Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Credit, Debit and Prepaid Card Programs > Citi | ThankYou Rewards
Reload this Page >

Citi AA credit cards, except Executive. (2013-2014)

Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Old Jun 13, 2013, 2:57 pm
FlyerTalk Forums Expert How-Tos and Guides
Last edit by: mia
This wiki is no longer being maintained/updated.

See the new thread & wiki at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi-...24-months.html.

* * *


SEE NEW THREAD - 50K AA Cards


As of Sunday August 25, 2013:
Reports indicate personal cards can no longer be rapidly churned.

Click HERE to review the previous thread on this topic.

Recommended Application Procedure:
Clear cache and cookies prior to applying or use an incognito or private browsing session to apply. Opening multiple different apps in different windows or tabs or failing to clear cookies/cache has resulted in people receiving a lesser offer.

For information on the Executive version of this card, with $450 annual fee, not waived, see: Up to 100k miles Citi Executive AAdvantage offers

MOST CURRENT 50K LINKS:

Citi Personal and Business:50K miles & two Admirals Club one-day passes after $3000 spend in 3 months, $95 fee waived first year.

Citi AA Platinum Personal Mastercard, 50,000 miles after $3k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here. This is a CHIP and Signature card.

Landing page for 50K Business and Personal MC requires $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to the following application pages:
Landing page for 50K Business and Personal MC after $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to the following application pages:
Landing page for 50K Business and Personal MC after $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to the following application pages:
Landing page for 50K Business MC after $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to this application page.

OTHER PERSONAL CARDS

Citi Platinum Select Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Up to $100 statement credit for AA purchases. Landing page available here.

Citi Platinum Select Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year.

Citi Gold Mastercard. 25,000 miles after $750 spend in 3 months. $50 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here

If you are already a Citigold customer, read this post from the Miles Professor about another 50K offer from your branch office for the American Airlines credit card.

OTHER BUSINESS CARDS

Citi Business MasterCard. 40,000 miles after $3k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here.

Citi Business Mastercard. 35,000 miles after $1.5k spend in 3 months.

Citi Business Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here.

Citi Business Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Up to $100 statement credit for AA purchases. Landing page available here.


Citibank Contacts/Resources (Please add the others that you know)
  • Application status: https://www.accountonline.com/cards/...?screenID=3187
  • (800) 695-5171 – Personal Application Status and Reconsideration Line with live rep
  • (800) 763-9795 – General Personal Application Inquiries with live rep
  • (800) 645-7240 – Business Application Status and Reconsideration Line, dial option 3 then option 1 for application status
  • (800) 288-4653 – Business Application Status and Reconsideration Line, dial option 3 then option 1 for application status
  • (866) 606-2787 – General Application and Account Questions with live rep
  • (888) 201-4523 – Application status
  • (866) 606-2961 – Reconsideration Line.
  • Twitter : @AskCiti. Very powerful tool.
  • Executive Office - useful for getting a more empowered agent for reconsideration purposes: CitiBank Executive Review Department, P.O. Box 6000, Sioux Falls, SD 57117

FAQ
  1. Are these AA cards churnable?
  2. What are the most current time-restriction rules in applying for all Citi cards?
  3. Do I need to close existing cards before applying?
  4. When should I close existing Citi accounts?
  5. Can I apply for a business card if I don’t have a business?
  6. Can I buy Visa gift cards to meet my minimum spend?
  7. Do I get 10% back when redeeming miles for awards?
  8. Do I have to use my own AAdvantage number on applications?
  9. There is nothing on the application page stating the bonus miles. How do I know what I will be getting?
  10. When will my bonus miles post?
  11. I met the minimum spend. Why does my statement say "Miles Reported to AA: 0"?
  12. Can I cancel a card using secure messaging?
  13. I activated the card online and got a message about this card replacing an old card. What does that mean?
  14. Which credit bureau does Citi pull and can I force them to use a different one?

1. Are these AA cards churnable?
Yes and No. The general rules are:
  • Personal AA cards: As of August 25, 2013 all linked personal AA cards in this thread can be churned only after Citi decides that you are no longer an existing cardmember. This usually occurs between 12 and 26 months after your last successful AA personal card approval of any type including AA Executive card(s). If you want both a Platinum card and an Executive AA card and are eligible under the 12-26 month rule, get the Platinum card first or the Executive card will restart the clock. Although it is not a hard-and-fast rule, 18 months after previous approval is the most common. YMMV. You do not need to cancel old personal cards.
    • Note: You cannot circumvent this rule by applying for a card type different from your previous Citi AA card. If your last personal AA card was a Visa, the waiting period for your next personal AA card will be the same regardless of whether you apply for a Visa, MC, or Amex.

  • Business AA cards: have been churnable repeatedly by some people without restriction other than the general Citi application rules. Apply once every 91-95 days. For unknown reasons, some other people have been unable to churn business cards at all. Also, some (but not all) people need to completely cancel their previous business card (ie, cancel both the card account and the associated master account) before they can apply for another business card.

    Note: If you encounter difficulty in obtaining a Citi AA business card after holding one before, it may because of the unusual way Citi sets up business accounts. The business account per se has its own master number; like a standard MC/Visa, this master account number is 16 digits. In addition, each card on the account has its own 16-digit card number. Each of these numbers, including the number for the primary cardholder, is different from the master account number.

    Sometimes, when you call to close your card account, all the card numbers are canceled but the master account remains open. When this happens, subsequent applications for a business card may encounter difficulty. Online, there should be a dropdown of accounts under your business login; the number that match your card number is your card account, the number that does not match your card number is your master account. When cancelling, ask to cancel both accounts, giving the last 4 digts of each (as shown in that dropdown).


2. What are the most current time-restriction rules in applying for all Citi cards?
  • Only 1 Citi application of any kind per week (8 days to be safe).
  • No more than 2 Citi applications of any kind in 60 days (65 days to be safe).
  • No more than 1 Citi business application in 90 days (95 to be safe). This does not override the rules above.

While the day limits are a little flexible by a few days either way and YMMV, the rules themselves are not flexible. Note: In applying the rules above, count all Citi applications, including denials and/or applications for non-AA cards.

Mixed type Example:
Day 1 60K HHonors Visa
Day 9 or later 50K Personal Platinum Visa
Day 66 or later 50K Business #1
Day 74 or later 60K Executive
Day 161 or later 50K Business #2
18 Months, 74 days or later 50K Personal Platinum Visa

Not sure what day you applied? The date is written year, month, day in the application number: 201402280000 means you applied on Feb 28, 2014


3. Do I need to close existing cards before applying?
No. There is no requirement that you close previous personal accounts. People have reported having 4 or more of the exact same card. However, many people have reported problems getting AA Business cards if they have an open Business account.


4. When should I close existing Citi accounts?
This is a matter of personal preference. Citi cards can be closed immediately after receiving a bonus and paying off the balance. There are no verifiable reports of Citi clawing back miles (exception - miles were clawed back for returned merchandise around November 2011).

Reasons to keep accounts open:
  • Having large credit lines improves your utilization percentage.
  • Maintaining old cards improves average age of cards.
  • Credit lines can be moved from old cards to new cards.
  • Anecdotal evidence suggests that Citi counts the credit lines of recently-closed accounts for 3-6 months against your total available credit.
  • You can receive retention offers once every 6 months per card. See this thread for details on the latest retention offers.

Reasons to close accounts:
  • Having a large amount of available credit with Citi will eventually reduce your chances of instant approval. Your application will automatically be reviewed if your CL's total 75K or more. This may also result in a large disparity between existing account CL's and new CL's, such as 20K, 20K and 1K for a new card, as an example.
  • There is little incentive to pay an annual fee if it is not waived.
  • The annual fee on Business cards is rarely waived.
  • Having a large number of open Citi cards will show up on your credit report and may affect non-Citi applications as well as the overall age of your accounts.


5. Can I apply for a business card if I don’t have a business?
Anyone can apply for a business card. You do not need a registered business with an EIN. If you do not have a business with an EIN or with bills/accounts in the business name, you can apply using your name as the business. The three possibilities are that: 1. You could be approved unconditionally, 2. You could be asked to fax a couple of bills or accounts (water, electricity, gas, cable, or phone bills, bank accounts, etc.) in the name of the business to Citi, or 3. You could be required to fill out and send a 4506-T tax form. Whatever you do do not make up income etc. about the business. Plenty of people have been issued cards for businesses with $0 annual revenue, 1-5 employees, and 0 years in business.


6. Can I buy Visa gift cards to meet my minimum spend?
Purchases from banks are almost always coded as a cash advance regardless of what they are for. Purchases from stores, e.g. CVS, are almost always coded as a purchase.
If you are concerned about it, it’s recommended to send a secure message Citi and have them set your Cash Advance limit to zero. Phone CSRs often say they can not do this.


7. Do I get 10% back when redeeming miles for awards?
It depends. First, the rebate program (which began in April 2012) applies only to holders of these cards:
  • Citi Platinum Select AAdvantage Visa Signature
  • Citi Platinum Select AAdvantage World MasterCard
  • Citi Platinum Select AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard
  • Citi Select AAdvantage American Express
It does not apply to the Citi Gold World MasterCard, Citi Executive products, or some of the Citi Business cards.

Also, the maximum rebate for any cardholder in a single calendar year is 10,000 miles. Having more than one qualifying Citi AA card will not allow you to receive a larger rebate; the restriction applies per AAdvantage account.

For more on the 10% rebate benefit, see Citi 10% miles back / rebate for reward redemption.


8. Do I have to use my own AAdvantage number on applications?
Yes. The name on the card application must match the name on the AAdvantage account. You cannot apply for multiple cards for different people and use the same AAdvantage account number. AA does not care or even know how many Citi accounts you have so there is no harm in having your AAdvantage account number associated with multiple cards in your name. If you forget to add your AAdvantage account number to your application, an AAdvantage account in your name will be created and can later be merged with your existing account by calling AA.


9. There is nothing on the application page stating the bonus miles. How do I know what I will be getting?
You need to have faith in the people here if you want to maximize your miles. The people on this board constantly apply for these cards and report back what they are told are the benefits and what they actually receive. The way Citi works is that if you are approved for a card, you will get the bonus associated with the link you applied under as long as you make the minimum spend. It does not matter if you already had the card or anything else. If you are approved - then you get the bonus. The two exceptions to this are: 1. If you fail to clear your cache and accidentally load a cached application, you get the miles associated with that application and 2. Some people have recently succeeded in 'bumping the bonus' by contacting Citi and requesting a match to a 50K offer after applying for a 40K card. If you don't feel like trusting in the experiences of others, then apply for an offer with a landing page.


10. When will my bonus miles post?
Two working days after the date of the statement containing the charge that takes you across the spend threshold. It posts overnight, it'll be there when you check your AAdvantage account in the morning.


11. I met the minimum spend. Why does my statement say "Miles Reported to AA: 0"?
No one knows exactly why this is happening to some people (Citi blames AA, AA blames Citi, and both blame the merger). It supposedly has something to do with the time it takes them to properly link your AAdvantage number to your card. There are two ways to deal with this:
  • Wait 1-2 statement periods, and see if the points post on their own. Per Citi, it can take this long for the accounts to link.
  • Call AA (1-800-882-8880) and open a case about it. Most people have had their miles post within 2 weeks of doing this.

For ongoing discussion, see Some AA Citi Card miles not transferred to AAdvantage accounts [Q3 2013 - Q1 2014]


12. Can I cancel a card using secure messaging?
Yes, assuming you have set up the credit card in your Citi account. Quick and easy.


13. I activated the card online and got a message about this card replacing an old card. What does that mean?
When activating cards online, Citi normally displays the text:

"This account replaces your old account, which is now closed. Statements for your old account will be available for up to 6 months. Your current account summary and unbilled transactions are now listed under your new account number."
This is normal and is supposed to be displayed when activating a replacement card but it seems to display even when activating a brand new card. This is nothing to worry about.


14. Which credit bureau does Citi pull and can I force them to use a different one?
Citi appears to use Experian most frequently, followed by Equifax. For some people they pull both. It depends on where you are located. You can check the Credit Boards database to see where card issuers have pulled recently.

For the most part, freezing Experian, or another bureau, will not cause Citi to pull a different bureau. They will almost certainly require you to unfreeze the bureau they wish to pull or deny your application. Some people have been successful providing the PIN but others have not. Mostly, freezing a credit bureau in an attempt to force Citi to pull a different one seems to waste time, money, and effort for little result. But YMMV.

For one person's experiences with various card issuers, check here.


For rules and info on any offers that include Admirals club passes or statement credits, see here.
Print Wikipost

Citi AA credit cards, except Executive. (2013-2014)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 6, 2013, 8:50 am
  #121  
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 4,166
Originally Posted by ctruzzi
Thought as much, how long will I have to wait to reapply for it? The 65 days?
1 card per day, 2 apps per 65 days. Live and learn
Superorb is offline  
Old Jun 6, 2013, 11:34 am
  #122  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Madison, WI, USA
Posts: 14,162
I just applied for, and was approved for through Chat, the Citi Platinum Select Mastercard. So now I will have 2 Citi AA Visas, 1 Citi AA AmEx and 1 Citi AA MC. We'll see if I get the 40,000 miles in a few months after I make spend. Just got the 50,000 miles for the AmEx.

Added data points:

Applied for Amex 18 Mar, received miles
Applied for Visa 14 May, will finish spend this month
Applied for MC 06 June, approved

Last edited by PaulMSN; Jun 6, 2013 at 11:45 am
PaulMSN is offline  
Old Jun 6, 2013, 5:24 pm
  #123  
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: IL
Posts: 270
Here is a landing page for platinum visa 40k w/ 5k spend, 1st AF waived and $100 statement credit after first AA purchase (other links had after 30k spend)
http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/ea...isa_ccpage.jsp
zozeppelin is offline  
Old Jun 7, 2013, 2:22 am
  #124  
 
Join Date: May 2011
Programs: Spg Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 1,578
Originally Posted by PaulMSN
I just applied for, and was approved for through Chat, the Citi Platinum Select Mastercard. So now I will have 2 Citi AA Visas, 1 Citi AA AmEx and 1 Citi AA MC. We'll see if I get the 40,000 miles in a few months after I make spend. Just got the 50,000 miles for the AmEx.

Added data points:

Applied for Amex 18 Mar, received miles
Applied for Visa 14 May, will finish spend this month
Applied for MC 06 June, approved

Was this your second time for each ?
PETERPNYC is offline  
Old Jun 7, 2013, 7:17 am
  #125  
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 17
Hi, can a husband and wife have 1 American Airline mile account?

Then can they both receive their own cards + bonuses?

Thank you!
madwad123 is offline  
Old Jun 7, 2013, 7:35 am
  #126  
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Programs: Airline Free Agent, Fairmont Lifetime Platinum, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Honors Diamond
Posts: 3,041
Originally Posted by madwad123
Hi, can a husband and wife have 1 American Airline mile account?

Then can they both receive their own cards + bonuses?

Thank you!
Husband gets own AA account.
Wife gets own AA account

Husband gets Citi AA cards with own AA#
Wife gets Citi AA cards w/ own AA#

Double miles--->More travel----->Marital bliss

If you do not pay full balance every month

The only bliss is by Citibank
gpapadop is offline  
Old Jun 7, 2013, 7:42 am
  #127  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Platinum, Hilton Honors Diamond, Delta Gold
Posts: 4,347
Originally Posted by PaulMSN
I just applied for, and was approved for through Chat, the Citi Platinum Select Mastercard. So now I will have 2 Citi AA Visas, 1 Citi AA AmEx and 1 Citi AA MC. We'll see if I get the 40,000 miles in a few months after I make spend. Just got the 50,000 miles for the AmEx.

Added data points:

Applied for Amex 18 Mar, received miles
Applied for Visa 14 May, will finish spend this month
Applied for MC 06 June, approved
In the T&Cs on the landing page for the 40k Platinum MC offer it says "This Citi® / AAdvantage® card offer is only valid for new applicants for a Citi® / AAdvantage® account made pursuant to this offer and is not available to existing cardmembers or recent applicants for a Citi® / AAdvantage® credit card. "

Based on the above posters datapoints, I'm assuming this T&C is referring to a particular type of AAdvantage card (i.e. MC or Visa or Amex) and if you have Visa and Amex you can still get this MC, but if you already have MC you can't get this? Is my assumption correct? (And pardon if this has already been asked.)
friedablass is offline  
Old Jun 7, 2013, 10:53 am
  #128  
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 96
Originally Posted by friedablass
In the T&Cs on the landing page for the 40k Platinum MC offer it says "This Citi® / AAdvantage® card offer is only valid for new applicants for a Citi® / AAdvantage® account made pursuant to this offer and is not available to existing cardmembers or recent applicants for a Citi® / AAdvantage® credit card. "

Based on the above posters datapoints, I'm assuming this T&C is referring to a particular type of AAdvantage card (i.e. MC or Visa or Amex) and if you have Visa and Amex you can still get this MC, but if you already have MC you can't get this? Is my assumption correct? (And pardon if this has already been asked.)
All AA cards include language about the offers only being for new or first time applicants. For the platinum level cards (maybe other levels too), the reality was one could get approved for new AA cards on average every 18 months. Historically (as in prior to mid Feb 2013), to get multiple platinum level personal cards people would apply for 2 at the same time.

However, many of Citi's rules have changed recently including the limitation on how long one needs to wait to apply for a card from the same product line. I don't think the bank affiliation (MC, Visa, or Amex) has any bearing on Citi's product levels which I believe are Business, Executive, Platinum (aka Select), and Gold.

The jury is out on how often one can be approved now for cards from the same product level. Recent reports have mentioned people being approved for separate platinum cards just a few months apart, so I figured I would give it a shot too.

In late Feb 2013, I was approved for a Select Amex (platinum level) and a Gold MC. Today, I was approved for a Platinum Visa. In addition to these personal cards, I also got a business card last month.
bksmm is offline  
Old Jun 7, 2013, 10:59 am
  #129  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Platinum, Hilton Honors Diamond, Delta Gold
Posts: 4,347
Originally Posted by bksmm
All AA cards include language about the offers only being for new or first time applicants.
Right, but the one I quoted above from Platinum MC is more of a blanket one than say, the following one from Platinum Visa: "Card Offer: This Citi® / AAdvantage® card offer is valid only for new Citi® Platinum Select® / AAdvantage® Visa Signature® card accounts pursuant to this offer and excludes any other Citi® / AAdvantage® credit cards offered."

It specifies that it has to be for a new Platinum Visa account which to me means that if I already have Platinum MC I can get this Visa without a problem.
friedablass is offline  
Old Jun 7, 2013, 2:10 pm
  #130  
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 225
Can someone post a link for the 40k biz card? I just want to make sure I am applying for the right one as none of the landing pages appear to be working. thanks
mensday is offline  
Old Jun 7, 2013, 5:59 pm
  #131  
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 9
Originally Posted by bksmm
All AA cards include language about the offers only being for new or first time applicants. For the platinum level cards (maybe other levels too), the reality was one could get approved for new AA cards on average every 18 months. Historically (as in prior to mid Feb 2013), to get multiple platinum level personal cards people would apply for 2 at the same time.

However, many of Citi's rules have changed recently including the limitation on how long one needs to wait to apply for a card from the same product line. I don't think the bank affiliation (MC, Visa, or Amex) has any bearing on Citi's product levels which I believe are Business, Executive, Platinum (aka Select), and Gold.

The jury is out on how often one can be approved now for cards from the same product level. Recent reports have mentioned people being approved for separate platinum cards just a few months apart, so I figured I would give it a shot too.

In late Feb 2013, I was approved for a Select Amex (platinum level) and a Gold MC. Today, I was approved for a Platinum Visa. In addition to these personal cards, I also got a business card last month.
My 1st post here anyway. A great reference for me. I was approved for both a Select Amex (Pt Lv) and a Visa Signature (2 broswer-trick) in Jan 2013. I'm planning to churn a Gold for a 30K w/ $750 spent.
JimboWong is offline  
Old Jun 7, 2013, 6:39 pm
  #132  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 433
Used the link for the Gold card 30,000 mile offer and got it yesterday.

Does this card offer the 10% mileage back or the $100 or %150 AA credit ?

Thanks in advance.
rover4618 is offline  
Old Jun 7, 2013, 6:53 pm
  #133  
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,528
Originally Posted by rover4618
Used the link for the Gold card 30,000 mile offer and got it yesterday.

Does this card offer the 10% mileage back or the $100 or %150 AA credit ?

Thanks in advance.
This is typically only a feature of the platinum (or better) cards
nall is offline  
Old Jun 7, 2013, 7:18 pm
  #134  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 433
Originally Posted by nall
This is typically only a feature of the platinum (or better) cards
Tnx nall
rover4618 is offline  
Old Jun 8, 2013, 9:08 am
  #135  
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 7
One additional data point here: I applied & got both business and personal AA Visa cards back in Feb. (40k points, $150 credit, 2x AC passes - don't remember which link exactly, or whether credit was "up to" or not.) Made two in-flight purchases on April. Never received statement credit in any amount. Both purchases showed up on my bill as "AA Inflight". I've called CS three times - each time, the CS rep seemed to think the purchase had to be a plane ticket, and speaking to a supervisor corrected that notion. Each time, I was told it I should have received the statement credits, but that it may take "up to two statement cycles" to see the credit, and that I should call back. (The later calls expanded on this to say that the first statement cycle didn't count toward the two cycles.) A message sent by the CS rep to the dept. that handles promotional credits produced only the response, "This charge is ineligible."

It's now unambiguously more than two cycles later. My most recent CS call, two days ago, again ended with a supervisor who was stumped as to why the credit hadn't been applied. This supe (for the business card) was very friendly and helpful, offering to call me back personally after researching it with her contacts within the organization. So far, no call though. We'll see what happens.
meeotch is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.