USA contactless credit/debit/transit (2014-2016)
#5356
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Canada
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It might be specific to that station.
I had success using at one Chevron, no luck in another one. The one where it failed got the checkmark but wouldn't proceed. Tried a couple of times and it even once prompted for zip code input.
The NFC scanner appeared to be the same from my memory.
I had success using at one Chevron, no luck in another one. The one where it failed got the checkmark but wouldn't proceed. Tried a couple of times and it even once prompted for zip code input.
The NFC scanner appeared to be the same from my memory.
#5357
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Window Seat
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I keep crashing CVS registers trying to tap my card. Sorry, the machine still accepts a tap and I am going to keep trying it every time to see if it works.
I can still get tap to go through on the CVS self checkout. It gives their beloved "contactless not allowed" once then I wait a bit for the pinpad to reset and tap again. Then I hit go back on the self checkout screen and select payment type again and it will process.
I can still get tap to go through on the CVS self checkout. It gives their beloved "contactless not allowed" once then I wait a bit for the pinpad to reset and tap again. Then I hit go back on the self checkout screen and select payment type again and it will process.
#5358
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 266
Android Pay is beginning to become annoying especially when it doesn't display anything to let you know about an issue.
Friday, I stopped at Family Dollar. Machine said chip card error or the sort. Tried again, same issue. Ended up using Samsung Pay.
Today, I went to McDonalds. Tapped, phone says try to hold close to device. I do it again, nothing happens. I try Samsung Pay and I get an error on the POS. The cashier says to tap higher to the normal spot but the receipt came out for Samsung Pay.
Just work, Android Pay.
Friday, I stopped at Family Dollar. Machine said chip card error or the sort. Tried again, same issue. Ended up using Samsung Pay.
Today, I went to McDonalds. Tapped, phone says try to hold close to device. I do it again, nothing happens. I try Samsung Pay and I get an error on the POS. The cashier says to tap higher to the normal spot but the receipt came out for Samsung Pay.
Just work, Android Pay.
#5359
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 3,537
Android Pay is beginning to become annoying especially when it doesn't display anything to let you know about an issue.
Friday, I stopped at Family Dollar. Machine said chip card error or the sort. Tried again, same issue. Ended up using Samsung Pay.
Today, I went to McDonalds. Tapped, phone says try to hold close to device. I do it again, nothing happens. I try Samsung Pay and I get an error on the POS. The cashier says to tap higher to the normal spot but the receipt came out for Samsung Pay.
Just work, Android Pay.
Friday, I stopped at Family Dollar. Machine said chip card error or the sort. Tried again, same issue. Ended up using Samsung Pay.
Today, I went to McDonalds. Tapped, phone says try to hold close to device. I do it again, nothing happens. I try Samsung Pay and I get an error on the POS. The cashier says to tap higher to the normal spot but the receipt came out for Samsung Pay.
Just work, Android Pay.
#5360
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: San Diego, CA
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I forget exactly, but if a business has a VX520 and is EMV enabled, does contactless always run as EMV contactless? I managed to use contactless last night at a place with that terminal (even though the terminal really isn't positioned well enough for it) and had to sign for the ~$8 purchase, indicating that they used MSD contactless.
The reason I ask is that I'm not sure that the business is EMV enabled. I might have to go back and let them use my physical card to confirm either way.
The reason I ask is that I'm not sure that the business is EMV enabled. I might have to go back and let them use my physical card to confirm either way.
#5361
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I forget exactly, but if a business has a VX520 and is EMV enabled, does contactless always run as EMV contactless? I managed to use contactless last night at a place with that terminal (even though the terminal really isn't positioned well enough for it) and had to sign for the ~$8 purchase, indicating that they used MSD contactless.
The reason I ask is that I'm not sure that the business is EMV enabled. I might have to go back and let them use my physical card to confirm either way.
The reason I ask is that I'm not sure that the business is EMV enabled. I might have to go back and let them use my physical card to confirm either way.
#5362
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#5363
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 1,592
I forget exactly, but if a business has a VX520 and is EMV enabled, does contactless always run as EMV contactless? I managed to use contactless last night at a place with that terminal (even though the terminal really isn't positioned well enough for it) and had to sign for the ~$8 purchase, indicating that they used MSD contactless.
The reason I ask is that I'm not sure that the business is EMV enabled. I might have to go back and let them use my physical card to confirm either way.
The reason I ask is that I'm not sure that the business is EMV enabled. I might have to go back and let them use my physical card to confirm either way.
With that being said, it may not strictly be an EMV/MSD thing. I've had to sign with EMV contactless on many First Data terminals and at Macy's.
#5364
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 1,592
We're talking about a segment of retailers who:
- Mostly only installed EMV capable equipment after being cajoled by Visa and MC (despite some having a significant presence outside the US),
- Want the PCI security standards to go away altogether in favor of something government mandated (which they'll then lobby to weaken),
- Patched said EMV capable equipment into extremely old POS systems that really should have been replaced,
- Would rather keep tracking their customers, and
- Refuse to take any responsibility when their bad decisions come back to bite their customers.
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Someone said a few months ago that contactless doesn't work at Hair Cuttery. I just tried today and it still works.
Last edited by emmanuel_t; Oct 23, 2016 at 3:15 pm
#5365
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My Debit MasterCard went through as MSD on a VX520 with EMV. They did have a VX820 connected but it wasn't accepting my phone for some reason.
With that being said, it may not strictly be an EMV/MSD thing. I've had to sign with EMV contactless on many First Data terminals and at Macy's.
With that being said, it may not strictly be an EMV/MSD thing. I've had to sign with EMV contactless on many First Data terminals and at Macy's.
#5366
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 1,592
I've had only one EMV contactless transaction with a VX520 (although it was in Canada). It shows the AID and App Label at the very least.
#5367
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,722
That is odd so what what card did you use there as when I used my Visa card there it worked perfectly fine although that was months ago. But yeah they could have borked the contactless although you'd expect them to stop tweaking the config once EMV is enabled but companies can't stop messing with stuff. Your NFC antenna could be failing or a case could be blocking the signal from working.
#5368
Join Date: Oct 2014
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Posts: 3,249
That is odd so what what card did you use there as when I used my Visa card there it worked perfectly fine although that was months ago. But yeah they could have borked the contactless although you'd expect them to stop tweaking the config once EMV is enabled but companies can't stop messing with stuff. Your NFC antenna could be failing or a case could be blocking the signal from working.
#5369
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I can confirm that the Subway by my house prints only one receipt now as well.
Also, the new ICBC US cards seem to be contactless:
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Also, the new ICBC US cards seem to be contactless:
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