Jul 14, 2013, 4:18 am
Last edit by: Zorak
Last updated: 03/7/2018
Delta Air Lines Boeing 747-400 Fleet Status/Information
Of 16 frames: 0 Active, 1 Preserved, 15 Retired/Stored,
Registration / Ship# (Delivery Month/Yr): Status/other information
N661US / 6301 (12/89): Preserved at the Delta Flight Museum. Was the first 744 ever built. Last revenue flight was HNL-ATL arriving on the morning of 09/09/15. Arrived at the Delta Flight Museum 04/30/2016 and was renovated to be a permanent exhibit. To learn more about the project visit this website. (DL museum website is here)
N662US / 6302 (03/89): Retired, flew to MZJ on 10/15/17. Was the first 744 (in 2012) to be renovated into the 376 pax configuration after the DL/NW merger.
N663US / 6303 (01/89): SCRAPPED, flew to MZJ on 11/05/15.
N664US / 6304 (04/89): SCRAPPED, en-route (DTW-ICN) over China on 06/17/15, was severely damaged by hail. Temporary repairs to make it air-worthy were made. It flew directly from ICN to MZJ on 07/10/15.
N665US / 6305 (09/89): SCRAPPED, flew to MZJ 12/01/16. Was the first 744 (in 2008) to be re-painted in the Delta livery after the DL/NW merger.
N666US / 6306 (08/89): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/26/17. Was the last 744 (in 2017) to perform a revenue passenger flight (12/19/2017 DL158 ICN-DTW).
N667US / 6307 (07/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 11/18/17.
N668US / 6308 (07/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/06/17.
N669US / 6309 (08/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/23/17.
N670US / 6310 (08/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/26/17.
N671US / 6311 (03/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 09/30/14. Due to 6304's damage, it was pulled from storage on 06/28/15 and re-entered revenue service. Was flown back to MZJ and re-retired on 10/31/15.
N672US / 6312 (07/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/01/14.
N673US / 6313 (08/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/31/16.
N674US / 6314 (10/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 01/03/18. Was the last 744 in the fleet to retire (in 2018).
N675NW / 6315 (03/02): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/25/15.
N676NW / 6316 (04/02): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/01/14.
Fleet Notes:
Final scheduled flight: DL158 ICN-DTW 12/19/17 (N666US).
Delta Air Lines Boeing 747-400 Fleet Status/Information
Of 16 frames: 0 Active, 1 Preserved, 15 Retired/Stored,
Registration / Ship# (Delivery Month/Yr): Status/other information
N661US / 6301 (12/89): Preserved at the Delta Flight Museum. Was the first 744 ever built. Last revenue flight was HNL-ATL arriving on the morning of 09/09/15. Arrived at the Delta Flight Museum 04/30/2016 and was renovated to be a permanent exhibit. To learn more about the project visit this website. (DL museum website is here)
N662US / 6302 (03/89): Retired, flew to MZJ on 10/15/17. Was the first 744 (in 2012) to be renovated into the 376 pax configuration after the DL/NW merger.
N663US / 6303 (01/89): SCRAPPED, flew to MZJ on 11/05/15.
N664US / 6304 (04/89): SCRAPPED, en-route (DTW-ICN) over China on 06/17/15, was severely damaged by hail. Temporary repairs to make it air-worthy were made. It flew directly from ICN to MZJ on 07/10/15.
N665US / 6305 (09/89): SCRAPPED, flew to MZJ 12/01/16. Was the first 744 (in 2008) to be re-painted in the Delta livery after the DL/NW merger.
N666US / 6306 (08/89): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/26/17. Was the last 744 (in 2017) to perform a revenue passenger flight (12/19/2017 DL158 ICN-DTW).
N667US / 6307 (07/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 11/18/17.
N668US / 6308 (07/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/06/17.
N669US / 6309 (08/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/23/17.
N670US / 6310 (08/90): Retired, flew to MZJ 12/26/17.
N671US / 6311 (03/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 09/30/14. Due to 6304's damage, it was pulled from storage on 06/28/15 and re-entered revenue service. Was flown back to MZJ and re-retired on 10/31/15.
N672US / 6312 (07/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/01/14.
N673US / 6313 (08/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/31/16.
N674US / 6314 (10/99): Retired, flew to MZJ 01/03/18. Was the last 744 in the fleet to retire (in 2018).
N675NW / 6315 (03/02): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/25/15.
N676NW / 6316 (04/02): Retired, flew to MZJ 10/01/14.
Fleet Notes:
Final scheduled flight: DL158 ICN-DTW 12/19/17 (N666US).
DL 747 fleet operation
Jul 11, 2015, 9:43 pm
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The description of the ride through the storm sounded awful. I realize that generally planes are capable of handling quite rough weather and that pax may/do scream well before there is true danger to their safety.
But I did wonder if the storm had exceeded the aircraft's performance, leading to fatalities, what sort of major international & diplomatic incident would have been precipitated by the Chinese refusal to allow deviation.
But I did wonder if the storm had exceeded the aircraft's performance, leading to fatalities, what sort of major international & diplomatic incident would have been precipitated by the Chinese refusal to allow deviation.
Jul 12, 2015, 1:21 am
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The description of the ride through the storm sounded awful. I realize that generally planes are capable of handling quite rough weather and that pax may/do scream well before there is true danger to their safety.
But I did wonder if the storm had exceeded the aircraft's performance, leading to fatalities, what sort of major international & diplomatic incident would have been precipitated by the Chinese refusal to allow deviation.
But I did wonder if the storm had exceeded the aircraft's performance, leading to fatalities, what sort of major international & diplomatic incident would have been precipitated by the Chinese refusal to allow deviation.
N671US has a 12+ hour delay at PVG right now, going to DTW.
Last edited by N639DL; Jul 12, 2015 at 1:28 am
Jul 12, 2015, 5:35 am
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Jul 12, 2015, 9:16 am
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It was my flight. Delta 73 got cancelled and Delta 72 (my flight) got changed to A330-300. My DREAM flight upper deck on a 747 got changed at the last minute.
Jul 13, 2015, 6:26 am
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Curious as to what kind of repairs they had to do in order to get the bird serviceable for the ferry to the desert. Obviously the nose radar dome, but how about all of the damage to the wing edges? I would think that had to have compromised the aircraft performance.
Jul 13, 2015, 9:18 pm
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I'm not so sure the nose would need repair under a special permit. I could be dead wrong pehaps an a/p could chime in. They ferry planes with inoperative engines across the water so anything is possible.
Jul 13, 2015, 10:40 pm
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Nope. Most government's are protected by sovereign immunity from lawsuits like this. Secondly the pilots legally are the ones that would be at fault. If China denied a course change then they should have insisted or asked to land before the storm. The pilot has a duty to refuse to fly into unsafe conditions, and is considered to be the one with the best information to decide. "ATC told me so" is not an excuse for a pilot.
Jul 14, 2015, 6:20 am
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Jul 14, 2015, 11:10 am
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Nope. Most government's are protected by sovereign immunity from lawsuits like this. Secondly the pilots legally are the ones that would be at fault. If China denied a course change then they should have insisted or asked to land before the storm. The pilot has a duty to refuse to fly into unsafe conditions, and is considered to be the one with the best information to decide. "ATC told me so" is not an excuse for a pilot.
Jul 14, 2015, 11:57 am
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Can't just decide to land on a whim. They'd still need clearance and routing which would likely not be allowed unless an emergency is declared.
Jul 14, 2015, 10:30 pm
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don't belive this incident or accident is being handled correctly by Delta. I'm sure the FAA will fully investigate and make recommendations.
on the link below you will see once a emergency is declared how ATC is required to give you what you need. This tape is AA declaring an emergency at JFK.
Last edited by nwa330; Jul 14, 2015 at 11:00 pm
Jul 25, 2015, 8:34 pm
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Looking at up coming 747 routes after December 1st, it looks like all that's left is as follows:
1) DTW - ICN 5x weekly (goes 5x in October)
2) DTW - NRT 4x weekly (goes 4x weekly in October) The WIKI showed this as being dropped altogether but its just going to 4x weekly. I changed the WIKI to reflect this. The other three days are on the A330.
1) DTW - ICN 5x weekly (goes 5x in October)
2) DTW - NRT 4x weekly (goes 4x weekly in October) The WIKI showed this as being dropped altogether but its just going to 4x weekly. I changed the WIKI to reflect this. The other three days are on the A330.
Jul 26, 2015, 2:45 pm
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I am looking forward to the 744 CDG-AMS next month and then my last chance this year is PVG-DTW in the middle of October. I just hope the Wiki dates hold for a bit.
I may head to MNL next year so I will try to grab the 744 to/from NRT unless the fare is double the other routes which I already faced this year. I only got PVG-DTW through a schedule change.
I may head to MNL next year so I will try to grab the 744 to/from NRT unless the fare is double the other routes which I already faced this year. I only got PVG-DTW through a schedule change.
Jul 29, 2015, 10:04 pm
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Any ideas with happened with ATL-HNL-ATL on 7/29? Looks like 6302 (N662US) operated 837 today and is now continuing to KIX. I couldn't find anything about 836 today- no record of it on delta.com. Tomorrow, 837 operates as a 76W (N196DN). 836 operates as a 744 (6308/N668US) and the rotation looks to be normal again. Is this due to an IRROPS situation, or was this planned? F looks full on 837 on 7/30, but still has room in Y. I would've expected a huge oversold situation had it been a last minute swap from 744 to 76W...
Jul 30, 2015, 1:51 am
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While I can't comment on this particular case, some years ago DL had the aircraft (A330 or 747) continue on ATL-HNL-KIX. That was with a later (more inconvenient) departure HNL/arrival KIX time, though.