Apple Pay and Rewards Network (Dining for Miles)
May 28, 2015, 7:05 pm
#31
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May 28, 2015, 7:46 pm
#32
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Here you go. Hopefully this helps!
Disclaimer: Like with any other aspect of churning/points earning, this carries risks (known and unknown). I'm not responsible for any adverse action Rewards Network, your FF program or your card issuer may take as a result of following these instructions.
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Part 1: Reading your card number
Not everywhere in the US can take NFC right now, not even close. However, this is definitely improving over time.
Also, the numbers transmitted are not guaranteed to stay the same for a significant period of time. I think Google Wallet's changes occasionally but I don't know how often. Apple Pay's should stay the same unless you restore/wipe your phone or otherwise delete and re-add your cards to it, or if you have to report your physical card/phone as lost or stolen. You may want to repeat Part 1 again occasionally and compare the last four digits to what's on the Rewards Network site to make sure nothing changed; RN will not automatically update them.
Disclaimer: Like with any other aspect of churning/points earning, this carries risks (known and unknown). I'm not responsible for any adverse action Rewards Network, your FF program or your card issuer may take as a result of following these instructions.
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Part 1: Reading your card number
- Purchase a USB RFID/NFC reader from Amazon or your favorite store (the one I'm using is but it appears to be discontinued; other similar ones should work). Install the drivers for it for your operating system.
- Download a program called cardpeek and install it on your computer. Plug your card reader in and then start the application.
- It should look something like this; choose the card reader you have plugged in. Say Yes if it asks to download updates.
- Choose Analyzer->EMV and place the phone over the reader. For Apple Pay you'll need to authenticate with your finger/thumbprint before it will transmit any card info. For the Android solutions it should be enough to unlock your phone's display, but you may have to enter a PIN depending on your settings.
- If cardpeek asks to send GET PROCESSING OPTIONS, choose Yes.
- Once it's done scanning, a whole bunch of data will come up. You want to look for something called "Track 2 Equivalent Data". The first 16 digits of it (15 if American Express) is the card number that you're going to add in Part 2 below. The last four digits of that should be equivalent to the Device Account Number shown in Passbook if you use Apple Pay.
- Log into your preferred Rewards Network site.
- Click on the Account Information tab if you're not directed there and then click on "Add a card".
- Choose the card type and then enter the number you found in Part 1 above.
WARNING for non-Apple Pay users: the card type you selected to use is likely not going to be the same as what's transmitted. This is especially important for Google Wallet users, as it uses a virtual MasterCard even if you have a Visa/AmEx/Discover card added on your phone. General rule of thumb is to check the first digit of the transmitted card number: 4 is generally Visa, 5 is MasterCard, 3 is American Express and 6 is Discover.
- Agree to the terms and conditions and push Save. You're all set.
Not everywhere in the US can take NFC right now, not even close. However, this is definitely improving over time.
Also, the numbers transmitted are not guaranteed to stay the same for a significant period of time. I think Google Wallet's changes occasionally but I don't know how often. Apple Pay's should stay the same unless you restore/wipe your phone or otherwise delete and re-add your cards to it, or if you have to report your physical card/phone as lost or stolen. You may want to repeat Part 1 again occasionally and compare the last four digits to what's on the Rewards Network site to make sure nothing changed; RN will not automatically update them.
May 30, 2015, 9:52 am
#33
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May 31, 2015, 8:48 pm
#35
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I got this dual interface one from
. Still waiting for it to be delivered, so can't comment on how well it works.
Nov 15, 2021, 9:42 pm
#36
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is this still what has to be done to get Apple Pay to play with rewards dining? Sounds beyond complicated :-/
Here you go. Hopefully this helps!
Disclaimer: Like with any other aspect of churning/points earning, this carries risks (known and unknown). I'm not responsible for any adverse action Rewards Network, your FF program or your card issuer may take as a result of following these instructions.
* * *
Part 1: Reading your card number
Not everywhere in the US can take NFC right now, not even close. However, this is definitely improving over time.
Also, the numbers transmitted are not guaranteed to stay the same for a significant period of time. I think Google Wallet's changes occasionally but I don't know how often. Apple Pay's should stay the same unless you restore/wipe your phone or otherwise delete and re-add your cards to it, or if you have to report your physical card/phone as lost or stolen. You may want to repeat Part 1 again occasionally and compare the last four digits to what's on the Rewards Network site to make sure nothing changed; RN will not automatically update them.
Disclaimer: Like with any other aspect of churning/points earning, this carries risks (known and unknown). I'm not responsible for any adverse action Rewards Network, your FF program or your card issuer may take as a result of following these instructions.
* * *
Part 1: Reading your card number
- Purchase a USB RFID/NFC reader from Amazon or your favorite store (the one I'm using is this but it appears to be discontinued; other similar ones should work). Install the drivers for it for your operating system.
- Download a program called cardpeek and install it on your computer. Plug your card reader in and then start the application.
- It should look something like this; choose the card reader you have plugged in. Say Yes if it asks to download updates.
- Choose Analyzer->EMV and place the phone over the reader. For Apple Pay you'll need to authenticate with your finger/thumbprint before it will transmit any card info. For the Android solutions it should be enough to unlock your phone's display, but you may have to enter a PIN depending on your settings.
- If cardpeek asks to send GET PROCESSING OPTIONS, choose Yes.
- Once it's done scanning, a whole bunch of data will come up. You want to look for something called "Track 2 Equivalent Data". The first 16 digits of it (15 if American Express) is the card number that you're going to add in Part 2 below. The last four digits of that should be equivalent to the Device Account Number shown in Passbook if you use Apple Pay.
- Log into your preferred Rewards Network site.
- Click on the Account Information tab if you're not directed there and then click on "Add a card".
- Choose the card type and then enter the number you found in Part 1 above.
WARNING for non-Apple Pay users: the card type you selected to use is likely not going to be the same as what's transmitted. This is especially important for Google Wallet users, as it uses a virtual MasterCard even if you have a Visa/AmEx/Discover card added on your phone. General rule of thumb is to check the first digit of the transmitted card number: 4 is generally Visa, 5 is MasterCard, 3 is American Express and 6 is Discover.
- Agree to the terms and conditions and push Save. You're all set.
Not everywhere in the US can take NFC right now, not even close. However, this is definitely improving over time.
Also, the numbers transmitted are not guaranteed to stay the same for a significant period of time. I think Google Wallet's changes occasionally but I don't know how often. Apple Pay's should stay the same unless you restore/wipe your phone or otherwise delete and re-add your cards to it, or if you have to report your physical card/phone as lost or stolen. You may want to repeat Part 1 again occasionally and compare the last four digits to what's on the Rewards Network site to make sure nothing changed; RN will not automatically update them.
Nov 17, 2021, 1:48 am
#37
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Nov 17, 2021, 8:38 am
#38
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Aug 15, 2022, 7:39 pm
#39
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I have mostly gotten credit. For a couple with United through ApplePay, I have received the email you get shortly after dining, but the actual miles never posted. Haven't been able to spot a pattern (such as watch card vs. phone card). I also feel like the increasing use of third party platforms like toast to support kiosks and QR code order-at-your-table has made things a little sketchier.