Is the 91 day rule set in stone?
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 21
Is the 91 day rule set in stone?
Generally I always try to follow the 91 day rule between credit cards (messed up once last year), but I really don't want to miss out on the 100k AA card because of it.
Me and my SO last cards for the past year are as follows:
1/4/13 SO - Barclay
3/21/13 Me - AmEx
3/21/13 Me - Barclay
10/14/13 Me - Chase
10/14/13 Me - Chase
12/14/13 SO - Chase
12/30/13 Me - Chase
We both have 760+ credit scores and no need for a great score any time soon. We own a home and are not in the market for a new car.
Could we both safely sign up for two cards right now?
My SO would sign up for the 80k IHG and the 40k Hilton. I would sign up for the 80k IHG and the 100k AA.
What do you guys think?
Me and my SO last cards for the past year are as follows:
1/4/13 SO - Barclay
3/21/13 Me - AmEx
3/21/13 Me - Barclay
10/14/13 Me - Chase
10/14/13 Me - Chase
12/14/13 SO - Chase
12/30/13 Me - Chase
We both have 760+ credit scores and no need for a great score any time soon. We own a home and are not in the market for a new car.
Could we both safely sign up for two cards right now?
My SO would sign up for the 80k IHG and the 40k Hilton. I would sign up for the 80k IHG and the 100k AA.
What do you guys think?
#2
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NYC
Programs: Delta Platinum, Air Berlin Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Platinum, SPG Platinum
Posts: 53
Generally I always try to follow the 91 day rule between credit cards (messed up once last year), but I really don't want to miss out on the 100k AA card because of it.
Me and my SO last cards for the past year are as follows:
1/4/13 SO - Barclay
3/21/13 Me - AmEx
3/21/13 Me - Barclay
10/14/13 Me - Chase
10/14/13 Me - Chase
12/14/13 SO - Chase
12/30/13 Me - Chase
We both have 760+ credit scores and no need for a great score any time soon. We own a home and are not in the market for a new car.
Could we both safely sign up for two cards right now?
My SO would sign up for the 80k IHG and the 40k Hilton. I would sign up for the 80k IHG and the 100k AA.
What do you guys think?
Me and my SO last cards for the past year are as follows:
1/4/13 SO - Barclay
3/21/13 Me - AmEx
3/21/13 Me - Barclay
10/14/13 Me - Chase
10/14/13 Me - Chase
12/14/13 SO - Chase
12/30/13 Me - Chase
We both have 760+ credit scores and no need for a great score any time soon. We own a home and are not in the market for a new car.
Could we both safely sign up for two cards right now?
My SO would sign up for the 80k IHG and the 40k Hilton. I would sign up for the 80k IHG and the 100k AA.
What do you guys think?
#3
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 113
It's really YMMV. I've applied for several CC's and a car refinance within the last 2 months and haven't been denied for anything. I am done for a while though until the next great offer comes along. I won't hesitate to apply for it even if I am not at the "91" day mark. Here's my recent apps for reference:
1/1 Auto Refinance
1/1 DCU Visa $7.5K (was auto approved when I refinanced my Auto Loan)
1/17 Amex SPG $6.4K
1/21 SW Plus $9K
1/21 SW Premier $12K
2/08 AA Executive $13K
2/25 Chase IHG $3K
2/25 AA Executive $10.5K
Credit score on 1/1 was 722. Credit score as of 2/14: 751.
1/1 Auto Refinance
1/1 DCU Visa $7.5K (was auto approved when I refinanced my Auto Loan)
1/17 Amex SPG $6.4K
1/21 SW Plus $9K
1/21 SW Premier $12K
2/08 AA Executive $13K
2/25 Chase IHG $3K
2/25 AA Executive $10.5K
Credit score on 1/1 was 722. Credit score as of 2/14: 751.
#5
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,932
However, there are some bank-specific rules. The ones I know are the Citi ones: At least 8+ days between your first app and your second one, and at least 65+ days between your first app and your third one (ie, no more than 2 Citi apps in any 65-day period).
Then there are inquiry rules that are also bank-specific. The one I know is Citi's, where they typically will reject you if you have more than 6 hard pulls showing in the past 6 months on whichever bureau's report they happen to pull.
Please note that 91+91 days is essentially 6 months, so part of it may be to space AOR pulls far enough part to not upset banks who care only about the last 6 months of pulls. But obviously this would not matter if you're not AORing and only applying for a few cards every 6 months anyway.
AOR = App-o-Rama = applying for a bunch of cards at one time. Some people do an AOR, then take a rest, then do another AOR, then take a rest, etc. For them, because they're applying for some many cards at one time, the timing between AORs can be critical. For those who only apply for one card at a time and only a handful of cards in any 6 month period, most of these "rules" that AORer's come up with are irrelevant.
#6
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NYC
Programs: Delta Platinum, Air Berlin Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Platinum, SPG Platinum
Posts: 53
#9
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: ORD
Programs: AA, UA, AS, DL, BA, F9, IHG Plat, HH Gold, CC Gold, SPG Gold, MR Silver
Posts: 1,786
Generally I always try to follow the 91 day rule between credit cards (messed up once last year), but I really don't want to miss out on the 100k AA card because of it.
Me and my SO last cards for the past year are as follows:
1/4/13 SO - Barclay
3/21/13 Me - AmEx
3/21/13 Me - Barclay
10/14/13 Me - Chase
10/14/13 Me - Chase
12/14/13 SO - Chase
12/30/13 Me - Chase
We both have 760+ credit scores and no need for a great score any time soon. We own a home and are not in the market for a new car.
Could we both safely sign up for two cards right now?
My SO would sign up for the 80k IHG and the 40k Hilton. I would sign up for the 80k IHG and the 100k AA.
What do you guys think?
Me and my SO last cards for the past year are as follows:
1/4/13 SO - Barclay
3/21/13 Me - AmEx
3/21/13 Me - Barclay
10/14/13 Me - Chase
10/14/13 Me - Chase
12/14/13 SO - Chase
12/30/13 Me - Chase
We both have 760+ credit scores and no need for a great score any time soon. We own a home and are not in the market for a new car.
Could we both safely sign up for two cards right now?
My SO would sign up for the 80k IHG and the 40k Hilton. I would sign up for the 80k IHG and the 100k AA.
What do you guys think?
#10
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,598
It's really YMMV. I've applied for several CC's and a car refinance within the last 2 months and haven't been denied for anything. I am done for a while though until the next great offer comes along. I won't hesitate to apply for it even if I am not at the "91" day mark. Here's my recent apps for reference:
1/1 Auto Refinance
1/1 DCU Visa $7.5K (was auto approved when I refinanced my Auto Loan)
1/17 Amex SPG $6.4K
1/21 SW Plus $9K
1/21 SW Premier $12K
2/08 AA Executive $13K
2/25 Chase IHG $3K
2/25 AA Executive $10.5K
Credit score on 1/1 was 722. Credit score as of 2/14: 751.
1/1 Auto Refinance
1/1 DCU Visa $7.5K (was auto approved when I refinanced my Auto Loan)
1/17 Amex SPG $6.4K
1/21 SW Plus $9K
1/21 SW Premier $12K
2/08 AA Executive $13K
2/25 Chase IHG $3K
2/25 AA Executive $10.5K
Credit score on 1/1 was 722. Credit score as of 2/14: 751.
Is that your FICO score ?
#14
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: SAN
Programs: Delta Gold. Hilton Diamond. Hyatt Explorist.
Posts: 1,672
AOR = App-o-Rama = applying for a bunch of cards at one time. Some people do an AOR, then take a rest, then do another AOR, then take a rest, etc. For them, because they're applying for some many cards at one time, the timing between AORs can be critical. For those who only apply for one card at a time and only a handful of cards in any 6 month period, most of these "rules" that AORer's come up with are irrelevant.
Or is it something else that makes AORs at regular intervals a great strategy? I've done a few AORs, but mostly just because the bloggers suggest it, and I don't really know why. I know some people that do one credit application per month, and they do fine. If I was a bank, and the application for my credit card was someone's fifth or sixth that day, I'd surely reject it.
#15
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 32
I'm in the same boat as well. My "91 days" is approaching this Friday, 3/7/14. My challenge is the SWA card promo expires this Wednesday, and I don't want to miss out on the 50k offer. Here's my history:
Me
12/6/13 - Citi AA Plat, $15.5k
12/2/13 - Barclay Arrival, $17.5k
11/5/13 - WF Rewards Visa, $13k
11/5/13 - WF Line of Credit, $15k
Wife
12/6/13 - Citi AA Plat, $8k
12/6/13 - Amex SPG, $10k
12/6/13 - CSP, $20k
March AOR
Me
3/??/14 - Amex Plat, 100k (targeted)
3/??/14 - Citi Exec 100k
3/??/14 - Chase SWA Plus, 50k
3/??/14 - BoA Alaska Air, 30k
Wife
3/??/14 - Barclay Arrival, 40k
3/??/14 - Amex Blue (old)
3/??/14 - Chase SWA Plus, 50k
3/??/14 - BoA Alaska Air, 30k
Me
12/6/13 - Citi AA Plat, $15.5k
12/2/13 - Barclay Arrival, $17.5k
11/5/13 - WF Rewards Visa, $13k
11/5/13 - WF Line of Credit, $15k
Wife
12/6/13 - Citi AA Plat, $8k
12/6/13 - Amex SPG, $10k
12/6/13 - CSP, $20k
March AOR
Me
3/??/14 - Amex Plat, 100k (targeted)
3/??/14 - Citi Exec 100k
3/??/14 - Chase SWA Plus, 50k
3/??/14 - BoA Alaska Air, 30k
Wife
3/??/14 - Barclay Arrival, 40k
3/??/14 - Amex Blue (old)
3/??/14 - Chase SWA Plus, 50k
3/??/14 - BoA Alaska Air, 30k