SDC rules change April 16; Increased restrictions incl same fare bucket availability
Mar 28, 2013, 2:47 pm
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Mar 28, 2013, 2:48 pm
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Let me bottom line this:
Replacing SDC with SDS
Most flights most days only have Y available on DOD
More work for the GA's, less convenience for HVC
More oversales
Dumb move
Replacing SDC with SDS
Most flights most days only have Y available on DOD
More work for the GA's, less convenience for HVC
More oversales
Dumb move
Mar 28, 2013, 2:49 pm
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[QUOTE=jrl22;20498367]iirc CO's SDC policy used to have the fare bucket restriction, which pretty well offset the 24-hr window; I'm not sure whether that has carried over to UA.../QUOTE]The UA guys, especially the pmCO flyers, consider the 24 hour window compensates for the fare bucket rule (which I would prefer does not get implemented by DL).
The problem here is that the window is only same day, not 24 hours so it requires a lot of work to be done on the change precisely at midnight, which we hope is calibrated in Eastern Time. I would guess that there now may be some trouble getting through on the phone at that hour since the website almost certainly will not be brought up to date to handle these changes.
The problem here is that the window is only same day, not 24 hours so it requires a lot of work to be done on the change precisely at midnight, which we hope is calibrated in Eastern Time. I would guess that there now may be some trouble getting through on the phone at that hour since the website almost certainly will not be brought up to date to handle these changes.
Mar 28, 2013, 2:49 pm
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If the rules listed in the original post of this thread wind up being true then United is the clear winner with SDC.
There were arguments all day long about the pros/cons of UA's vs DL's SDC policy. But if DL really does go to a "same fare bucket" SDC option then UA wins hands down as they are available at the 24 hour mark while DL is only at the 3 hour mark.
-RM
There were arguments all day long about the pros/cons of UA's vs DL's SDC policy. But if DL really does go to a "same fare bucket" SDC option then UA wins hands down as they are available at the 24 hour mark while DL is only at the 3 hour mark.
-RM
Mar 28, 2013, 2:53 pm
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I like the idea of getting more vdb vouchers actually
Mar 28, 2013, 2:53 pm
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Does the SAME fare bucket have to be available, or "same or lower?"
Logically one would think that if a lower fare bucket is available, all the higher ones ought to be available. But this isn't always the case. And it looks like there are going to be more instances where XVE are available while LUT are not, based on reports in this forum and the common assumption that XVE will be limited-perk deep discount fares.
Logically one would think that if a lower fare bucket is available, all the higher ones ought to be available. But this isn't always the case. And it looks like there are going to be more instances where XVE are available while LUT are not, based on reports in this forum and the common assumption that XVE will be limited-perk deep discount fares.
Mar 28, 2013, 3:04 pm
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Man, this is going to wreck SDC. With loads way way up, at T-3 hours you are often times lucky to just have Y available.
Mar 28, 2013, 3:08 pm
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"The same-day confirmed program is subject to change and the rules in effect on the date of travel will apply, regardless of the date of ticket purchase."
Mar 28, 2013, 3:11 pm
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Pretty shrewd move.....at least no one's talking about SkyMiles expiring at death now.
Mar 28, 2013, 3:18 pm
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Mar 28, 2013, 3:23 pm
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What about award tickets?
This seems to be more like United's policies ...
This seems to be more like United's policies ...
Mar 28, 2013, 3:23 pm
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Does the SAME fare bucket have to be available, or "same or lower?"
Logically one would think that if a lower fare bucket is available, all the higher ones ought to be available. But this isn't always the case. And it looks like there are going to be more instances where XVE are available while LUT are not, based on reports in this forum and the common assumption that XVE will be limited-perk deep discount fares.
Logically one would think that if a lower fare bucket is available, all the higher ones ought to be available. But this isn't always the case. And it looks like there are going to be more instances where XVE are available while LUT are not, based on reports in this forum and the common assumption that XVE will be limited-perk deep discount fares.
Mar 28, 2013, 3:24 pm
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Confirmed is a big deal. I have no desire to louse around the gate area if avoidable.
Mar 28, 2013, 3:26 pm
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This means no more A fare LAX-SLC-JFK trick to get onto nonstop LAX-JFK in B/E.