be better than AA/OW.
At least TATL award availability out of SFO on AA seems poor.
Even the poor TATL availability on SkyMiles may be better than AA/OW.
At least TATL award availability out of SFO on AA seems poor.
Jan 29, 2015, 12:55 am
#1085
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: DL Plat, SPG Plat
Posts: 41
AF/ DL RDM accrual comparison
Hi. So here's my question concerning mileage accrual on partner airlines for 2015. Looked here on FT but yielded no results, so apologies in advance if this has been addressed previously.
Looking at an AF flight, let's say it's a 10k miles nonstop flight for easy math purposes. Ticket cost is $1500 (Class V).
It earns the following per link below:
A) 25% Base Miles
B) 25% Total Miles earned
C) 100% MQM
D) 80% Medallion Mileage Bonus (Eg.Platinum status)
Just to understand correctly, is this what would get posted to one's account:
A) 2,500 miles (cancels out B?)
B) 2,500 miles
C) 10,000 miles
D) 8,000 miles
For a total of 10,500 RDM, and 10,000 MQM.
For comparison, for a DL 006 stock, it would be 10,000 MQM + 13,500 RDM (9 x 1,500).
Is this right?
Thanks in advance.
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...ir-france.html
Looking at an AF flight, let's say it's a 10k miles nonstop flight for easy math purposes. Ticket cost is $1500 (Class V).
It earns the following per link below:
A) 25% Base Miles
B) 25% Total Miles earned
C) 100% MQM
D) 80% Medallion Mileage Bonus (Eg.Platinum status)
Just to understand correctly, is this what would get posted to one's account:
A) 2,500 miles (cancels out B?)
B) 2,500 miles
C) 10,000 miles
D) 8,000 miles
For a total of 10,500 RDM, and 10,000 MQM.
For comparison, for a DL 006 stock, it would be 10,000 MQM + 13,500 RDM (9 x 1,500).
Is this right?
Thanks in advance.
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...ir-france.html
Jan 31, 2015, 5:39 am
#1087
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 47
As a 2014 PM, 2015 PM flew an identical itinerary in January as I did in December 2014:
Dec 2014: DAY-DTW-LAS, LAS-ATL-DAY, 4496 MQM, 4 MQS, $380 MQD, 4496 base miles, 4496 bonus miles, 8992 total miles
Jan 2015: DAY-DTW-LAS, LAS-ATL-DAY, 4496 MQM, 4 MQS, $380 MQD, 1900 base miles, 1520 bonus miles, 3420 total miles
This is a typical price and itinerary for me and I was upgraded on all legs w/o using RUCs which was cool.
So if I understand the 2015 rules, qualifying seems to be the same MQMs and MQDs but Delta is crediting a lot less total miles (based on the ticket price) accruing less for mileage based tickets or upgrades?
Dec 2014: DAY-DTW-LAS, LAS-ATL-DAY, 4496 MQM, 4 MQS, $380 MQD, 4496 base miles, 4496 bonus miles, 8992 total miles
Jan 2015: DAY-DTW-LAS, LAS-ATL-DAY, 4496 MQM, 4 MQS, $380 MQD, 1900 base miles, 1520 bonus miles, 3420 total miles
This is a typical price and itinerary for me and I was upgraded on all legs w/o using RUCs which was cool.
So if I understand the 2015 rules, qualifying seems to be the same MQMs and MQDs but Delta is crediting a lot less total miles (based on the ticket price) accruing less for mileage based tickets or upgrades?
Jan 31, 2015, 10:12 am
#1088
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: BOS/MHT (Lakes Region)
Programs: DL PM(sigh)/2.3MM & a bunch of other programs...
Posts: 692
Originally Posted by fredq2
So if I understand the 2015 rules, qualifying seems to be the same MQMs and MQDs but Delta is crediting a lot less total miles (based on the ticket price) accruing less for mileage based tickets or upgrades?
Seems to me that the only way to "make out" vs. last year is to buy expensive tickets on short routes.
The break-even point for me on my regular BOS-YYZ RT is around $409 in MQDs ($520 fare incl taxes). That's hard to justify when AC is popping up at $250 RT.
Feb 2, 2015, 6:21 pm
#1089
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 71
Sorry if i haven't gone through all 73 pages to check, but the wiki may want to mention that they took away award stopovers completely because of introducing one way awards. RIP that along with RTW awards. Some of the redeeming features this program still had along with no expiry. Also has anyone seen evidence of "more seats at the lower level?"
This is a general question, but I just wanted to confirm that booking a round trip can still save miles compared to 2 separate one-ways. In other words they aren't going completely southwest on us.
This is a general question, but I just wanted to confirm that booking a round trip can still save miles compared to 2 separate one-ways. In other words they aren't going completely southwest on us.
Last edited by LowLevelElite; Feb 3, 2015 at 12:55 pm
Feb 3, 2015, 8:39 am
#1090
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: VPS
Programs: IHG Diamond, Delta PM, Hilton Gold, Accor Gold, Marriott Silver
Posts: 7,253
I'm seeing a lot more transatlantic low level options out of VPS. As in they actually kind of exist now. There was a thread a little bit back, and it sounded like I wasn't the only outstation captive who was seeing improvement.
Feb 4, 2015, 8:34 am
#1092
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Charlotte NC USA
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, AA Exec Plat, Alaska 75k, IHG Diamond, Wyndham Diamond, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 862
Does anyone have a current DL spreadsheet they'd be willing to share?
A generous FT poster has hosted several sheets at http://stonecarver.com/flyertalk/spreadsheet.html , but I didn't see anything updated for recent changes. (I realize these could be modified, but I'm simply too unskilled at excel to attempt this myself).
TIA for any help!
A generous FT poster has hosted several sheets at http://stonecarver.com/flyertalk/spreadsheet.html , but I didn't see anything updated for recent changes. (I realize these could be modified, but I'm simply too unskilled at excel to attempt this myself).
TIA for any help!
Feb 11, 2015, 8:51 pm
#1093
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Las Vegas
Programs: DL DM, AA PlatPro, Hilton DM, Hyatt Glob, Marriott Titanium, Hertz PC, National EE
Posts: 1,532
My first "Skymiles 2015" longer RT flight yielded 4,037 miles instead of 18,594 miles if this was last year.
I decided to at least send Delta what I thought about it... here's what I received back:
I decided to at least send Delta what I thought about it... here's what I received back:
We understand the 2015 program updates affect members in different ways, but they best balance the needs of our customers and our business. We’re confident the updates are the right moves for our customers and airline.
Members who spend more with Delta now receive more miles, and customers who purchase lower fares still receive a great value for their ticket.
This model, based on dollars spent, is common for many businesses, including those in the travel industry. Hotels and rental car companies have used it for some time, and other airlines have moved in this direction.
You may now also enjoy more redemption options, including the ability
to:
-Redeem miles for any Delta Air Lines flight, with no blackout dates.
-Enjoy more Award Seats for fewer miles and more redemption levels overall.
-Take advantage of new One-Way Awards (half price of round trip).
-Choose new Miles + Cash Award options (pay for a portion of a ticket with miles and the other portion with cash).
-Experience improved Award Ticket search and shopping, including an all-new Award calendar.
Members who spend more with Delta now receive more miles, and customers who purchase lower fares still receive a great value for their ticket.
This model, based on dollars spent, is common for many businesses, including those in the travel industry. Hotels and rental car companies have used it for some time, and other airlines have moved in this direction.
You may now also enjoy more redemption options, including the ability
to:
-Redeem miles for any Delta Air Lines flight, with no blackout dates.
-Enjoy more Award Seats for fewer miles and more redemption levels overall.
-Take advantage of new One-Way Awards (half price of round trip).
-Choose new Miles + Cash Award options (pay for a portion of a ticket with miles and the other portion with cash).
-Experience improved Award Ticket search and shopping, including an all-new Award calendar.
Feb 11, 2015, 10:10 pm
#1094
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Atlanta,GA
Programs: American AAdvantage ExecPlat, Former DL Skymiles Diamond (MM), Marriott Lifetime Platinum
Posts: 203
Over a decade with Delta, Million miler .... done.
Feb 15, 2015, 7:52 am
#1095
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SEA
Programs: AS MVPG & BoardRoom
Posts: 289
Award Miles Deflation
Good morning All,
I have finally reached the 200K award miles goal so that I could take a RTW but did DL just change their award travel price structures?
Even US to SE Asia Award Fares appear to have gone up significantly.
Any insight appreciated...I feel like I now need a wheelbarrow of miles just to buy a milk run...
Thanks
I have finally reached the 200K award miles goal so that I could take a RTW but did DL just change their award travel price structures?
Even US to SE Asia Award Fares appear to have gone up significantly.
Any insight appreciated...I feel like I now need a wheelbarrow of miles just to buy a milk run...
Thanks
