Oct 18, 2013, 8:43 am
Last edit by: pgary
50,000-mile offer
Earn 20,000 miles after your first purchase and payment of the annual fee,
then an additional 30,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days.
60,000-mile offer:
Same as the above 50K offer, except an additional 40,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days. To see this obscure obscure offers details, scroll down to Welcome Bonus in the T&C.
Earn 20,000 miles after your first purchase and payment of the annual fee,
then an additional 30,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days.
- $89 annual fee, not waived
- no foreign transaction fees
- annual companion ticket
- 2 Lufthansa Business Lounge vouchers annually
60,000-mile offer:
Same as the above 50K offer, except an additional 40,000 award miles after you make $5,000 in purchases w/in first 90 days. To see this obscure obscure offers details, scroll down to Welcome Bonus in the T&C.
Barclays (USA) Lufthansa MasterCard - Revived - 50K after $5K spend
Jun 27, 2013, 8:12 pm
#151
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: HNL
Posts: 781
Success after 2nd recon call (and a second pull)! Applied in May and was eventually denied. I currently have a VX and US card with them. Called recon in May and was told that they like my credit, etc. but are unable to extend additional credit to me at this time.
Went on a long vacation and just returned, itching to get more miles and I though I just couldn't let this one go without one more call. Second recon call today and I got a very helpful guy who asked for explanations on why so many apps/cancellations in the past year, but also pointed out that they were happy that I regularly used my VX card. He had to do another credit pull due to the amount of time that had passed, but was able to approve me soon after.
Tried the same thing for my wife who happens to have 3 Barclays cards currently open and was quickly denied for the 2nd time based on the notes previously on file from the 1st recon call.
Oh well, 50% is better than nothing and it'll get us much closer to our next trip to Australia.
Went on a long vacation and just returned, itching to get more miles and I though I just couldn't let this one go without one more call. Second recon call today and I got a very helpful guy who asked for explanations on why so many apps/cancellations in the past year, but also pointed out that they were happy that I regularly used my VX card. He had to do another credit pull due to the amount of time that had passed, but was able to approve me soon after.
Tried the same thing for my wife who happens to have 3 Barclays cards currently open and was quickly denied for the 2nd time based on the notes previously on file from the 1st recon call.
Oh well, 50% is better than nothing and it'll get us much closer to our next trip to Australia.
Jun 28, 2013, 11:59 am
#152
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 267
I was interested in both Barclays Cards, Miles&Mores + Arrival, instantly approved the first, the second one was pending, Called recon and shot down for the second one. Before applying, I had 1 USAirways cancelled this Jan (no churn record on this card). Possible to get 2 cards approved during 1 day? Thanks
Jun 30, 2013, 8:49 am
#153
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 86
I will say this, after getting 3 instant approvals for various airline cards for the wife (turned into a mini-AOR) I tried this one with her and she had a denial listed on the check application status the next day. That has never happened, usually it takes a good 5+ business days before I see an approval or rejection. I wouldn't be suprised if the denial letter cites what you're saying. (I'll make note if it does, otherwise just assume it was b/c of too much new card activity because I bet that's what it is!)
Jun 30, 2013, 9:01 am
#154
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,344
It seems that if you apply and don't get instantly approved it will be harder to get the card. At that point you roll the dice with either calling recon and having a credit pull or letting the "pending decision" take its 7-10 days at which point you will get a denial letter with no credit pull.
Jun 30, 2013, 4:51 pm
#155
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 371
Thanks for the nice summary.
So probably good to get one or two Barclay cards..
So probably good to get one or two Barclay cards..
I think the lessons here are...
1. If you're going try and game the system, be sure you get your Barclays card(s) early in your app-o-rama history. If you're like many here, and you've been routinely churning chase, citi & amex cards with positive results, then you turn your attention to Barclays, you'll probably be OK getting your first and maybe your second card (of any type) from Barclays, but getting each subsequent card from Barclays will become increasingly unlikely or impossible. Getting a 2nd or 3rd copy of the same kind of Barclays card that you have also seems to crank up the difficulty a bit more.
2. If you've been churning other cards, you can try to "cool it" for a while in hopes of making approval more likely for your next barclay card, but you're probably going to need to be more patient than you think. Sitting it out (or "only getting one or two cards") during a few months doesn't look like it will move Barclays much - they seem to be scrutinizing your record going back 12 or maybe 24 months and counting the cards you've opened. So "sitting it out" may require sitting it out for a full year or more (which many of us find difficult).
3. It just may not be worth it. Yeah, you could check out for 18-24 months and let your credit report completely cool down to the point where Barclays is happy to extend a new card to you, but during that time you would be forgoing a lot of lucrative offers from other issuers. How badly do you really want that Barclays card?
4. Barclays ain't Chase (or Amex or Citi or BoA). They seem to operate quite differently, and you definitely should not expect your previous experience with other issuers to predict how Barclays will behave.
This is not an exact science. There are exceptions (both ways). We're all just making guesses. But I think the above points do seem to be generally true for most people.
1. If you're going try and game the system, be sure you get your Barclays card(s) early in your app-o-rama history. If you're like many here, and you've been routinely churning chase, citi & amex cards with positive results, then you turn your attention to Barclays, you'll probably be OK getting your first and maybe your second card (of any type) from Barclays, but getting each subsequent card from Barclays will become increasingly unlikely or impossible. Getting a 2nd or 3rd copy of the same kind of Barclays card that you have also seems to crank up the difficulty a bit more.
2. If you've been churning other cards, you can try to "cool it" for a while in hopes of making approval more likely for your next barclay card, but you're probably going to need to be more patient than you think. Sitting it out (or "only getting one or two cards") during a few months doesn't look like it will move Barclays much - they seem to be scrutinizing your record going back 12 or maybe 24 months and counting the cards you've opened. So "sitting it out" may require sitting it out for a full year or more (which many of us find difficult).
3. It just may not be worth it. Yeah, you could check out for 18-24 months and let your credit report completely cool down to the point where Barclays is happy to extend a new card to you, but during that time you would be forgoing a lot of lucrative offers from other issuers. How badly do you really want that Barclays card?
4. Barclays ain't Chase (or Amex or Citi or BoA). They seem to operate quite differently, and you definitely should not expect your previous experience with other issuers to predict how Barclays will behave.
This is not an exact science. There are exceptions (both ways). We're all just making guesses. But I think the above points do seem to be generally true for most people.
Oct 17, 2013, 12:02 pm
#157
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: NYC: UA 1K, DL Platinum, AAirpass, Avis PC
Posts: 4,599
Offer has returned with a December 15, 2013 expiration this time around
http://www.miles-and-more.com/online...en&cid=1000390
Same terms as before.
http://www.miles-and-more.com/online...en&cid=1000390
Same terms as before.
Oct 17, 2013, 1:49 pm
#158
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 17,417
We applied for the Arrivals card this summer and got rejected -- too many credit card apps they said. I tried calling for reconsideration, and it was a no-go.
We routinely get approved for all the non-Barclays cards, probably 1 app per month per person.
So now I don't know what to do. Our US Airways cards are gone (cancelled when annual fee was billed) and we only have the NFL cards, which we'll cancel at x-mas. Any downside to trying again for a Barclays card and what are our odds? BTW, I wouldn't apply for this one: the Airways and Arrivals cards are more practical. And it sure doesn't look like Barclays will approve us for all of them!
Oct 17, 2013, 4:47 pm
#160
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Berlin
Programs: BA Gold; Accor Plat; IHG Diamond-Amb; Meliá & HH & Marriott Gold
Posts: 5,450
Oct 17, 2013, 10:26 pm
#162
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 6
Lufthansa Premier Miles & More Mastercard 50k offer - 3 Free First Class 1-Way Domest
This sounds like a good deal - 50k points good for 3 free 1 way domestic first class tickets. I just applied, never used Lufthansa miles before.
Last edited by mia; Oct 18, 2013 at 8:39 am Reason: Remove referral link. Scroll back to post 157 for direct link.
Oct 17, 2013, 11:27 pm
#163
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Montréal
Programs: Air Canada, Hyatt
Posts: 1,376
Oct 17, 2013, 11:52 pm
#164
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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Posts: 29,561
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On domestic (U.S.) award tickets?
On domestic (U.S.) award tickets?