Jan 9, 2014, 8:14 am
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*** Historical information follows: ***
Do not use a Preferred Application (10K Anniversay bonus) if you are not Preferred Elite. The reconsideration csr said as of December 11, 2014 the Preferred numbers are programmed in their computer and non-Preferred are immediately kicked out with no credit check. You cannot apply for any Barclays card for 30 days after rejection.
from the rejection letter I received:
The Dividend Miles number you provided on the application does not currently reflect a Preferred Status within the Dividend Miles program, and unfortunately this offer is only available to Dividend Miles members with Preferred Status. A credit report was not used in making this determination.
Note: If you are an existing cardholder of the older version of this card with a perpetual anniversary bonus, please ask account questions here:
[EXPIRED] Fee waived, US Airways Card, 30K + 10k @ anniversary
Check Application Status
Current offers:
There is a new (as of Dec. 4, 2014) public offer for 50,000 bonus miles after the first purchase, $89 annual fee is not waived:
http://www.worldgotbigger.com/us-airways-credit-card/
There is also an offer for 50k now and 10k at first anniversary, for preferred members only, reported by jrobinson5 in Post 935 - but see that post for the link and that user's difficulties with it.
Older offers that may still work:
50k Offers - There are individually targeted offers circulating for a 50k signup bonus. No one has yet identified a way to apply without actually receiving a personalized code from Barclays in advance.
40k miles after first purchase; $89 annual fee NOT waived [This is the standard public offer]
40k miles after first purchase plus 10k miles at first (and only first) anniversary; $89 annual fee NOT waived [Note: For"Preferred Members Only"; for similar offers, this has been sporadically enforced - see the anniversary miles thread below for historical data]
Alternately, there is a long-running 35,000 mile offer with first year fee waived and 10,000 miles every anniversary:
Fee waived, no spend, US Airways Card, 35K (WIKI) Now dead - However, see that thread for 30k + 10k anniversary offer
(All offers with perpetual anniversary bonus are no longer available)
FAQ's
What will happen to this card when American and US Airways mileage plans are merged ?
The best information we has says that when that happens, Barclays will no longer be able to issue new cards, but your existing card will continue to be serviced by Barclays and become an American Airlines "red" credit card with benefits similar to the Citi AA Platinum card now issued (http://mommypoints.boardingarea.com/...erican-merger/)
Can I churn this card?
Yes
When can I apply for my 2nd/3rd/etc cards?
The general consensus is that you wait 6 months between applications with calling for recon significantly reducing your chances (better to get instant approval). YMMV. Note that in late 2014 there were several successful reports of people applying sooner than 6 months.
Do I have to close already existing accounts before applications for subsequent cards?
No but as always, YMMV
What's the reconsideration line number?
1-866-408-4064. Only open M-F, 8am-5pm Eastern time.
1-866-951-1437, After-hours (24/7)
When do the bonus miles post?
The annual fee will usually be charged in the first billing cycle. So assuming you made another purchase of at least $0.01 during the first billing cycle, the bonus miles will be credited to your account on the second billing cycle. If the AF doesn't post until the 2nd cycle, and you wait til the stmt. appears, your miles will not post until the 3rd cycle.
Key things to note with these new cards:
1. The previous cards waived the first year's annual fee and offered 10k for holding the card another year whereby the annual fee was charged. FTers, however, reported that Barclays did not clawback the 10k bonus after cancelling the card shortly after the AF posted.
2. The new cards' T&Cs this time explicitly state that the bonus will post upon payment of the AF (which is not waived) given that the fee isn't rescinded.
-Does this mean they will clawback the points?
Not enough data to confirm this
-If they don't plan to clawback the miles, how do they enforce the new terms?
They could, in theory, award the bonus after the period in which you could request a refund of the AF expires
Can I make a purchase and pre-pay the $89 AF prior to the first statement posting and receive the bonus miles?
Maybe. As of now, there are at least three data points stating this has been done successfully. Make a purchase of$0.01 $1 or more then use bill pay to make the payment and include the $89 AF (e.g. - a $1 purchase requires a $90 payment). If done correctly, the bonus miles (and the spend miles) will post on your first statement and to US Airways one day after the statement closes.
However, there are at least 2 reports (see #400) of having done the above and the AF did not bill in the first cycle (hence no posting of sign up bonus in that cycle). See the post for a possible explanation.
PLEASE POST if you applied again (FEB-APRIL, 2015), and after approval, ACTUALLY GOT the eligible bonus second time around after your approval and one time spend. That's really what peeps want to know.
*** Historical information follows: ***
Do not use a Preferred Application (10K Anniversay bonus) if you are not Preferred Elite. The reconsideration csr said as of December 11, 2014 the Preferred numbers are programmed in their computer and non-Preferred are immediately kicked out with no credit check. You cannot apply for any Barclays card for 30 days after rejection.
from the rejection letter I received:
The Dividend Miles number you provided on the application does not currently reflect a Preferred Status within the Dividend Miles program, and unfortunately this offer is only available to Dividend Miles members with Preferred Status. A credit report was not used in making this determination.
Note: If you are an existing cardholder of the older version of this card with a perpetual anniversary bonus, please ask account questions here:
[EXPIRED] Fee waived, US Airways Card, 30K + 10k @ anniversary
Check Application Status
Current offers:
There is a new (as of Dec. 4, 2014) public offer for 50,000 bonus miles after the first purchase, $89 annual fee is not waived:
http://www.worldgotbigger.com/us-airways-credit-card/
There is also an offer for 50k now and 10k at first anniversary, for preferred members only, reported by jrobinson5 in Post 935 - but see that post for the link and that user's difficulties with it.
Older offers that may still work:
50k Offers - There are individually targeted offers circulating for a 50k signup bonus. No one has yet identified a way to apply without actually receiving a personalized code from Barclays in advance.
40k miles after first purchase; $89 annual fee NOT waived [This is the standard public offer]
40k miles after first purchase plus 10k miles at first (and only first) anniversary; $89 annual fee NOT waived [Note: For"Preferred Members Only"; for similar offers, this has been sporadically enforced - see the anniversary miles thread below for historical data]
Fee waived, no spend, US Airways Card, 35K (WIKI) Now dead - However, see that thread for 30k + 10k anniversary offer
(All offers with perpetual anniversary bonus are no longer available)
FAQ's
What will happen to this card when American and US Airways mileage plans are merged ?
The best information we has says that when that happens, Barclays will no longer be able to issue new cards, but your existing card will continue to be serviced by Barclays and become an American Airlines "red" credit card with benefits similar to the Citi AA Platinum card now issued (http://mommypoints.boardingarea.com/...erican-merger/)
Can I churn this card?
Yes
When can I apply for my 2nd/3rd/etc cards?
The general consensus is that you wait 6 months between applications with calling for recon significantly reducing your chances (better to get instant approval). YMMV. Note that in late 2014 there were several successful reports of people applying sooner than 6 months.
Do I have to close already existing accounts before applications for subsequent cards?
No but as always, YMMV
What's the reconsideration line number?
1-866-408-4064. Only open M-F, 8am-5pm Eastern time.
1-866-951-1437, After-hours (24/7)
When do the bonus miles post?
The annual fee will usually be charged in the first billing cycle. So assuming you made another purchase of at least $0.01 during the first billing cycle, the bonus miles will be credited to your account on the second billing cycle. If the AF doesn't post until the 2nd cycle, and you wait til the stmt. appears, your miles will not post until the 3rd cycle.
Key things to note with these new cards:
1. The previous cards waived the first year's annual fee and offered 10k for holding the card another year whereby the annual fee was charged. FTers, however, reported that Barclays did not clawback the 10k bonus after cancelling the card shortly after the AF posted.
2. The new cards' T&Cs this time explicitly state that the bonus will post upon payment of the AF (which is not waived) given that the fee isn't rescinded.
-Does this mean they will clawback the points?
Not enough data to confirm this
-If they don't plan to clawback the miles, how do they enforce the new terms?
They could, in theory, award the bonus after the period in which you could request a refund of the AF expires
Can I make a purchase and pre-pay the $89 AF prior to the first statement posting and receive the bonus miles?
Maybe. As of now, there are at least three data points stating this has been done successfully. Make a purchase of
However, there are at least 2 reports (see #400) of having done the above and the AF did not bill in the first cycle (hence no posting of sign up bonus in that cycle). See the post for a possible explanation.
PLEASE POST if you applied again (FEB-APRIL, 2015), and after approval, ACTUALLY GOT the eligible bonus second time around after your approval and one time spend. That's really what peeps want to know.
[EXPIRED] Barclays US Airways CC offers [EXPIRED]
Jan 25, 2015, 3:03 pm
#1501
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 99
Just a data point - Got pended, will call recon tomorrow. Have the NFL card and recently closed barclays arrival card. Have had no activity on the NFL card for a long time. This was my third application in a mini AOR (first yesterday was amex for 50k points, then chase swa for 50k points) and now this.
UPDATE: Called recon, approved $10k loc. In retrospect, should have applied for barclays first before the other cards this round of apps.
UPDATE: Called recon, approved $10k loc. In retrospect, should have applied for barclays first before the other cards this round of apps.
Last edited by ymarker; Jan 26, 2015 at 8:13 am
Jan 25, 2015, 3:06 pm
#1502
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: IAH
Programs: DL DM, Hyatt Ist-iest, Stariott Platinum, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 12,790
Just a data point on getting the higher offer, I applied a few months ago under the old 40k bonus points offer. Called today and asked them to match to the 50k offer. They said they couldn't do that and gave me 2,500 points instead. Took it as it was better than nothing.
Also do we know when is the last possible time to apply for this card? I only got my US Airways card in Oct/Nov and would like to try for a 2nd but worry that it would be too soon now and would be instantly denied.
Also do we know when is the last possible time to apply for this card? I only got my US Airways card in Oct/Nov and would like to try for a 2nd but worry that it would be too soon now and would be instantly denied.
Last edited by krazykanuck; Jan 25, 2015 at 3:14 pm
Jan 25, 2015, 4:40 pm
#1503
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
I forgot that Barclays rounds up/down so anything $0.50 or higher should round up and generate the point/spend. I haven't seen any packs of gum for a quarter in some time now, so I just assumed it wouldn't be a problem. Can always buy a burger or other cheap fast food item on the way to/from work.
Why not just carry it in your wallet for a little while and give them a few purchases? Does it really cost you anything to spend a couple of hundred dollars on the card?
Jan 25, 2015, 4:45 pm
#1504
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
This is the first time I applied for credit card and get denied. My Equifax score is 837 and Transunion score is 790 which Barclays provided in a denied letter.
I have a high credit usage because I use some of my personal card for my business. I spent around $60K each month but I paid off every month and never late. I have several credit card but I put most of my spending on SPG and Chase Ink and Sapphire (personal).
Can I call to get a reconsideration after I got denied letter? Will I get denied if I apply for Citi or Chase next month? I was planning to apply for 3 credit cards this month but applied for Barclays first but when I did not get instant approve, so I did not continued to apply for the other credit card that I plan.
I have a high credit usage because I use some of my personal card for my business. I spent around $60K each month but I paid off every month and never late. I have several credit card but I put most of my spending on SPG and Chase Ink and Sapphire (personal).
Can I call to get a reconsideration after I got denied letter? Will I get denied if I apply for Citi or Chase next month? I was planning to apply for 3 credit cards this month but applied for Barclays first but when I did not get instant approve, so I did not continued to apply for the other credit card that I plan.
If your credit score is that high it shouldn't really be a problem but you can always reduce the utilization percentage by paying off the cards early (before the balance is reported)
Also, calling recon can't hurt. Just explain your situation and point out that you have never once had a late payment, so you are not over-extending.
Jan 25, 2015, 5:24 pm
#1505
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 4,166
I don't understand why people feel the need to go out of their way to abuse stuff like this. And then you wonder why you get turned down when you try to apply for a 2nd card or a different product.
Why not just carry it in your wallet for a little while and give them a few purchases? Does it really cost you anything to spend a couple of hundred dollars on the card?
Why not just carry it in your wallet for a little while and give them a few purchases? Does it really cost you anything to spend a couple of hundred dollars on the card?
Jan 26, 2015, 8:33 am
#1507
Suspended
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 313
Applied for second card while the first one was open, got a denied letter something along the lines " sufficient credit is available on Barcalys cards". I reduced my existing US airways card limit from $15K to $5k a day before applying. I called after getting the denial letter and before I make my case why i would need a second card, was shot down due to having existing US airways card. Is it something new?
Jan 26, 2015, 10:21 am
#1508
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: UA, AA, DL, IHG, HH
Posts: 5
Data points:
Wife: cancelled USAirways CC on 12/27/14 via secure message; applied 30 days later on 1/22. Instant approval.
Me: applied in October (10/19/14). Rejected for already having a USAirways card. Cancelled 1/7/15; applied 19 days later (1/26). Not instantly approved. Checked online and found it was denied. Called recon and was told that the app was automatically rejected (without a pull) because of the October rejection (she said something about it being automatic if within 90 days, but it has technically been 99 days since the previous app). Anyway, I authorized the pull and was then approved.
Wife: cancelled USAirways CC on 12/27/14 via secure message; applied 30 days later on 1/22. Instant approval.
Me: applied in October (10/19/14). Rejected for already having a USAirways card. Cancelled 1/7/15; applied 19 days later (1/26). Not instantly approved. Checked online and found it was denied. Called recon and was told that the app was automatically rejected (without a pull) because of the October rejection (she said something about it being automatic if within 90 days, but it has technically been 99 days since the previous app). Anyway, I authorized the pull and was then approved.
Jan 26, 2015, 10:49 am
#1509
Join Date: Feb 2006
Programs: HH Gold (again), US/UA/DL non-elite, ZE Presidents Circle, WN reluctant no fee convert.
Posts: 1,449
This is the first time I applied for credit card and get denied. My Equifax score is 837 and Transunion score is 790 which Barclays provided in a denied letter.
I have a high credit usage because I use some of my personal card for my business. I spent around $60K each month but I paid off every month and never late. I have several credit card but I put most of my spending on SPG and Chase Ink and Sapphire (personal).
Can I call to get a reconsideration after I got denied letter? Will I get denied if I apply for Citi or Chase next month? I was planning to apply for 3 credit cards this month but applied for Barclays first but when I did not get instant approve, so I did not continued to apply for the other credit card that I plan.
I have a high credit usage because I use some of my personal card for my business. I spent around $60K each month but I paid off every month and never late. I have several credit card but I put most of my spending on SPG and Chase Ink and Sapphire (personal).
Can I call to get a reconsideration after I got denied letter? Will I get denied if I apply for Citi or Chase next month? I was planning to apply for 3 credit cards this month but applied for Barclays first but when I did not get instant approve, so I did not continued to apply for the other credit card that I plan.
Seems to me if one pays off balances perfectly every month, there is a caveat somewhere.
There are cards that have the CU reports NOT after each cycle but rather at the beginning of the month. Supposedly that's DS and US Bank.
Jan 26, 2015, 12:14 pm
#1510
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
How long does it take points to post?
I understand that the sign-up bonus pts don't post until after you pay the annual fee. I was in no rush to get the pts to post (I'm not going to use them until the balances merge with AA) so I didn not pre-pay the annual fee before my statement closed.
However, my first statement closed on 1/12 and I have still not received the miles from the regular purchases. Is this normal? Do they wait until you pay to post the miles? (I have a payment en route). Most banks give you the points/miles as soon as the statement closes. I have never had a card from Barclay before so I don't know if they do things differently or not...
However, my first statement closed on 1/12 and I have still not received the miles from the regular purchases. Is this normal? Do they wait until you pay to post the miles? (I have a payment en route). Most banks give you the points/miles as soon as the statement closes. I have never had a card from Barclay before so I don't know if they do things differently or not...
Jan 26, 2015, 3:28 pm
#1511
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 244
I wouldn't say a lot. I got it back in July'14 before a trip.. used a little bit then and recently got an offer to spend $750 for three months for 15K bonus miles so was doing one swipe on this card to meet that requirement on Redbird .. other than that not much additional use ..
Since mine, wife got approved instantly as well .. it was her first card though..
Since mine, wife got approved instantly as well .. it was her first card though..
Last edited by neony77; Jan 26, 2015 at 6:07 pm Reason: typo
Jan 26, 2015, 9:06 pm
#1512
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 728
Applied for second card while the first one was open, got a denied letter something along the lines " sufficient credit is available on Barcalys cards". I reduced my existing US airways card limit from $15K to $5k a day before applying. I called after getting the denial letter and before I make my case why i would need a second card, was shot down due to having existing US airways card. Is it something new?
Jan 27, 2015, 8:02 am
#1513
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: ORD
Programs: AAdvantage, UA, Avios
Posts: 637
Data points:
Wife: cancelled USAirways CC on 12/27/14 via secure message; applied 30 days later on 1/22. Instant approval.
Me: applied in October (10/19/14). Rejected for already having a USAirways card. Cancelled 1/7/15; applied 19 days later (1/26). Not instantly approved. Checked online and found it was denied. Called recon and was told that the app was automatically rejected (without a pull) because of the October rejection (she said something about it being automatic if within 90 days, but it has technically been 99 days since the previous app). Anyway, I authorized the pull and was then approved.
Wife: cancelled USAirways CC on 12/27/14 via secure message; applied 30 days later on 1/22. Instant approval.
Me: applied in October (10/19/14). Rejected for already having a USAirways card. Cancelled 1/7/15; applied 19 days later (1/26). Not instantly approved. Checked online and found it was denied. Called recon and was told that the app was automatically rejected (without a pull) because of the October rejection (she said something about it being automatic if within 90 days, but it has technically been 99 days since the previous app). Anyway, I authorized the pull and was then approved.
Jan 27, 2015, 12:38 pm
#1514
Join Date: May 2005
Location: MIA/SJU/MCO
Programs: AA LT PLT; DL GLD, UA nothing, B6 Mosaic; Emerald Club Executive
Posts: 3,331
I just got off the phone with Barclays to try and get the 50k offer applied retroactively to my existing card (which got the 40k offer)... because why not?
No dice on that, however, they did offer a 10k mile bonus for $1k spend in 90 days. I can do that easily. So when I get back home, this card goes back in my wallet... behind another card, because it's ugly.
No dice on that, however, they did offer a 10k mile bonus for $1k spend in 90 days. I can do that easily. So when I get back home, this card goes back in my wallet... behind another card, because it's ugly.
Jan 27, 2015, 3:27 pm
#1515
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: UES/MWC
Programs: Braniff, TWA, Eastern, Midwest, AA Exec, Club Carlson Gold
Posts: 270
Well, paying those cards before the first of the month is then part of doing it "perfectly every month". I don't know about DS, but US Bank very definitely does this.