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Old Nov 4, 11, 8:25 pm   #1
 
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DL taking over SEA-CDG in March

As reported on a.net

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/5297982/

Should make some AS MVPs happy.
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Old Nov 4, 11, 8:42 pm   #2
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this is great news. I can now plan some outrageous mileage runs to Europe through the west coast on DL metal!
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Old Nov 4, 11, 9:01 pm   #3
 
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I'm all for continued DL expansion of operations at SEA.

Although, with that said, this is another route where it is now harder to use a SWU.
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Old Nov 4, 11, 9:07 pm   #4
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I'm all for continued DL expansion of operations at SEA.

Although, with that said, this is another route where it is now harder to use a SWU.
well, considering DL has never flown sea to cdg on their own metal, i dont see how you can validate your statement.
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Old Nov 4, 11, 9:21 pm   #5
 
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well, considering DL has never flown sea to cdg on their own metal, i dont see how you can validate your statement.
It is much easier to use DL SWUs on AF than on DL. Not sure I understand your statement.
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Old Nov 4, 11, 9:23 pm   #6
 
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well, considering DL has never flown sea to cdg on their own metal, i dont see how you can validate your statement.
Um, AF SWU upgrades?
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Old Nov 4, 11, 11:56 pm   #7
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Interesting... Although I've heard horror stories about connecting in CDG. What type of A/C is DL running?
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Old Nov 5, 11, 1:21 am   #8
 
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It is much easier to use DL SWUs on AF than on DL. Not sure I understand your statement.
I'm not sure easier is the right word. Perhaps cheaper, but DL SWUs are incredibly easy to use - awesome upgrade availability is precisely why I stay with DL.

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Interesting... Although I've heard horror stories about connecting in CDG. What type of A/C is DL running?
Connecting in CDG is not nearly as bad as the horror stories make it out to be. They have actually made a lot of improvements and the experience (at least for elites and premium cabin passengers) is not that bad. The priority security lines work well, the lounges are numerous and uncrowded, and the duty free shops are good. The dining options are abysmal, but the same is true of AMS and doubly true of FRA. CDG is not as nice as LHR T5, and still a step behind AMS (though AMS slips in my estimation every time I fly through there), but it is better than given credit for.
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Old Nov 5, 11, 3:39 am   #9
 
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Despite the perceived increased DL service to Europe from SEA, it's still only replacing AF. We may then see it disappear later or see less frequency to either CDG and/or AMS.

I'm more afraid DL might discontinue its 2nd seasonal (Summer) AMS flight.

Sad part of it was that AF was scheduled to change its airframe to 343...... Well seeing Delta doesn't have 343, so much for that....

Jiburi

PS- I still don't see it in the schedules for summer 2012 however....

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Old Nov 5, 11, 8:14 am   #10
 
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I'm not sure easier is the right word. Perhaps cheaper, but DL SWUs are incredibly easy to use - awesome upgrade availability is precisely why I stay with DL.
I can't believe you said that with a straight face.
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Old Nov 5, 11, 8:20 am   #11
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I can't believe you said that with a straight face.
W --> O on AF is actually not bad at all. YBM --> Z at the airport is working as well. Of course MBYW is an issue but from there I have been rather lucky getting the UG
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W --> O on AF is actually not bad at all. YBM --> Z at the airport is working as well. Of course MBYW is an issue but from there I have been rather lucky getting the UG
I would never call using a SWU on Delta "easy".

Easy is booking a fare, and upgrading if available. Not easy is making sure I book a specific fare class, but only dropping that chunk of change instead of buying any fare class if upgrade space is available, because who knows what will happen.

Seems the best for Delta, though, and they need to stay afloat somehow.
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Old Nov 5, 11, 1:51 pm   #13
 
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Interesting... Although I've heard horror stories about connecting in CDG. What type of A/C is DL running?
Rumor is a reconfigured 767

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Despite the perceived increased DL service to Europe from SEA, it's still only replacing AF. We may then see it disappear later or see less frequency to either CDG and/or AMS.

I'm more afraid DL might discontinue its 2nd seasonal (Summer) AMS flight.

Sad part of it was that AF was scheduled to change its airframe to 343...... Well seeing Delta doesn't have 343, so much for that....

Jiburi

PS- I still don't see it in the schedules for summer 2012 however....
The new EK DXB-SEA is more likely to cause the second AMS frequency to be dropped than this change. It'll actually be a decrease in SEA-CDG capacity.
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Old Nov 5, 11, 1:53 pm   #14
 
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As a persistent economy class flyer, this is bad news for me. With more comfortable seats, better food, avod and free alcohol AF economy is much better than DL.
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Old Nov 5, 11, 1:57 pm   #15
 
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I'm all for continued DL expansion of operations at SEA.

Although, with that said, this is another route where it is now harder to use a SWU.
Exactly right.

As someone who took SEA-CDG-SEA roughly quarterly, I am very disappointed to see this go to DL metal. It was an indeed an easy SWU upgrade from a Premium Economy fare. And often, Prem Eco was the cheapest econ fare, which was great for those with tight corporate travel policies.

This situation made AF on SEA-CDG my airline of choice TATL.

As a DL DM in SEA, I am very sorry to see this change. I would have been far happier to see AMS convert to KL metal.

M fares on DL metal are awful. This will definitely affect my buying habits for TATL once it is effective.
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