May 21, 2014, 10:21 am
Last edit by: Superorb
These are Amex-network cards, issued and administered by Wells Fargo. American Express acts as the transaction processing network, in the same way that VISA process transactions for other Wells Fargo cards. Amex-network cards do not count against your four credit card limit with American Express, nor will you deal with American Express customer service.
There have been several data points that people on work visas don't qualify, only US citizens and permanent residents do. However some people with visas have also received this card.
If you have some relationship with wells fargo, less verification info is asked so keeping a checking with WF can be a good way to improve your chances.
Wells fargo also restricts CC signup bonuses to 1 per person lifetime. Some people have also reported one per address so YMMV.
You can have both types of Propel cards open simultaneously.
It easily takes 90-120 days after meeting the spend for the bonus to post.
Airline Fee Credit
Once per anniversary year.
It appears that one can wait until after the annual fee is charged, the get a second reimbursement of an airline expenditure, and then cancel to get the annual fee refunded.
Examples of airline related charges that have been reimbursed:
1. Gift cards of most airlines
2. BA award ticket taxes
3. AA award ticket taxes (booked via phone)
4. LH award redeposit fee (charged via phone)
5. Amazon GC through UA shopping app.
Examples of airline related charges that have NOT been reimbursed:
1. AS award date change fee ($125, charged online)
There have been several data points that people on work visas don't qualify, only US citizens and permanent residents do. However some people with visas have also received this card.
If you have some relationship with wells fargo, less verification info is asked so keeping a checking with WF can be a good way to improve your chances.
Wells fargo also restricts CC signup bonuses to 1 per person lifetime. Some people have also reported one per address so YMMV.
You can have both types of Propel cards open simultaneously.
It easily takes 90-120 days after meeting the spend for the bonus to post.
Airline Fee Credit
Once per anniversary year.
It appears that one can wait until after the annual fee is charged, the get a second reimbursement of an airline expenditure, and then cancel to get the annual fee refunded.
Examples of airline related charges that have been reimbursed:
1. Gift cards of most airlines
2. BA award ticket taxes
3. AA award ticket taxes (booked via phone)
4. LH award redeposit fee (charged via phone)
5. Amazon GC through UA shopping app.
Examples of airline related charges that have NOT been reimbursed:
1. AS award date change fee ($125, charged online)
Wells Fargo 40k/$3k-3mo Propel World & 20k/$3k-3mo Propel 365 Amex
Jan 26, 2015, 2:42 am
#451
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Only if you also have a different WF card with that rewards option. If you only have the Propel, there is no booking fee, but flight redemptions are limited to 1 cent/point redemption value.
Jan 26, 2015, 8:04 am
#452
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Jan 26, 2015, 9:58 am
#453
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Omaha, NE
Programs: SPG Gold, Marriott Gold, Amex Platinum
Posts: 54
Jan 26, 2015, 8:33 pm
#454
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 99
Yep, based on the postings here I too pulled the trigger on another $100 SWA GC this calendar year, but no credit. Called to see what's up, and they said no credit until after anniversary date. So now I have $100 swa gc which I am not going to use and another one from last year that I barely use. Great...
Jan 27, 2015, 12:36 am
#455
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Omaha, NE
Programs: SPG Gold, Marriott Gold, Amex Platinum
Posts: 54
Yep, based on the postings here I too pulled the trigger on another $100 SWA GC this calendar year, but no credit. Called to see what's up, and they said no credit until after anniversary date. So now I have $100 swa gc which I am not going to use and another one from last year that I barely use. Great...
Jan 27, 2015, 10:25 am
#456
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 26
Data point:
Applied for both Propel World and Visa Signature with 2 browser trick (it sounds like you cannot get Visa Signature if you already have other CC). Both pending, and then approved without call in (CL: $10k and $9k). I have checking/saving accounts with WF for 7 years
I can redeem flights at a rate of 1.5 cents/point but need to pay $24 booking fees. Will call in to redeem award and see whether they can waive the fees as I am the holder of Propel World
[update] I can now confirm there is only one hard pull - 2 browser trick works for WF!!
Applied for both Propel World and Visa Signature with 2 browser trick (it sounds like you cannot get Visa Signature if you already have other CC). Both pending, and then approved without call in (CL: $10k and $9k). I have checking/saving accounts with WF for 7 years
I can redeem flights at a rate of 1.5 cents/point but need to pay $24 booking fees. Will call in to redeem award and see whether they can waive the fees as I am the holder of Propel World
[update] I can now confirm there is only one hard pull - 2 browser trick works for WF!!
Last edited by jasonda; Feb 6, 2015 at 2:59 pm
Jan 27, 2015, 4:12 pm
#457
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 26
Data point:
Applied for both Propel World and Visa Signature with 2 browser trick (it sounds like you cannot get Visa Signature if you already have other CC). Both pending, and then approved without call in (CL: $10k and $9k). I have checking/saving accounts with WF for 7 years
I can redeem flights at a rate of 1.5 cents/point but need to pay $24 booking fees. Will call in to redeem award and see whether they can waive the fees as I am the holder of Propel World
Applied for both Propel World and Visa Signature with 2 browser trick (it sounds like you cannot get Visa Signature if you already have other CC). Both pending, and then approved without call in (CL: $10k and $9k). I have checking/saving accounts with WF for 7 years
I can redeem flights at a rate of 1.5 cents/point but need to pay $24 booking fees. Will call in to redeem award and see whether they can waive the fees as I am the holder of Propel World
Amex PRG specifies that I can only get 3x MR when charged directly with airlines, but I always can get bonus without any problem when booking with online travel agent. Not sure whether this is the case for Propel World...
(My best guess is I can still get 3x WF reward points because the merchant code system should be the same)
Jan 30, 2015, 2:06 pm
#459
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 26
Picked up the Propel World Amex last April. I called retentions today to see if I could get any offers. No dice. Also tried to convert to something with no annual fee. Again, no dice without a new application.
So now I'm wondering...Is this card churnable? Haven't see any reports. Regardless, I'll try retentions again when the annual fee hits.
So now I'm wondering...Is this card churnable? Haven't see any reports. Regardless, I'll try retentions again when the annual fee hits.
Feb 1, 2015, 8:36 am
#461
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 26
Diabolical, I like it. Since the credit posts in a day or 2 if you buy a AA or SW gift card for exactly $100 (my 2 data points), I bet this would work.
Feb 4, 2015, 12:08 am
#462
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Data point:
Applied for both Propel World and Visa Signature with 2 browser trick (it sounds like you cannot get Visa Signature if you already have other CC). Both pending, and then approved without call in (CL: $10k and $9k). I have checking/saving accounts with WF for 7 years
I can redeem flights at a rate of 1.5 cents/point but need to pay $24 booking fees. Will call in to redeem award and see whether they can waive the fees as I am the holder of Propel World
Applied for both Propel World and Visa Signature with 2 browser trick (it sounds like you cannot get Visa Signature if you already have other CC). Both pending, and then approved without call in (CL: $10k and $9k). I have checking/saving accounts with WF for 7 years
I can redeem flights at a rate of 1.5 cents/point but need to pay $24 booking fees. Will call in to redeem award and see whether they can waive the fees as I am the holder of Propel World
Feb 4, 2015, 8:02 am
#463
Join Date: May 2014
Location: East Coast
Posts: 70