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Old Jun 12, 2015, 7:09 pm
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This wiki covers basic info and common FAQs. For full terms and conditions, see the relevant DL web page: Same Day Travel Changes

Same-Day Confirmed

To request an SDC, you can
  • Use the Same Day Change function on the Today screen in the Delta app (recommended, but with some peculiarities -- may not show all routings, and if changing to an earlier or later flight will only show the option within 24 hours of the target flight)
  • Click the "Change" button during OLCI (after you click "Check in" on the first screen)
  • Call a phone agent (recommended if app does not work)
  • Use Delta's chat functions via the app (hit or miss)

Online SDC does not seem to present all the options available to you, especially when you are SDCing a GAP fare and there is no inventory in your fare bucket. Calling in is best. People have had success with Twitter but that may depend on how "involved" the SDC is.

You can SDC starting 24 hours before your initial departure. You can SDC to any flight leaving the same calendar day. There is a $75 fee for SDC ($50 for tickets issued before March 15th, 2017), waived for GM and higher. This fee, and the waiver, applies for each person, although for GM+ traveling with companion the companion fee is sometimes waived.


Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (main cabin)?

A. Yes (whether revenue or award ticket). Note there is sometimes inventory in a fare bucket even though it may not be offered for sale on the web site. SDC on V or N (low award) fare is not unheard of.

Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (Comfort+)?

If booked into W (not WU) there only needs to be an available seat in Comfort+ regardless of fare class.

Q. Does the same fare class need to be available (First/Business/DeltaOne)?

Q. What about SDC with RUC/GUC/mileage upgrades (that have already cleared)?

As of November 2017:

* If your original ticket is a Delta OneTM ticket, you may move to any other flight with a premium cabin seat available
* If your original ticket is a First Class ticket, you may move only to other flights with a First Class seat available; you may not move to a flight with a Delta One experience, even if seats are available.
It is unclear how this affects SDC if you are confirmed in RY/OY.

Q. I have a premium cabin fare, can I SDC to an itinerary with a single-cabin aircraft?

Written reply received from Delta, Dec. 2015:

f the aircraft does not support a First/Business/Delta One cabin you are still eligible to change to the flight as long we are still selling seats on the flight.


Q. What about Medallion complimentary upgrades?

A. These do *not* count as premium cabin fares even if you already cleared. The main cabin rules for SDC regarding fare inventory will apply, and if it goes through you will SDC into a main cabin seat (but you are eligible to be upgraded again -- make sure you appear on the upgrade list on your new itinerary)

Q. Can I change the routing/connections?

A. You cannot SDC from a connecting itinerary to a non-stop itinerary. In all other cases the answer is unclear. The SDC rules do not explicitly prohibit routing changes. However ticket fare rules usually contain a clause that additions/changes to connections must be permitted by the fare rules. These are apparently in conflict, and practically speaking it depends on the agent/supervisor you speak with. Some refuse, some allow anything reasonable.

Q. Can I change the origin/destination?

A. Technically no, but there is an unwritten rule that DMs can make co-terminal changes. (There are some unintuitive gaps in what DL considers co-terminal, e.g. DAL and DFW do not count.)

Q. How are SDC flights credited?

A. You will earn MQMs for the route you actually fly.

Q. Can I SDC onto a red-eye later the same day, that connects to a flight the following morning?

A. Yes (though the agent may need to process it manually)

Q. I have a red-eye flight or a flight leaving shortly after midnight; can I SDC to a flight the next day/day before?

A. Officially, no. In practice, some people have reported success (with no real pattern to status). Can't hurt to ask.

Q. Can I SDC on an international itinerary?

A. Officially, no. In practice, you can SDC remaining domestic flights after all international flights have been flown; if you have onward checked bags it is best to do this before you re-check them. There are non-zero reports of SDC of domestic flights before connecting to an international flight but this should not be counted on.

Q. Can I SDC an Alaska Airlines codeshare?

Originally Posted by flyerCO
You can SDC from a DL marketed, AS operated flight to a DL operated flight. You can not SDC to another AS operated flight, even if it's DL marketed.
Originally Posted by jrl767
you may be able to SDC from a DL-marketed AS-operated flight to another AS flight under AS SDC rules (request within 6 hrs of desired flight, as long as you make the request before the scheduled departure of your booked flight; $50 fee if you don't have AS status)
Same-Day Standby

"Same-day standby is only offered if same-day confirmed is not available."

"You can use the same-day standby option for travel within the United States, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands on Delta and Delta Connection flights."

SDS can be requested 24 hours before your initial departure. GM+ can SDS to any flight departing the same calendar day; others can only SDS for an earlier flight. No routing changes are permitted.

SDS costs $75 ($50 for tickets issued before 15 MAR 2017) but only if you clear the standby list (waived for GM+) SDS is now free for all passengers as of August 4th, 2021

Upgrades are not preserved -- if you already cleared the upgrade on your original flight you must still standby for the main cabin.

Q. Is it possible to get upgraded after a standby?

A. Almost always no, whether because it is explicitly forbidden or because the standby list is processed after the UG list and it is rare for any F seats to be leftover after that happens. So, maybe sometimes?

Same-Day Standby Upgrades

"The same-day standby upgrade option allows you to upgrade your flight for a small fee, provided space is available and your ticket is eligible. This option applies to specific flights and routings [...]"

This is not the same as upgrading after successfully standing by for a main cabin seat (see above).

SDSU fee chart (may be out of date):

All flights within and between the Domestic 48 States and Alaska

Code:
Traveling Y/B/M Fares S/H/Q/K/L Fares U/T/X/V Fares

0 to 500 miles $49 $119 $169

501 to 1,000 miles $79 $149 $199

1,001 to 1,500 miles $99 $209 $259

1,501 to 2,000 miles $149 $249 $319

2,001 to 3,000 miles $239 $269 $359

3,001 miles and up $329 $369 $399
All flights to and from Hawaii
Code:
Traveling Y/B/M Fares S/H/Q/K/L Fares U/T/X/V Fares

2,001 to 3,000 miles $239 $269 $359

3,001 miles and up $329 $369 $399
All eligible other flights
Code:
Traveling Y / B / M / H / Q / K Fares

0 to 500 miles $50

501 to 1,000 miles $75

1,001 to 1,500 miles $100

1,501 to 2,000 miles $150

2,001 to 3,000 miles $225

3,001 miles and up $350



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Same-day confirmed and same-day standby options

Old May 31, 2017, 12:41 pm
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If you were on a P fare and couldn't SDC into F, I would call in. There's no cutoff as far as I know and I've done it much closer than that, I've done a SDC to a flight that had already started boarding.
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Old May 31, 2017, 12:55 pm
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Originally Posted by MEMLawGuy
Have you ever had success changing from 1-stop to a 2-stop? For example, changing from MEM-ATL-SFO to MEM-ATL-JFK-SFO.
I did that two years ago.

Changed LAX-ATL-HSV to LAX-JFK-ATL-HSV.

I used the D1 checkin at LAX right after it opened.

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Old Jun 1, 2017, 7:52 am
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Seems to me I've asked this before, but, I've never dunnit yet . . . .

I'm flying next week on a Y award ticket:

Florida/ATL/PIT

I'd like to depart Florida MUCH earlier <creating a stopover> - BUT keep my late flight to PIT, so I can do something in Atlanta for a few hours.

1) Will I have any luck doing a SDC on the first segment, but leaving the second segment intact?

2) If not, will I have any luck doing a SDS on the first segment?

I've already been UGed on both flights, and of course, I'd like to try'n stay in F, but, if I hafto fly in a middle seat in Y for an hour on the first flight, I'll survive!

Any thoughts or experiences?
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Old Jun 2, 2017, 12:37 pm
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I want to SDC or SDS on the inbound domestic segment of an international round trip (originating in Germany). All the international flight segments will be completed for the inbound, but naturally not for the return. Is this allowed? Thanks!
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Old Jun 2, 2017, 7:32 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
At 24 hours from original departure call in. Nicely remind them that FC tickets don't require same fare class, just an available seat. If they still refuse, politely HUACA. Even the DM line gets this wrong regularly.
I am sure I have read here that confirmed RP tickets are considered confirmed FC tickets, but the PM desk is refusing to let me SDC unless I go on the upgrade waitlist.

I guess I will try calling again shortly, but it is discouraging. I have RP on both legs, and am not trying to change routing. Though the LAX-ATL leg I want is marketed as business, which of course it is not.

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Old Jun 2, 2017, 7:52 pm
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Originally Posted by DiverDave
I am sure I have read here that confirmed RP tickets are considered confirmed FC tickets, but the PM desk is refusing to let me SDC unless I go on the upgrade waitlist.

I guess I will try calling again shortly, but it is discouraging. I have RP on both legs, and am not trying to change routing. Though the LAX-ATL leg I want is marketed as business, which of course it is not.

David
Just keep calling. Many DL agents are trash these days, so it just takes some effort. You have the right to SDC like a revenue fare. Don't back down.
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Old Jun 2, 2017, 8:50 pm
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I think the operative phrase is "an available seat in the forward (or premium, or First Class, or Business) cabin" ... iirc someone posted a screenshot of the applicable rule from the DL website upthread in the past couple weeks
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Old Jun 2, 2017, 9:00 pm
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Originally Posted by WWads
Just keep calling. Many DL agents are trash these days, so it just takes some effort. You have the right to SDC like a revenue fare. Don't back down.
Second time was somewhat the charm. The agent and a supervisor did it, but I think basically as a favor and not because RP (now RY I guess) is a booking class that can be SDC'd based on cabin availability.

Thanks for the encouragement!

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Old Jun 2, 2017, 9:03 pm
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Originally Posted by DiverDave
Second time was somewhat the charm. The agent and a supervisor did it, but I think basically as a favor and not because RP (now RY I guess) is a booking class that can be SDC'd based on cabin availability.

Thanks for the encouragement!

David
Typical. Its not a favor, it's something that you're entitled to. The supervisor probably looked up the rules, found that he was wrong, and didn't want to admit to it. 'Favor' or "one-time exception' are often the lines used in situations like this.
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Old Jun 3, 2017, 5:38 am
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Booked tomorrow at 730am. PM status.

Just called and asked to move to a flight tonight at 618 or 755. I was told not an option would have to pay 258 to change to either. I explained I literally did this last week in a similar manner and was told there is no way I did.

In thr last 4 weeks I have done it 3 times. Am I just lucky or is the agent wrong?
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Originally Posted by dinanm3atl
Booked tomorrow at 730am. PM status.

Just called and asked to move to a flight tonight at 618 or 755. I was told not an option would have to pay 258 to change to either. I explained I literally did this last week in a similar manner and was told there is no way I did.

In thr last 4 weeks I have done it 3 times. Am I just lucky or is the agent wrong?
you got lucky. It's SAME DAY confirmed. You can call 24 hrs in advance, but your new flight must be on the same day as your original flight.
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Luck ran out I guess
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Old Jun 3, 2017, 7:43 am
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Originally Posted by C W
I want to SDC or SDS on the inbound domestic segment of an international round trip (originating in Germany). All the international flight segments will be completed for the inbound, but naturally not for the return. Is this allowed? Thanks!
NO.
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Old Jun 3, 2017, 7:45 am
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Originally Posted by DiverDave
I am sure I have read here that confirmed RP tickets are considered confirmed FC tickets, but the PM desk is refusing to let me SDC unless I go on the upgrade waitlist.

I guess I will try calling again shortly, but it is discouraging. I have RP on both legs, and am not trying to change routing. Though the LAX-ATL leg I want is marketed as business, which of course it is not.

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I suspect that RP is more likely to be treated as a FC ticket for SDC purposes if the ticket has already been reissued in FC. What was the status of your ticket?
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Old Jun 3, 2017, 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
NO.
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