adamj023

I remember Pan Am as well as TWA and many other airlines which are not around anymore. The TWA headhouse remains behind the JetBlue terminal.

In this case, the condition of T3 is so bad and the space is needed for the taxiway. If there is anything worthwhile preserving, they can move it to another location but alas that doesn't seem likely.

itsaboutthejourney

Thanks to DLCorpGalNYC for all the posts in this thread! You don't seem to be on the tight leash your ATL colleagues are on when it comes to providing information and follow-up ^^

bennos

+1 to an adieu DO.

monitor

An Adieu to T3 DO is something that I would try to attend. ^

amolkold

T3 A-DO?

I am down for a T4 Sky Deck opening DO

DLCorpGalNYC, I hope you'll let us know when an exact date is known for the T4 Sky Deck, as I'd love to be there on Day 1.

remyontheroad

+1 more ^

This is a great idea.

Count me among those who have loved to hate T3 over the years and I think it would be fantastic to get an opportunity to say goodbye.

menton1

That's what I thought. The only problem is the big distance between T4 and T2. AirTrain not that convenient, and out of secure area. I guess shuttle buses in the secure area will proliferate...Not ideal.

Etched in my brain is walking down that narrow curved sidewalk in the outside weather wheeling luggage, squeezing past the other pedestrian traffic. Aaargh. Anyone have a photo of the original, super high-tech (at the time) Pan Am Terminal when it opened?

BizJet

I get people complaining about the buses, but I don't think they're such a big deal.

The big problem is that currently the buses don't run very frequently. I think they're officially every 15 minutes, which means if someone just misses a bus, it'll take them close to 30 minutes to get to another terminal. That can be the difference between making and missing a flight.

If the buses run near-continuously, then I think they're a perfectly adequate solution for the medium-term (I'm guessing "phase III" of a T4 expansion will start around 2015 and run through 2017-2018, with DL out of the T2 by the end of the decade latest).

- As a previous poster suggested, a near-continuous bus loop isn't so different than taking the Plane Train in Atlanta.

- At Heathrow, people take buses to connect between terminals.

- At Philadelphia, US Airways has run a fairly smooth bus operation between its mainline terminals (A/B/C) and its regional terminal (F) for well over a decade.

- At Newark, buses are used for connections between United's Terminal C and its regional flights at Terminal A. Same at San Francisco, where some flights now go out of Terminal A.

Fact is, buses are a fact of life in this business. They're perfectly fine if run well.

menton1

If your a bit down today and want a good laugh, read this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/ar...#axzz2KhC19O9W

DLCorpGal

Sorry all, I was out of the office most of yesterday afternoon and I missed a lot of chatter. Let me try to address some of the most commonly asked questions.

- T3 will literally close overnight when T4 opens. I don't have an exact date yet, but it will be late May prior to Memorial Day weekend. When we have an exact date, I will let you know.
- Once closed, T3 will be abated and then torn down. That space will be used for aircraft parking.
- Additionally, after T3 is closed and as we remove it, it will allow for a much more direct route for the T2-T4 shuttle bus. This will drastically cut down the time you spend on the bus as we won't have to deal with aircraft movement, etc.
- The Sky Deck will open the same day as the rest of T4 - so late May.

TrojanTraveler

Thanks again DLCorpGalNYC.

I frequently take the Airtain to JFK, as coming from the city the traffic on the highways are becoming more unreliable than ever. I usually go to T2, but if the weather is bad, I'll take the covered walk to T3 (although I believe this was damaged). Now that T3 is being torn down, is there any plan to have, at a minimum, some sort of covered walkway from the T2 Airtrain station to T2? Having to take the Airtrain to T4 to avoid the weather, then clear security there and get on a bus to T2, seems quite a bit of a hassle.

I could understand not doing anything if DL plans on vacating T2 soon, but that does not appear to be the case.

DLCorpGal

This is a great question. I'm going to have to ask someone at PANYNJ as they manage all of the Airtrain stations, walkways etc. Let me see if I can dig up an answer and get back to you.

menton1

Is there a schematic drawing of what the T4/T2 configuration will look like this coming summer? Or a map drawing? Thanks.

monitor

More than a hassle, a major inconvenience.

For many of us, the only place to chack-in to DL at JFK has been T2. T3 has long been out of that equation.

However, the hope is that with having control over so many of the gates at that side of T4, DL will be able to do something about easing access for Pre-check and premium pax.

amejr999

Picture this:

http://filecache.drivetheweb.com/mr4...ior-future.jpg

But without the extension to T4 Concourse A (on the right) and the walkway between T2 and T4.