How important is the Cruise Insurance? [discussion and resources]
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Also... "you should not buy it from the cruise line or tour company you are dealing with. If they should go bankrupt, you have lost your insurance. This might sound unlikely, but we did have 21 companies declare bankruptcy the same day so it does happen. Use a third-party company." on Cruiseable
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Was about to leave to Europe for an Amawaterways cruise.
No insurance.
My father-in-law died this morning.
We must cancel. No refund or credit being offered. Booked through Amex Centurion.
Any advice from the sages here?
No insurance.
My father-in-law died this morning.
We must cancel. No refund or credit being offered. Booked through Amex Centurion.
Any advice from the sages here?
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With respect to your cruise fee loss, you unfortunately self-insured. Have you checked with AMEX about any coverage?
If makes you feel any better about your financial loss, there are many cruisers who self-insure, assuming that those expensive trip insurance fees even out a rare loss that occurs.
Please let us know if AMEX helps.
Edit to add:
Depends if you are based in Europe: Yes!
https://www.americanexpress.com/laci...e_Benefits.pdf
or the USA: No!
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/c...fits/policies/
At least in the case of the Platinum card
Last edited by 747FC; Jul 8, 2017 at 2:03 pm Reason: Add info
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I have never purchase trip interruption insurance. Since I retired and went on Medicare, I am apt to consider buying insurance that includes medical, as Medicare does not cover one in a foreign country.
Recently, we went to Africa on safari which included three countries and remote locations. Getting medical of any sort would have been hard, quality care nearly impossible (the real risk, and uninsurable). We bought insurance for medical and for trip interruption (comprehensive policy had full coverage medical and transport). The medical insurance adds the dimension of providing coordination of resolving your issues (booking, reservations, coordinating with hospitals and specialty transportation). they have done it before, I have not.
We are going on a cruise soon to the Arctic (northern Europe). Getting good medical care will be easier, and closer and the ship is my transport. I will take the medical cost risk. Modest medical assistance is provided on board, and the ship will assist in coordinating relocation, if necessary.
Most countries will treat you free in an emergency and get you stabilized. Knowing the care quality available in nearby countries is a key in my mind. Medical care outside the USA is usually considerably cheaper.
Recently, we went to Africa on safari which included three countries and remote locations. Getting medical of any sort would have been hard, quality care nearly impossible (the real risk, and uninsurable). We bought insurance for medical and for trip interruption (comprehensive policy had full coverage medical and transport). The medical insurance adds the dimension of providing coordination of resolving your issues (booking, reservations, coordinating with hospitals and specialty transportation). they have done it before, I have not.
We are going on a cruise soon to the Arctic (northern Europe). Getting good medical care will be easier, and closer and the ship is my transport. I will take the medical cost risk. Modest medical assistance is provided on board, and the ship will assist in coordinating relocation, if necessary.
Most countries will treat you free in an emergency and get you stabilized. Knowing the care quality available in nearby countries is a key in my mind. Medical care outside the USA is usually considerably cheaper.
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You can also buy annual travel medical policies from companies such as Amex. They are secondary coverage, of course. (You have to be some distance away from your home, e.g., something like 100 or 150 miles, for them to be in force.) The annual fee is modest, but goes up a bit as you hit age 65 and above.
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I have never purchase trip interruption insurance. Since I retired and went on Medicare, I am apt to consider buying insurance that includes medical, as Medicare does not cover one in a foreign country.
Recently, we went to Africa on safari which included three countries and remote locations. Getting medical of any sort would have been hard, quality care nearly impossible (the real risk, and uninsurable). We bought insurance for medical and for trip interruption (comprehensive policy had full coverage medical and transport). The medical insurance adds the dimension of providing coordination of resolving your issues (booking, reservations, coordinating with hospitals and specialty transportation). they have done it before, I have not.
We are going on a cruise soon to the Arctic (northern Europe). Getting good medical care will be easier, and closer and the ship is my transport. I will take the medical cost risk. Modest medical assistance is provided on board, and the ship will assist in coordinating relocation, if necessary.
Most countries will treat you free in an emergency and get you stabilized. Knowing the care quality available in nearby countries is a key in my mind. Medical care outside the USA is usually considerably cheaper.
Recently, we went to Africa on safari which included three countries and remote locations. Getting medical of any sort would have been hard, quality care nearly impossible (the real risk, and uninsurable). We bought insurance for medical and for trip interruption (comprehensive policy had full coverage medical and transport). The medical insurance adds the dimension of providing coordination of resolving your issues (booking, reservations, coordinating with hospitals and specialty transportation). they have done it before, I have not.
We are going on a cruise soon to the Arctic (northern Europe). Getting good medical care will be easier, and closer and the ship is my transport. I will take the medical cost risk. Modest medical assistance is provided on board, and the ship will assist in coordinating relocation, if necessary.
Most countries will treat you free in an emergency and get you stabilized. Knowing the care quality available in nearby countries is a key in my mind. Medical care outside the USA is usually considerably cheaper.
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I believe that is only for emergency care, and "urgently needed" services, not routine care. Of course, emergency/urgent care is mostly what we are talking about in this thread, since it's about cruising/travelling.
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We always buy a medical policy when leaving the country. My employer provided BCBS policy does not cover us when outside the US. It's not a huge expense, maybe $100 a week, but covers the stuff that would be cost prohibitive otherwise. They also throw in a few things you might not think of like helping you find doctors that speak English.
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Condolences for your loss. I don't expect that it will work but you might try a polite appeal letter to Ama not asking for a refund, but perhaps for a credit towards a future cruise.
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We always buy a medical policy when leaving the country. My employer provided BCBS policy does not cover us when outside the US. It's not a huge expense, maybe $100 a week, but covers the stuff that would be cost prohibitive otherwise. They also throw in a few things you might not think of like helping you find doctors that speak English.
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You are correct, but it also includes hospital stays. I use the Sapphire Reserve for the $2500 in medical and dental supplemental insurance for minor medical issues that do not require emergency care.
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I assume you mean hospital stays resulting from an emergency. So that would still fall under the category of emergency/urgent care.
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Here's an example of why travel insurance of some kind is important (or at least needs to be considered) https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2017...-in-anchorage/
In this case, medical care isn't the issue as she is within the US so covered by her health insurance, but that doesn't pay for medical transport home.
In this case, medical care isn't the issue as she is within the US so covered by her health insurance, but that doesn't pay for medical transport home.
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+1 - Air evacuation is almost never covered by standard health policies in the US. If you are an organized tour such as a cruise, the cruise line will be able to coordinate air evacuation, but won't cover that cost.
Air ambulance from Asia/Africa back to the US can cost $120K or more and if you are travelling on your own, can be difficult to coordinate all the clearances some countries require.
If all you require is a few sutures, that is fine. But, if the nearest surgical center you trust is half-way around the world, spending a bit on a policy is well worth it.
Add to that other associated expenses, such as being "grounded" in a hotel for a couple of weeks or having a spouse or friend who needs to stick around to monitor care, and the costs can become overwhelming to even the well-off.
Air ambulance from Asia/Africa back to the US can cost $120K or more and if you are travelling on your own, can be difficult to coordinate all the clearances some countries require.
If all you require is a few sutures, that is fine. But, if the nearest surgical center you trust is half-way around the world, spending a bit on a policy is well worth it.
Add to that other associated expenses, such as being "grounded" in a hotel for a couple of weeks or having a spouse or friend who needs to stick around to monitor care, and the costs can become overwhelming to even the well-off.