scibot

Well I'm sure many liquor stores will accept it soon, that seems to be the case in many areas. This place had Verifone mx8xx with emv slots so why they upgraded to iSC250's is anyones guess, for Apple Pay support maybe? :P Also this isn't the only place recently where I have seen iSC250's with contactless enabled on them the last place was a Phillips 66 gas station. But that station was the only one that worked, others with the same name did not have it on.

tmiw

I caused the card reader on one of the vending machines at work to reboot by tapping my AmEx contactless card. It actually finished authorizing the transaction too because I got a notification from AmEx on my phone. Maybe that's why there were only V/MC/Discover logos on it?

AllieKat

Well, I can tell you that even in a mature contactless market (the UK), contactless Amex is widely NOT accepted. Even major chains like Starbucks and Superdrug refuse Amex contactless (contact-only) but take contactless Visa/MC.

Starbucks employees claim Amex requires a separate contract for contactless that Starbucks isn't willing to pay for. Sounds like made-up BS but I've heard it at a few different Starbucks locations, so I wonder if they're being told that from above...

reclusive46

It is. In their stores with new Ingenico terminals (very limited amount at the moment and only outside of the M25 area) Amex contactless works fine.

Unfortunatly Superdrug got their contactless terminals from Worldpay before they started to support Amex Contactless. Elavon is now the only UK merchant bank not to support it and they will from the start of 2016.

wco81

Has anyone heard if Apple will increase the number of cards you can put into Apple Pay in iOS 9?

Or is the secure element too limited to store more than the current 8?

I heard they were expanding AP to include rewards cards but if they keep the capacity at 8 cards, it's not going to be useful having to choose among different kinds of cards.

tmiw

They probably don't need to keep loyalty cards (that aren't store-branded credit cards) in the secure element, though I could be wrong on that. It likely depends on how iOS communicates with it and the NFC radio.

wco81

If it wasn't such a hassle to re-add cards, it wouldn't be a big deal to shuffle them as needed, deleting them and re-adding if necessary.

But some banks change the authorization procedures. For instance, I tried to re-add a BofA card and they wanted me to send in materials or some such nonsense so I didn't re-add them.

Points Scrounger

I noticed that a restaurant I sometimes go to had a Square terminal now; however, at the register itself I saw an FD-40 also alongside it. So, I asked if the manager could use my WF card as contactless instead of swiping, and he agreed. It took long enough with the FD-40 (probably a good two minutes) that I asked whether he was on dial-up; he said no. Right after that, he suddenly inserted my card in the EMV slot. When I cried "No!" he replied "I understand you don't want to sign, but contactless will need probably another two minutes more to load (there were people waiting behind me)." Next thing I know, he trying to pass me the tethered terminal to enter the tip! I would've had to do so at such an awkward angle that I motioned him to take the terminal back and add $1.50 for me. The device then printed the signature slip with the tip included, exactly as I would want a PIN transaction to work. I'll try my UN card there next time to see whether I get a tip entry prompt or not.

Hard to believe it would take almost l five minutes for NFC to work, but I suppose most folks turn on (initialize) their FD first at the start of business?

Points Scrounger

So, I'm heading back through the lobby after checking my box and there's a rather agitated customer at the APC machine. I asked if I might help, and she points to the screen saying "I can't enter my PIN!" Ears perking up at that, I looked on while she poked uselessly at the PIN area. Next I looked at her card, a chip-less B of A debit one; that ruled out her not keeping it in the machine for EMV. I suggested she hit CREDIT, which caused a response of "But, it's not a credit card!" I told her to try it anyway, and to her utter surprise the transaction was immediately approved, and her stamps popped out of the machine. I then took her aside, explaining that she should just think of a "credit" choice as meaning "Bypass PIN?" if she encounters it again.

Hawaiian717

A little confusing there. It sounds like the FD-40 wasn't turned on, so you had to wait for it to boot up, and then after about two minutes it's on enough that it can do EMV but not contactless?

Points Scrounger

That was my understanding. It could have been that in his experience contactless is slower than EMV, so he wasn't willing to take any more time with folks behind me. I suppose had I been using an actual phone, and not willing to fish out a card, we'd have all had to wait.

MASTERNC

Hidden in the recent Apple conference call was a mention that 700 colleges & universities in the US would begin accepting Apple Pay this fall. I haven't been able to find a list or if it is affiliated with a certain contractor (such as Aramark for food or Follett or B&N for bookstores).

tmiw

http://www.cultofmac.com/383745/42-o...sed-apple-pay/

That's way more than the 6% that some have been claiming. Then again I believe the 6% number wasn't that recent.

mrcobra92

So I just got my new debit card from Citibank for my new account (switching to them for a permeant stay) and it has PayPass as requested. Not sure if it will still have that when they send me an EMV one in the next few months.

ianmanka

When I got my Citi AAdvantage EMV card, I requested PayPass-enabled cards online, and each replacement card did not have it. After a few calls to Citi customer service, two supervisor levels up confirmed that PayPass can not be on an EMV card.