Delta's CRJs are KILLING me!
Mar 13, 2012, 9:32 pm
#61
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Mar 13, 2012, 9:47 pm
#62
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See, I don't get this. Woudn't everyone be better off if they ALL reclined? If the seat is that bad with the seat in front reclined, isn't the problem with the airline, rather than with the other passenger?
Avoiding spreading obnoxious sounds is one thing, more up to each passenger/hotel guest. Avoiding use of space one has (presumably) paid for is another. Let the airlines limit the ability of the seats to recline, then, perhaps in Economy Class Minus or something.
Avoiding spreading obnoxious sounds is one thing, more up to each passenger/hotel guest. Avoiding use of space one has (presumably) paid for is another. Let the airlines limit the ability of the seats to recline, then, perhaps in Economy Class Minus or something.
Mar 14, 2012, 6:15 am
#64
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Allegiant is an entirely different business model. They fly primarily to vacation destinations, and yes, they do serve some small underserved cities. Comparing them to a mainline airline, however, is more apples to oranges.
Mar 14, 2012, 7:09 am
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Mar 14, 2012, 7:24 am
#67
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Seats!
It is all about the seats in both the Embraers and the CRJs. They are terrible. (Embraer is Portuguese for "no seat padding".) When the CRJs are new the seats are at least tolerable. But once they have been in service awhile all the padding is crushed.
The best thing about Lufthansa is their seats. If Delta could get those on the Barbie jets it would help a lot.
The best thing about Lufthansa is their seats. If Delta could get those on the Barbie jets it would help a lot.
Mar 14, 2012, 7:45 am
#68
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Mar 14, 2012, 7:51 am
#69
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On quite a few CRJ-200s I've flown with DL, particularly the Mesaba and ASA ones, there are seats scattered throughout the cabin that randomly don't recline. Not the pre-exit row seats, but row 10, row 4, row 2 for example will randomly be locked upright. It's more the mechanical state of these birds and the already-cramped feeling of them that keep me from reclining into the person behind me, because I don't know if they're one of the lucky winners who have a broken seat.
Mar 14, 2012, 9:25 am
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Mar 14, 2012, 9:35 am
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Yes, I actually like the 175's, front OR back, much better than any CRJ. Maybe it's an illusion, but the cabin seems wider and not as cramped. Only flew on them a few times into MOT a year or two ago, but I remember being pleasantly surprised, comapred to other RJ's. FC has 2/1 seating, like the other Regionals, but, it just seems bigger somehow.
Mar 14, 2012, 1:06 pm
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Mar 14, 2012, 1:50 pm
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Yes, I actually like the 175's, front OR back, much better than any CRJ. Maybe it's an illusion, but the cabin seems wider and not as cramped. Only flew on them a few times into MOT a year or two ago, but I remember being pleasantly surprised, comapred to other RJ's. FC has 2/1 seating, like the other Regionals, but, it just seems bigger somehow.
Mar 14, 2012, 7:19 pm
#75
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<<<<<Yes, I actually like the 175's, front OR back, much better than any CRJ. Maybe it's an illusion...
No, it is not an illusion. The CRJ's 100 & 200 are genuinely, universally, miserably uncomfortable (unless you have a seat in row 1 with nobody next to you, so you can stretch out at an angle). Every other small aircraft (145's, 175's, CRJ-700's & 900's - - even Saab turboprops) are vastly more comfortable. The CRJ 100s & 200s are miniature torture chambers. The other small aircraft are perfectly acceptable.
No, it is not an illusion. The CRJ's 100 & 200 are genuinely, universally, miserably uncomfortable (unless you have a seat in row 1 with nobody next to you, so you can stretch out at an angle). Every other small aircraft (145's, 175's, CRJ-700's & 900's - - even Saab turboprops) are vastly more comfortable. The CRJ 100s & 200s are miniature torture chambers. The other small aircraft are perfectly acceptable.