Domestic 767 F Class
Nov 26, 2011, 9:34 pm
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Domestic 767 F Class
Does anyone else find domestic F in 767 to suck? The seats are quite literally about 3in narrower than on other aircraft and the general feel of the cabin in the 2-2-2 config makes it feel very cramped. The width of the seat is only 0.5in wider than in coach and even though there is a little more legroom, it is nearly impossible to notice or enjoy it. Why does DL make such a terrible 767 F hard product?
Nov 26, 2011, 9:43 pm
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Does anyone else find domestic F in 767 to suck? The seats are quite literally about 3in narrower than on other aircraft and the general feel of the cabin in the 2-2-2 config makes it feel very cramped. The width of the seat is only 0.5in wider than in coach and even though there is a little more legroom, it is nearly impossible to notice or enjoy it. Why does DL make such a terrible 767 F hard product?
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Nov 27, 2011, 2:17 am
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You're not alone. I find the whole domestic 763 set-up to be rather cramped, especially since they've added the extra row of F. I go out of my way to choose flights operated by the 757 instead. (or, better yet, the 777 on ATL-LAX)
Nov 27, 2011, 6:11 am
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Does anyone else find domestic F in 767 to suck? The seats are quite literally about 3in narrower than on other aircraft and the general feel of the cabin in the 2-2-2 config makes it feel very cramped. The width of the seat is only 0.5in wider than in coach and even though there is a little more legroom, it is nearly impossible to notice or enjoy it. Why does DL make such a terrible 767 F hard product?
DL has learned that most of its "elites" have their egos satisfied with an F (V) on their boarding pass and not an actual F class product.
Nov 27, 2011, 9:28 am
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Considering that only 14% of those domestic F seats are sold while the rest are given away as upgrades, I wouldn't expect any of that to change anytime soon.
DL has learned that most of its "elites" have their egos satisfied with an F (V) on their boarding pass and not an actual F class product.
DL has learned that most of its "elites" have their egos satisfied with an F (V) on their boarding pass and not an actual F class product.
Nov 27, 2011, 12:48 pm
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With all the criticism that the domestic 763 F cabin gets, it has basically become the new 764ER domestic F, which got similar criticism during the time that layout existed (although DL's 764ER domestic F wasn't any inferior to, say, United's domestic 763ER F, yet UA's 763ER domestic F didn't get anywhere near as much criticism).
Nov 27, 2011, 4:53 pm
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Considering that only 14% of those domestic F seats are sold while the rest are given away as upgrades, I wouldn't expect any of that to change anytime soon.
DL has learned that most of its "elites" have their egos satisfied with an F (V) on their boarding pass and not an actual F class product.
DL has learned that most of its "elites" have their egos satisfied with an F (V) on their boarding pass and not an actual F class product.
Nov 27, 2011, 5:16 pm
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The domestic 767s look old and tired with generally dirty cabins. The AVOD screens are tiny and look very dated. Overhead bins are tiny also. Bulkhead rows have tight legroom. Overall, a bad experience but BE on the non reconfigured 767-300s is a truly horrid experience.
Nov 27, 2011, 6:33 pm
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Actually, I belive the new F seats on the domestic 763s have them. I know the new MD-88/MD-90 F seats do.
As for wingeds headrests in Y, not happening, since they are intended by DL to be a feature exclusive to the Y cabins on international aircraft. All international aircraft (including the 744s and 763ERs) should have them when DL completes all of there refurbishments.
As for wingeds headrests in Y, not happening, since they are intended by DL to be a feature exclusive to the Y cabins on international aircraft. All international aircraft (including the 744s and 763ERs) should have them when DL completes all of there refurbishments.
Nov 27, 2011, 6:45 pm
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Actually, I belive the new F seats on the domestic 763s have them. I know the new MD-88/MD-90 F seats do.
As for wingeds headrests in Y, not happening, since they are intended by DL to be a feature exclusive to the Y cabins on international aircraft. All international aircraft (including the 744s and 763ERs) should have them when DL completes all of there refurbishments.
As for wingeds headrests in Y, not happening, since they are intended by DL to be a feature exclusive to the Y cabins on international aircraft. All international aircraft (including the 744s and 763ERs) should have them when DL completes all of there refurbishments.
Nov 27, 2011, 6:46 pm
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Does anyone else find domestic F in 767 to suck? The seats are quite literally about 3in narrower than on other aircraft and the general feel of the cabin in the 2-2-2 config makes it feel very cramped. The width of the seat is only 0.5in wider than in coach and even though there is a little more legroom, it is nearly impossible to notice or enjoy it. Why does DL make such a terrible 767 F hard product?
The only thing worse would be flying it at lunch time, forgetting to buy something in the terminal and having to endure Michelle's roast beef sandwich.
Nov 27, 2011, 7:15 pm
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So E175s must be considered to be an international aircraft and thus have winged headrests in F and Y? I think it is more of a trait to newer interiors but I could be wrong. Most of the DL domestic fleet has pretty old interiors and the newer ones all seem to have the winged headrests.
Nov 28, 2011, 4:02 pm
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Considering that only 14% of those domestic F seats are sold while the rest are given away as upgrades, I wouldn't expect any of that to change anytime soon.
DL has learned that most of its "elites" have their egos satisfied with an F (V) on their boarding pass and not an actual F class product.
DL has learned that most of its "elites" have their egos satisfied with an F (V) on their boarding pass and not an actual F class product.
). The domestic F cabin on 767's always has been awful. Back in my first era of DL travel in the late 80's-early 90's, travelling paid F, I tried always to book away from the 767 for precisely this reason.By the logic of this post, a five across F cabin on 737/757's would satisfy the elites ("hey, there's an F on the boarding pass, who cares if the seat width is really cruddy?").