A319 and A320 fleet to be reconfigured, AVOD for A319s
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Well let's see...
You don't seem to be referring to the A319/A320s
The 737s are nobody's favorite.
The D95s are going away.
The M88s and M90s are already around 10%, which seems to be DL's target.
The 757s stick out like a sore thumb in this regard... upwards of 14% in some cases.
My guess is a reduction in F on the 757s to the 20F range, more in line with the 739s. Rip out the lavs and galley between F and Y and I'm sure some MBA has already figured out how many more Y seats you can squeeze in front of doors 2L/R.
You don't seem to be referring to the A319/A320s
The 737s are nobody's favorite.
The D95s are going away.
The M88s and M90s are already around 10%, which seems to be DL's target.
The 757s stick out like a sore thumb in this regard... upwards of 14% in some cases.
My guess is a reduction in F on the 757s to the 20F range, more in line with the 739s. Rip out the lavs and galley between F and Y and I'm sure some MBA has already figured out how many more Y seats you can squeeze in front of doors 2L/R.
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Seems like a foregone conclusion that the A320 is going to get an additional FA, being at 150 seats already in the current configuration. I doubt the A319 is going to get there, given it maxes out at 156 in a cramped all-Y config. Even Spirit only manages 145.
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Who needs those pesky galleys or lavs when tasking a 320 or 319 on a max range flight. Pax can just hold it for 5 hours right? I'm sure FAs will be 'excited' to work with an even more cramped galley too.
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Unfortunately the routes I fly these days the airbus is about my only choice.
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Originally at NW, we did have individual screens that dropped down. The main equipment the last row of seats a/c L. The equipment didn't work well. The last row of seats was replaced and more compact video equipment was installed in the last overhead bin a/c L. It was also about that time the fleet had individual phones were in the seat backs. Only two people could use a phone at a time or weren't used because the price was too high. They also had problems with reliability.
In the end NW scrapped both systems and phones.
That was a long time ago. Maybe equipment has become more reliable. What I was hearing was a "scaled down" version of AVOD. I have no clue what that means.
In the end NW scrapped both systems and phones.
That was a long time ago. Maybe equipment has become more reliable. What I was hearing was a "scaled down" version of AVOD. I have no clue what that means.
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BTW, do you happen to know what models of seats will be installed?
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Panasonic offers the DMPES overhead video system, which has the videos stored digitally onboard the aircraft instead of on videotapes. Perhaps this is what DL would go with if overhead video were to be installed on the A320s.
BTW, do you happen to know what models of seats will be installed?
BTW, do you happen to know what models of seats will be installed?
As for seats, it sounded to me that they would use a "streamlined" seat. What model or brand I don't know. All I know is that the seats aren't as bulky. But again, that would be more speculation on my part. I'm not a Mech and a lot of the terminology just goes over my head.
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At his point, it would be speculation on my part if DL does anything with the IFE.
As for seats, it sounded to me that they would use a "streamlined" seat. What model or brand I don't know. All I know is that the seats aren't as bulky. But again, that would be more speculation on my part. I'm not a Mech and a lot of the terminology just goes over my head.
As for seats, it sounded to me that they would use a "streamlined" seat. What model or brand I don't know. All I know is that the seats aren't as bulky. But again, that would be more speculation on my part. I'm not a Mech and a lot of the terminology just goes over my head.
Of course, DL could surprise us and go with the Recaro BL3520 or the Aviointeriors Columbus Three instead. I actually wouldn't be very surprised if DL chooses Recaro, considering NW historically split its seating business between Recaro and B/E Aerospace (PMDL mostly bought seats from Weber and B/E Aerospace).
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The only thought that popped into my mind is Delta's system they announced that would allow for streaming of IFE options on mobile devices. The Airbus fleet already have had the Gogo wifi installed. How much more would it take to install the system that streams the IFE? Just a random thought and my two cents.
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Well let's see...
The 757s stick out like a sore thumb in this regard... upwards of 14% in some cases.
My guess is a reduction in F on the 757s to the 20F range, more in line with the 739s. Rip out the lavs and galley between F and Y and I'm sure some MBA has already figured out how many more Y seats you can squeeze in front of doors 2L/R.
The 757s stick out like a sore thumb in this regard... upwards of 14% in some cases.
My guess is a reduction in F on the 757s to the 20F range, more in line with the 739s. Rip out the lavs and galley between F and Y and I'm sure some MBA has already figured out how many more Y seats you can squeeze in front of doors 2L/R.
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Well let's see...
You don't seem to be referring to the A319/A320s
The 737s are nobody's favorite.
The D95s are going away.
The M88s and M90s are already around 10%, which seems to be DL's target.
The 757s stick out like a sore thumb in this regard... upwards of 14% in some cases.
My guess is a reduction in F on the 757s to the 20F range, more in line with the 739s. Rip out the lavs and galley between F and Y and I'm sure some MBA has already figured out how many more Y seats you can squeeze in front of doors 2L/R.
You don't seem to be referring to the A319/A320s
The 737s are nobody's favorite.
The D95s are going away.
The M88s and M90s are already around 10%, which seems to be DL's target.
The 757s stick out like a sore thumb in this regard... upwards of 14% in some cases.
My guess is a reduction in F on the 757s to the 20F range, more in line with the 739s. Rip out the lavs and galley between F and Y and I'm sure some MBA has already figured out how many more Y seats you can squeeze in front of doors 2L/R.
No one paid any real notice to the increased first class cabin when it was rolled out the first time. NW didn't even mention it.
Then there is US running 8 or 14 seats...but no extra legroom economy seats.
And the original Continental 757-300...with only 12 seats and the massive coach cabin.