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- What are the most current working links?
- Is this card churnable?
- How frequently can I apply for these cards?
- Do I have to close my previous card before reapplying?
- I got the 60K card and bonus but when I finished the spend on my second 60K card I did not get the bonus. What happened?
[1] What are the most current working links?
There is a standard offer for 50K points after $1K spend in 4 months. (No landing page is available for this offer; lnik taken from wiki for http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi-...amex-citi.html.)
There are no known 60K offers available. The most recent one expired in late September 2014.
[2] Is this card churnable?
In the past, this card has been easily churnable. However, in December 2014 Citi began inserting language into some applications and landing pages disqualifying current Hilton Visa cardholders & requiring an 18-month wait from the date of the previous card's cancellation. The application link listed above does not include this restriction, and FTers have confirmed that they have been approved through this application despite being current or recent holders of another Citi Hilton card.
[3] How frequently can I apply for these cards?
You can only apply for ONE Citi card in a week or TWO in two months (60 days). To be safe, it is frequently suggested to wait 8+ days between ANY two Citi applications and 65+ days until your third Citi application of ANY kind. These are rolling dates, so you have to wait at least 60 days (65+) from your second application to your 4th applications, and so forth.
If math is not your strong suit, you can use: http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html.
Example:
Day 0 - Citi HHonors Card #1
Day 8 - Citi AA Personal Card
Day 65 - Citi AA Business Card
Day 73 - Citi HHonors Card #2
Day 130 - Citi TY Card
[4] Do I have to close my previous card before reapplying?
Not if you use the application link above. As stated above, in December 2014 Citi began introducing new application pages requiring an 18-month wait since cancellation of the prior card.
Note that when you close an account, Citi may not "free up" the credit limit from that card for as long as 6 months. So if you're going to apply within 6 months, it's better to not cancel beforehand.
[5] I got the 60K card and bonus but when I finished the spend on my second 60K card I did not get the bonus. What happened?
There appears to be a problem with Citi crediting you with both bonuses but Hilton not crediting the second bonus because their system sees it as a duplicate.
You need to open up a case, preferably with Hilton, and explain that you have two separate cards (feel free to explain one is for business and one for personal if they ask why you have multiple cards and you feel like explaining). You also need to diligently check back with them and make sure that they do not close the case as you already got the bonus.
This is very much a YMMV situation. Depending on who you talk to and where, this can be a relatively short process or a particularly unpleasant and long one. Best advice: Be nice to the CSRs and get them on your side or HUACA until you find someone useful.
For some people it may be worth getting the 50K card instead, possibly trying to "bump the bonus" to 60K and getting it as a 10K adjustment instead.
Citi Hilton HHonors Visa [2011-2014]
#1067
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Melbourne, Florida, USA
Posts: 2,978
well, I wish they would've told me I was getting the gold card either when they approvedc my application, the follow up email, or the snail mail they sent me a few days before the actual card. sigh
if they tell me I get very little points is there even a point in keeping the card?
if they tell me I get very little points is there even a point in keeping the card?
#1068
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: PVG
Programs: BA, LM // HH, CP
Posts: 216
okay. thanks for the heads-up
i'll make the call now and see what i get
Edit: Made the call, everything seems to be the same, even the 50k point bonus. it's missing concierge service and going over budget or something.....
but at least the points are there =]
i'll make the call now and see what i get
Edit: Made the call, everything seems to be the same, even the 50k point bonus. it's missing concierge service and going over budget or something.....
but at least the points are there =]
Last edited by imslippy; Nov 11, 2012 at 10:21 am
#1070
Formerly known as cagalindo
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: MCO TPA
Programs: Citi AA/HH/TYP Amex SPG/HH & Chase SP/PC
Posts: 1,335
#1072
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: LAS, MPL
Programs: DL Platinum, 1 MM
Posts: 1,319
Just applied with the two links in post 468, instant approval for both. I now have 3 HH visa, 1 AA amex, and 1 AA business visa with city, each with a $20K(!!??) credit lien - I think I better cool it for while with city.
#1073
Join Date: Sep 2011
Programs: SPG Gold, HH Gold, Marriott Silver
Posts: 173
Worth it to send in tax form for second card?
So I applied for the Amex and 2 citi hhonors cards last week. I was instantly approved for the Amex and had to call citi. Citi needed to verify my ssn, they said I entered the wrong ssn on the app-highly unlikely I think the problem was in their app. Anyway they got it settled and I was approved so I hung up and applied again. This app said it needed further review so I called again. They said they could not approve the second app and I would have to wait. So I waited a few days and called back and was told I was sent a form I would have to submit. Well this turned out to be an IRS form authorizing them to access my return, now I have zero problem with that but---it also says I authorize them to pull my credit again.
I had a similar situation where I was denied the citi biz aadvantage card and had to submit docs and they ended up approving the card but in total it took two months and they pulled my credit report 3 times.
I just don't think it's worth all the hassle to go through to get the second card and 50k Hilton points. What so you all think? Should I drop it? Will not sending the form cause problems with my next citi app?
I had a similar situation where I was denied the citi biz aadvantage card and had to submit docs and they ended up approving the card but in total it took two months and they pulled my credit report 3 times.
I just don't think it's worth all the hassle to go through to get the second card and 50k Hilton points. What so you all think? Should I drop it? Will not sending the form cause problems with my next citi app?
#1074
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SFO
Programs: United 1P, SPG Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 76
So I applied for the Amex and 2 citi hhonors cards last week. I was instantly approved for the Amex and had to call citi. Citi needed to verify my ssn, they said I entered the wrong ssn on the app-highly unlikely I think the problem was in their app. Anyway they got it settled and I was approved so I hung up and applied again. This app said it needed further review so I called again. They said they could not approve the second app and I would have to wait. So I waited a few days and called back and was told I was sent a form I would have to submit. Well this turned out to be an IRS form authorizing them to access my return, now I have zero problem with that but---it also says I authorize them to pull my credit again.
I had a similar situation where I was denied the citi biz aadvantage card and had to submit docs and they ended up approving the card but in total it took two months and they pulled my credit report 3 times.
I just don't think it's worth all the hassle to go through to get the second card and 50k Hilton points. What so you all think? Should I drop it? Will not sending the form cause problems with my next citi app?
I had a similar situation where I was denied the citi biz aadvantage card and had to submit docs and they ended up approving the card but in total it took two months and they pulled my credit report 3 times.
I just don't think it's worth all the hassle to go through to get the second card and 50k Hilton points. What so you all think? Should I drop it? Will not sending the form cause problems with my next citi app?
#1075
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 361
First of all, you have to make sure your points have already posted to Hilton HHonors (and to the correct account there! sometimes Citi makes mistakes with account number, so until you verify at HH, not just on your Citi statement, that you got the bonus points I would not close the card). If you haven't gotten to that point by day 64, then definitely don't close. If the points have posted correctly to HHonors already, then no, Citi doesn't clawback, no matter when after that you cancel the card.
Second, if you close before you apply for the new cards, they can't pull credit limit from the cards you just closed to the new cards. In some cases, that may turn out to cause you to be denied ("we cannot offer you more credit")! The better approach is to either close the cards many months before you apply for new ones (obviously not psosibly if you're trying to apply after 65 days), or else leave the previous cards open until you've been successfully issued new cards.
Btw, that's one possible hitch with applying every 65 days: It can take much more than 65 days for cancelled cards to return credit limit to your "pool"; and so you'll always be 2 to 4 cards' worth of credit limit "behind" at that rate. So depending on how much credit they're willing to offer you, that might put a limit on how often you can really apply for these cards (on a repeating basis).
(On the other hand, if you keep all the cards open, you'll eventually hit Citi's "you have too many open cards with us" situation. So therein's the dilemma when to cancel what if you want to keep applying every 65 days.)
Second, if you close before you apply for the new cards, they can't pull credit limit from the cards you just closed to the new cards. In some cases, that may turn out to cause you to be denied ("we cannot offer you more credit")! The better approach is to either close the cards many months before you apply for new ones (obviously not psosibly if you're trying to apply after 65 days), or else leave the previous cards open until you've been successfully issued new cards.
Btw, that's one possible hitch with applying every 65 days: It can take much more than 65 days for cancelled cards to return credit limit to your "pool"; and so you'll always be 2 to 4 cards' worth of credit limit "behind" at that rate. So depending on how much credit they're willing to offer you, that might put a limit on how often you can really apply for these cards (on a repeating basis).
(On the other hand, if you keep all the cards open, you'll eventually hit Citi's "you have too many open cards with us" situation. So therein's the dilemma when to cancel what if you want to keep applying every 65 days.)
I'm dreading the day when I call up and I ask them to move credit from an old Citi Hilton to a new Citi Hilton that I'm opening up. That'll be a fun conversation.
#1076
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: LAX
Programs: Hyatt Platinum, SPG Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 290
I just got approved for 2x Citi Hilton cards after moving credit line from my 2X Citi AA Bronze Cards. I also got approved for Ink Plus and United Explorer. I am going to blog about my experience tonight on my blog. 4 Credit Card approvals using 4 browsers! Find me on google if you can
#1077
Formerly known as cagalindo
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: MCO TPA
Programs: Citi AA/HH/TYP Amex SPG/HH & Chase SP/PC
Posts: 1,335
I just got approved for 2x Citi Hilton cards after moving credit line from my 2X Citi AA Bronze Cards. I also got approved for Ink Plus and United Explorer. I am going to blog about my experience tonight on my blog. 4 Credit Card approvals using 4 browsers! Find me on google if you can
You called? I'm on the edge...
#1079
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 104
They do seem to be kinda slow on sending out approval emails.
I applied last Monday and got instant approval (two browser).
Got the actual emails just last night though.
I applied last Monday and got instant approval (two browser).
Got the actual emails just last night though.
#1080
Formerly known as cagalindo
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: MCO TPA
Programs: Citi AA/HH/TYP Amex SPG/HH & Chase SP/PC
Posts: 1,335
Called and provided ID, easy took 3-5 min no questions, just had to move credit from AA Visa.
Data: 2 browser trick and got both for 100k.
Data: 2 browser trick and got both for 100k.