Costa Concordia Sinks!
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This is how such salvage has been done for the last 100 years, with big air pumps on barges alongside. Developed to raise WW1 wrecks. But doesn't spring up to the surface like in Hollywood - takes months. Will need to cut off anything they can, like upper decks to minimise weight.
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Six more victims found
Five more victims found inside the ship. This brings the total casualties to eleven.
Maybe after this incident (cruise ship) captains are again seen as captains and not as PR clowns.
Maybe after this incident (cruise ship) captains are again seen as captains and not as PR clowns.
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With saltwater flowing everywhere, salvage will need to strip the liner nearly to its bare bones, the pipes, electricals, cables, electronics, circuits & switches, carpets, cabinets & furnishings, mattress & pillows - that's truely a complete overhaul/rebuild practically from scratch. Not to mention all the major systems like the propulsion and plumbing.
We've been on escorted private tours of cruise ship's bridge when it wasn't busy navigating narrow channels or shallow waters - where everyone is assigned & busy working - the captain and/or officers on duty are never alone up there - using radars and sonar, etc. along with navigational maps & GPS to chart the course and track & pinpoint the ship's precise movement. When the ship got into trouble & alarms began going off, multiple officers & crews are responsible based on the established plans & procedures on who's going to do what, and they drill on a regular basis - supposingly ... (The dining room attendant often become the crew member responsible for retrieving & handling out life vests near the muster stations if all guests are told to proceed directly and not to go back to their statement/leave all their belongings behind. The room steward will be directing guests at their assembly stations and so forth ...)
Ultimately, the captain is held accountable but the investigators are probably interviewing everyone else assigned to and scheduled to be on the bridge on that tragic evening - there is probably more untold stories underneath the "covers" ...
To put in perspectives: fortunately, 99% of the pax & crew survived and sadly, it's the 1% with the odds against them - apparently foolish actions done as a tribute ended up costing lives, and it didn't have to happen ... with that, my DW is looking at our cruise calendar, our next sailing is this May (and, we almost booked a Mediterranean cruise)
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italian audio / transcript >
http://www.corriere.it/cronache/12_g...a88b1277.shtml
partial english transcript
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_1...back-on-board/
[ ] are via google translate, edited as best i can
http://www.corriere.it/cronache/12_g...a88b1277.shtml
partial english transcript
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_1...back-on-board/
[ ] are via google translate, edited as best i can
[Coast Guard: "I am De Falco from Livorno, may I speak with the captain?]
[Schettino: "Yes, good evening, Captain De Falco"]
[Coast Guard : "Tell me your name please?"]
[Schettino: "I am Captain Schettino, Captain,']
Coast Guard: "Listen Schettino, there are people trapped on board. Now you need to go on your life boat, under the bow of the ship on the side. There is a ladder. You need to climb up the ladder and board the ship. Get on board and report to me how many people there are. Is that clear? [I'm recording this communication Captain Schettino]
[Schettino "I tell you one thing Captain"]
[Coast Guard "You speak loudly. Put your hand in front of the microphone and speak in a louder voice, okay?]
Schettino: "At this moment the ship is tilted."
Coast Guard: "I understand. Listen, there are people who are coming down the ladder on the bow. Go back in the opposite direction, get back on the ship, and tell me how many people there are and what they have on board. . . . Tell me if there are children, women and what type of help they need. And you tell me the number of each of these categories. Is that clear? . . . Listen Schettino, perhaps you have saved yourself from the sea but I will make you look very bad. I will make you pay for this. Dammit, go back on board!"
Schettino: [Captain] "Please . . . "
Coast Guard: "There is no please about it. Go back on board. Assure me you are going back on board!"
Schettino: "I am in the life boat, under the ship, I haven't gone anywhere, I'm here."
Coast Guard: "What are you doing?"
Schettino: "I am coordinating [relief efforts] "
Coast Guard: "What are you coordinating there? Go on board! Coordinate the rescue from on board! Are you refusing?"
Schettino: "No, I am not refusing."
Coast Guard: [You are refusing to go on board Captain?] "Tell me the reason why you are not going back on board."
Schettino: "There is another life boat [that has stopped]
Coast Guard: "You go back on board! That is an order! There is nothing else for you to consider. You have sounded the 'abandon ship.' Now I am giving the orders. Go back on board. Is that clear? Don't you hear me?"
Schettino: "I am going on board."
Coast Guard: "Go! Call me immediately when you are on board. My rescue people are in front of the bow."
...
[Coast Guard: There are already dead Schettino. "]
[Schettino: "How many bodies are there?"]
[Coast Guard: "I do not know .. One I know. One I heard. You have to tell me how many there are, Christ. "]
[Schettino: "But you realize that it's dark and here we see nothing]
[Coast Guard: And you want to go home Schettino? It's dark and you want to go home? Go up on the bow of the ship with the ladder and tell me what you can do, how many people are there, and what they need. Now.]
[Schettino: `I am with the second in command." ]
[Coast Guard: Go up, both of you. You and your second climb aboard now. Is that clear?]
[Schettino: "I want to get on board, but that the other boat here ... There are other rescuers, she stopped and was there, now calling other rescuers ]
[Coast Guard: "You are telling me this hour. Now go on board, go on BOARD! And immediately say how many people are there. "]
[Schettino:" Very good captain ']
[Coast Guard : "Go, now!"]
[Schettino: "Yes, good evening, Captain De Falco"]
[Coast Guard : "Tell me your name please?"]
[Schettino: "I am Captain Schettino, Captain,']
Coast Guard: "Listen Schettino, there are people trapped on board. Now you need to go on your life boat, under the bow of the ship on the side. There is a ladder. You need to climb up the ladder and board the ship. Get on board and report to me how many people there are. Is that clear? [I'm recording this communication Captain Schettino]
[Schettino "I tell you one thing Captain"]
[Coast Guard "You speak loudly. Put your hand in front of the microphone and speak in a louder voice, okay?]
Schettino: "At this moment the ship is tilted."
Coast Guard: "I understand. Listen, there are people who are coming down the ladder on the bow. Go back in the opposite direction, get back on the ship, and tell me how many people there are and what they have on board. . . . Tell me if there are children, women and what type of help they need. And you tell me the number of each of these categories. Is that clear? . . . Listen Schettino, perhaps you have saved yourself from the sea but I will make you look very bad. I will make you pay for this. Dammit, go back on board!"
Schettino: [Captain] "Please . . . "
Coast Guard: "There is no please about it. Go back on board. Assure me you are going back on board!"
Schettino: "I am in the life boat, under the ship, I haven't gone anywhere, I'm here."
Coast Guard: "What are you doing?"
Schettino: "I am coordinating [relief efforts] "
Coast Guard: "What are you coordinating there? Go on board! Coordinate the rescue from on board! Are you refusing?"
Schettino: "No, I am not refusing."
Coast Guard: [You are refusing to go on board Captain?] "Tell me the reason why you are not going back on board."
Schettino: "There is another life boat [that has stopped]
Coast Guard: "You go back on board! That is an order! There is nothing else for you to consider. You have sounded the 'abandon ship.' Now I am giving the orders. Go back on board. Is that clear? Don't you hear me?"
Schettino: "I am going on board."
Coast Guard: "Go! Call me immediately when you are on board. My rescue people are in front of the bow."
...
[Coast Guard: There are already dead Schettino. "]
[Schettino: "How many bodies are there?"]
[Coast Guard: "I do not know .. One I know. One I heard. You have to tell me how many there are, Christ. "]
[Schettino: "But you realize that it's dark and here we see nothing]
[Coast Guard: And you want to go home Schettino? It's dark and you want to go home? Go up on the bow of the ship with the ladder and tell me what you can do, how many people are there, and what they need. Now.]
[Schettino: `I am with the second in command." ]
[Coast Guard: Go up, both of you. You and your second climb aboard now. Is that clear?]
[Schettino: "I want to get on board, but that the other boat here ... There are other rescuers, she stopped and was there, now calling other rescuers ]
[Coast Guard: "You are telling me this hour. Now go on board, go on BOARD! And immediately say how many people are there. "]
[Schettino:" Very good captain ']
[Coast Guard : "Go, now!"]
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The remainder of the radio exchange
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...i080334S79.DTL
(bolding mine)
Needless to say, Schettino comes off looking like a coward.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...i080334S79.DTL
_Schettino: "Where are your rescuers?"
_De Falco: "My air rescue is on the prow. Go. There are already bodies, Schettino."
_Schettino: "How many bodies are there?"
_De Falco: "I don't know. I have heard of one. You are the one who has to tell me how many there are. Christ."
_Schettino: "But do you realize it is dark and here we can't see anything..."
_De Falco: "And so what? You want go home, Schettino? It is dark and you want to go home? Get on that prow of the boat using the pilot ladder and tell me what can be done, how many people there are and what their needs are. Now!"
_Schettino: "...I am with my second in command."
_De Falco: "So both of you go up then ... You and your second go on board now. Is that clear?"
_Schettino: "Commander, I want to go on board, but it is simply that the other boat here ... there are other rescuers. It has stopped and is waiting..."
_De Falco: "It has been an hour that you have been telling me the same thing. Now, go on board. Go on board! And then tell me immediately how many people there are there."
_Schettino: "OK, commander"
_De Falco: "Go, immediately!"
_De Falco: "My air rescue is on the prow. Go. There are already bodies, Schettino."
_Schettino: "How many bodies are there?"
_De Falco: "I don't know. I have heard of one. You are the one who has to tell me how many there are. Christ."
_Schettino: "But do you realize it is dark and here we can't see anything..."
_De Falco: "And so what? You want go home, Schettino? It is dark and you want to go home? Get on that prow of the boat using the pilot ladder and tell me what can be done, how many people there are and what their needs are. Now!"
_Schettino: "...I am with my second in command."
_De Falco: "So both of you go up then ... You and your second go on board now. Is that clear?"
_Schettino: "Commander, I want to go on board, but it is simply that the other boat here ... there are other rescuers. It has stopped and is waiting..."
_De Falco: "It has been an hour that you have been telling me the same thing. Now, go on board. Go on board! And then tell me immediately how many people there are there."
_Schettino: "OK, commander"
_De Falco: "Go, immediately!"
Needless to say, Schettino comes off looking like a coward.
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Story hit home for us as we did almost the same cruise on the Concordia last summer. We enjoyed the cruise and the ship was beautiful. All of our interaction with the crew was very good, I believe we did have a different captain though.
Last edited by stonecrd; Jan 17, 2012 at 9:44 am
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thanks Plato90s
the audio is worth listening to as well >
-02:21
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the audio is worth listening to as well >
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Listen Schettino, perhaps you have saved yourself from the sea but I will make you look very bad. I will make you pay for this. Dammit, go back on board!"
Listen Schettino, that you saved yourself from the sea, but I am going to... I'm going to make sure you get in trouble. ...I am going to make you pay for this. Go on board, (expletive)!"
Listen Schettino, that you saved yourself from the sea, but I am going to... I'm going to make sure you get in trouble. ...I am going to make you pay for this. Go on board, (expletive)!"
["I do not know .. One I know. One I heard. You have to tell me how many there are, Christ. "]
"I don't know. I have heard of one. You are the one who has to tell me how many there are. Christ."
"I don't know. I have heard of one. You are the one who has to tell me how many there are. Christ."
And you want to go home Schettino? It's dark and you want to go home?
And so what? You want go home, Schettino? It is dark and you want to go home
And so what? You want go home, Schettino? It is dark and you want to go home
["You are telling me this hour. Now go on board, go on BOARD! And immediately say how many people are there."]
"It has been an hour that you have been telling me the same thing. Now, go on board. Go on board! And then tell me immediately how many people there are there."
"It has been an hour that you have been telling me the same thing. Now, go on board. Go on board! And then tell me immediately how many people there are there."
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telegraph puts up audio with subtitles >
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ast-guard.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM9sam2u_Tk (official)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ast-guard.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM9sam2u_Tk (official)
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This ship wasn't off course, though. It went right where Captain Schettino steered it, for a Giglio "fly-by." Apparantly, he didn't read his charts, though, to see that there was a rock in the way of his intended course.
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The transcript is unbelievable, but you really need to listen to the audio to get a sense of the urgency. I generally believe it's good policy to avoid yelling at people on the job, but sometimes it's called for--and this captain fully deserved it!
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It's sad an ultimately inexcusable that a man like him was placed in charge of a ship. I think it's reasonably clear that people died from his inaction (not taking charge of the evacuation) and it seems likely that people died from his action of not ensuring his ship was on course.
Very sad for the victims and their families.
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It's sad an ultimately inexcusable that a man like him was placed in charge of a ship.
'A man like him' is a coward by his actions taken (or not taken) This behaviour would be hard to predict in advance... It's hard to blame the company for the Captain being cowardly.
I think it's reasonably clear that people died from his inaction (not taking charge of the evacuation) and it seems likely that people died from his action of not ensuring his ship was on course.
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more a question of just how bad the results of the investigation will be
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The transcript is pretty damning, but the audio is irrefutable evidence that the Captain abandoned ship before all the pax were off then resisted every request and order to get back on the ship and supervise efforts first-hand. I'd say things don't look good at all for Capt. Schettino.