isle-hawg

No.

duranza

I know I posted in two threads.. just wanted to explain, yes twofold we have a return flight in May , leaving the 29th so checked luggage fee waiver will be used then also I wanted more miles in his account. It has been very difficult to get a 2nd USair card but he managed today getting the 40k Premier with AF after recon call and dividing up the CL on his World Arrival.

FTR 787

Just curious when applying for this card if the Dividend Miles account name has to match the CC app?

I know this cant be done with AA, perhaps not BA either? Anyways, my brother isnt into this wonderful world of ours at all. He has great credit but doesnt even have a US FF account. I would manage his CC for him assuming we can pool the mileage into one account.

So is that possible?

Happy

No.

FTR 787

No, as in FF and CC names dont have to match... or no, as in cant pool miles with US?

Happy

The latter.

You would also risk USDM account shut down due to frauds as what you are thinking to do is a violation of T&Cs of the FF program.

BA has long required Chase to send card holder's info for verification first before Chase could even issue a card number.

It seems AA is doing the Ad Hoc verification now and causes a lot of griefs among new card holders.

FTR 787

how is it fraud when fam members wanna pool? anyways, point noted, just thinking out loud.

although I thought this could be done with Chase UR points, pooling of em, that is. not sure about amex MR.

apologize if I'm mistaken.

tomcanada22

Only a few programs allow pooling miles. BA is one of those.

US Air don't allow and far as I know even UR don't really allow unless it's the immediate spouse to transfer UR points, transfer to anyone else will shut down your cards.

bribro

Because it's against the rules you agreed to when you joined the FF program.

Chase allows you to combine/pool UR points with spouses/domestic partners, but UR points are not FF miles.

FTR 787

good to know, thanks! what other programs allow it btw?

I get that, its just that some people tend to throw that word around -- which isnt very conducive to any discussion esp an exploratory one. furthermore, fraud implies something illegal... which this is not, esp given other FFPs allow it.

sdsearch

Those programs that allow it have a feature to allow and to do it. It's not pooling by using another name on the card. It's pooiing by linking accounts together (at the airline, in the case of BA).

So it's the FFP accounts that are pooled, not the credit card accounts.

The credit card solution for "pooling" (on personal cards) is "authorized user" cards. But of course in those cases it's just one card account but multiple cards in multiple names. (There's a slightly different type of credit card "pooling" that goes on with business accounts, where multiple employees might have cards under the same "master" business account.)

frenchie2

Just applied for the no fee 30K + 10K anniversary bonus, instant approved for $15K limit. I currently have the same card, applied last May(30k mile for $89 fee) and was instant approved for only $5k limit, used the card only a handful of times since then, small charges only... This is now my 2nd Barclay card. I guess I will cancel the first one next Month.

heyeaglefn

I applied last week, had to call reconsideration. This is my second US Airways Card open, closed one in 2012.

It was a long call, about 30 minutes. Need to explain why I needed another card, details about all my cards on my Credit Report, my income, but in the end I got the card.

Happy

Different programs have different rules.

Most US-based airlines programs do NOT allow pooling of points. You are more than welcome to "Share" your miles but it is not free.

BA is the only Major program often used by folks on this forum, that allows a Household account.

Chase UR program is not a FF program. It is Chase own in-house reward program which allows transfer among SPOUSES and DOMESTIC PARTNERS, not even siblings or parents, strictly speaking. You may want to dig further on the Chase Closure threads about people's accounts got shut down because they violate the UR points transfer rules.

You could transfer the UR pts to other's FF program - the system does not prevent you to do so but if the transferred partners are not Spousal Units, it could be in a gray area as well.

AMEX MR does not allow transfer between MR accounts but can be transferred to other's FF program, similar to Chase UR program.

Happy

One thing you may want to keep in mind is, Never Generalize Program Rules among different programs. Just when Program A allows certain things, does not mean Program B, C, D, so on so forth, would allows the same things.

It is a very common mistake made by people new to loyalty programs to generalize one program rules that they somewhat know to other programs they have no ideas of. Operating on such false assumption would only against one's benefit. One really needs to understand each program's rules for the programs they intend to use and take advantage of.

In your case, you could have your brother's US account earns a lot of miles, then redeem ticket for yourself from his account - that is perfectly within program rules and does not cost you the fee to transfer miles. Although with US' frequent bonus offer on the miles transferred, many people here happily pay the $0.011 per mile cost to transfer their miles back and forth to take advantage of such bonus - it works as if you are paying for below the international coach ticket price, yet have enough miles to redeem a business class award.

There are a lot of ways to "pool" miles, just not the way you thought.

Fraud is not necessarily against the law, but it is against the program rules and the airlines can shut down your accounts because of such because of the intention is to cheat on the airlines on the ways it allows one to earn the miles.