MQM Valuation Based on Fare Paid Now Showing on Delta.com
Sep 5, 2012, 2:04 pm
#226
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Sep 5, 2012, 2:04 pm
#227
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Honesty, Integrity, & Mutual Respect.
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Honesty, Integrity, & Mutual Respect.
Honesty, integrity, and mutual respect my @$$.
Sep 5, 2012, 2:09 pm
#228
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I am disappointed. I have flown TLV-USA twice so far this year in Biz and have a third trip booked for December. The three, together, will give me Platinum status.
If the 25% MQMs went into effect for Peasant Fares, I would probably be the only Plat left who is based in Israel.
I am really looking forward to being a Plat again (as I was a few years ago). Look at all the extra benefits I will get:
# Sky Priority -- oops, I already get that as Gold.
#100% Sky Miles bonus (just like I get at Gold).
#Free entry to SkyClubs on days I fly internationally (well, not only do I get that as Gold but I get it anyhow because I fly Biz Elite).
# The possibility of being upgraded on my domestic segments (except that they are usually in FC anyhow).
Well, at least I will get 4 SWUs (unless they are enhanced out of the program).
If the 25% MQMs went into effect for Peasant Fares, I would probably be the only Plat left who is based in Israel.
I am really looking forward to being a Plat again (as I was a few years ago). Look at all the extra benefits I will get:
# Sky Priority -- oops, I already get that as Gold.
#100% Sky Miles bonus (just like I get at Gold).
#Free entry to SkyClubs on days I fly internationally (well, not only do I get that as Gold but I get it anyhow because I fly Biz Elite).
# The possibility of being upgraded on my domestic segments (except that they are usually in FC anyhow).
Well, at least I will get 4 SWUs (unless they are enhanced out of the program).
Sep 5, 2012, 2:17 pm
#229
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I would imagine the overwhelming majority of Kettle flyers aren't Amex holders. I don't think it has one thing to do with another. Kettles will buy the low fares and pay to talk to someone, pay to sit in an aisle, pay to check their bag, pay to board early, pay, pay, pay. Right now many silvers and golds will pay LUT fares which make the company very little money, and absorb all the benefits set aside for those that are contributing to the real revenue line.
We can go in circles for days about this. WN is already there - it is strictly revenue-based. They are all going there, my friend. It is just a matter of time.
We can go in circles for days about this. WN is already there - it is strictly revenue-based. They are all going there, my friend. It is just a matter of time.
Sep 5, 2012, 2:21 pm
#230
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I'm booking JFK to SLP and getting a total of 555 MQMs at $944.00. If that's the case, I can book a more convenient trip for me on another airline at half the price. This is not good news for me and in the long term, for Delta.
Sep 5, 2012, 2:24 pm
#231
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Silver will still NOT mean anything as long as they sell the benefits with the DL AmEx credit card holders. Why go through all the segments of flying to be a silver if $95 annually can give you almost everything?
Sep 5, 2012, 2:25 pm
#232
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Sep 5, 2012, 2:33 pm
#234
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If this is indeed the future, I will have to put the phone numbers for B6 and WN on my cell phone. For a few extra bucks, I can always buy early boarding on both carriers.
This will sure put more value to the Reserve Card bonus MQMs and the DL Platinum card bonus MQMs. Unless those bonus MQMs go down the drain as well...
But so far, it is an IT glitch. DL would never roll out the program without proper notice. Would they?
This will sure put more value to the Reserve Card bonus MQMs and the DL Platinum card bonus MQMs. Unless those bonus MQMs go down the drain as well...
But so far, it is an IT glitch. DL would never roll out the program without proper notice. Would they?
Sep 5, 2012, 2:34 pm
#235
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Originally Posted by RobertS975:19259934
If this is indeed the future, I will have to put the phone numbers for B6 and WN on my cell phone. For a few extra bucks, I can always buy early boarding on both carriers.
This will sure put more value to the Reserve Card bonus MQMs and the DL Platinum card bonus MQMs. Unless those bonus MQMs go down the drain as well...
But so far, it is an IT glitch. DL would never roll out the program without proper notice. Would they?
This will sure put more value to the Reserve Card bonus MQMs and the DL Platinum card bonus MQMs. Unless those bonus MQMs go down the drain as well...
But so far, it is an IT glitch. DL would never roll out the program without proper notice. Would they?
Sep 5, 2012, 2:37 pm
#236
Join Date: Nov 1999
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Perhaps someone already pointed this out, but AA is already doing this -- no 500 minimum miles, elite mileage accrual based upon fare class, etc. This was one of the MANY reasons why I switched from AA to DL as my principal carrier a couple years ago. Its the future for all of the carriers I suspect.
While non-elites on AA do not earn 500 miles minimum per segment, all AA elites earn a minimum 500 RDM and 500 EQM per segment.
I think you are confusing points which AA bases by fare class and miles which are the same for any fare class. Elite status can be earned by EQM, EQP or EQS on AA.
Greg
Sep 5, 2012, 2:46 pm
#238
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You referred to diamond status only being given to "elite" spenders, and then referred to spending $25k - $30k a year to get such status. Some people earn close to $30k a year. Some people spend $30k on a single private flight. It has been abundantly clear for a while now that you are much closer to the former. Spending your entire day on a forum acting like someone you are not won't help you lose your virginity... I mean, meet a girl.
Sep 5, 2012, 2:47 pm
#239
Join Date: Nov 2010
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This change in the earnings side of the SkyPesos program is FAR worse than last year's change to the WN Rapid Rewards program, and Rapid Rewards points are actually EASY to redeem!
Sep 5, 2012, 2:49 pm
#240
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 3,458
Is there a Cliff notes version for those of us who don't want to read 16 pages of hysteria.
Yes, a change is coming.
But it appears that this is not it?
Is that the basic version?
I figured next year I had to move airlines, but luckily SW is moving fast into Atlanta so I can just move to them. Means no more free international flights but I have booked all my current miles for next year...
SO when the change comes, can the mods do a Stickey that's LOCKED and just has the details? Then we can have 10,000 threads of 10,000 lines of hysteria.
(But in the mean time could some of you cancel your flights into and out of SNA next week. I am stuck in a middle seat! If you take your toys and go home maybe a better seat will open
)
Yes, a change is coming.
But it appears that this is not it?
Is that the basic version?
I figured next year I had to move airlines, but luckily SW is moving fast into Atlanta so I can just move to them. Means no more free international flights but I have booked all my current miles for next year...
SO when the change comes, can the mods do a Stickey that's LOCKED and just has the details? Then we can have 10,000 threads of 10,000 lines of hysteria.
(But in the mean time could some of you cancel your flights into and out of SNA next week. I am stuck in a middle seat! If you take your toys and go home maybe a better seat will open
)