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Technically, not UA but CO. In the long run (~a year from now) it makes no difference, as the programs will be merged. In the short run, though, it matters enormously; anyone looking to top up a UA account for an award in 2011 cannot do it with points from the Sapphire/Ultimate Rewards program.
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I currently have the Chase Freedom card and a bunch of Ultimate Rewards points. I want to transfer them to CO miles. If I apply and am approved for the Sapphire card will I be able to transfer points earned through the Freedom card to CO miles?
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Originally Posted by volkswankin
I currently have the Chase Freedom card and a bunch of Ultimate Rewards points. I want to transfer them to CO miles. If I apply and am approved for the Sapphire card will I be able to transfer points earned through the Freedom card to CO miles?
Sapphire card, no. Sapphire Preferred, yes. The two cards are very different.
__________________ Being called "thin-skinned" by Jan Brewer is like being called short by Hervé Villechaize.
I currently have the Chase Freedom card and a bunch of Ultimate Rewards points. I want to transfer them to CO miles. If I apply and am approved for the Sapphire card will I be able to transfer points earned through the Freedom card to CO miles?
bump. I am in the same situation. Can someone confirm if they have done it?
I currently have the Chase Freedom card and have about 30000 Ultimate Rewards points. I want to transfer them to CO miles. It seems like I cannot as I do not have a 'preferred' card.
My questions is: If I apply and am approved for the Sapphire Preferred card [the one with the 50k bonus offer] will I be able to transfer points earned through the Freedom card to CO miles too? (So I'm looking at transferring 50k and the 30k (earned from Freedom card) to CO miles)
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Originally Posted by langjaiken
If I apply and am approved for the Sapphire Preferred card [the one with the 50k bonus offer] will I be able to transfer points earned through the Freedom card to CO miles too?
Yes. You can even move from Freedom/UR to Sapphire Preferred/UR via secure message sent using your Chase online account.
Note that transfers are only in increments of 1,000 points. They're instantaneous. And yes, you can transfer to another user's CO account; names need not match.
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I just got an email overnight from CO, saying that the OnePass program will cease to exist as of Dec 31, 2011. As of Jan 1, 2012, only MileagePlus will exist.
So Chase either has to start allowing transfers directly to UA in the next six months, or else Sapphire/Ink will be out of the picture!
I would interested to hear if anyone who has Sapphire or Ink who has gotten this email from CO has called Chase to ask them about this issue. Ie, is Chase saying they already have plans to allow transfers to UA by 2012, or not? (As the saying goes, the silence is getting deafening!)
I just got an email overnight from CO, saying that the OnePass program will cease to exist as of Dec 31, 2011. As of Jan 1, 2012, only MileagePlus will exist.
So Chase either has to start allowing transfers directly to UA in the next six months, or else Sapphire/Ink will be out of the picture!
I would interested to hear if anyone who has Sapphire or Ink who has gotten this email from CO has called Chase to ask them about this issue. Ie, is Chase saying they already have plans to allow transfers to UA by 2012, or not? (As the saying goes, the silence is getting deafening!)
Of course they will, in due course.
There are still 6 months from now before OnePass officially merges to MP. You have tons of time to do your transfer.
Besides, Chase is also the bank that issues UA cards... what would you think they would do otherwise?
Personally I have not even linked our CO accounts with UA accounts yet. Why the hurry if one is not in the immediate need to use the miles?
Chase is also the bank that issues UA cards... what would you think they would do otherwise?
Because Chase has been the bank that issues UA cards for eons now, and yet very conspicuously they've left out UA so far. (They've even left it for some people who were "forced out of" the semi-defunct Chase Rewards Plus program -- which luckily still works for me -- which did/does allow transfers to UA. But when people were converted from that into Freedom or whatever, they lost the ability to transfer to UA from what I hear.)
So without knowing why Chase has not supported UA in any of its "modern" points programs, I don't know whether they're more likely to alow it once CO ceases to exist as such, or continue to not allow it even once CO disappears. Because they've so conspicuously decided to not support it so far, without giving a good reason that I've heard, I don't "trust" that they'll bring it on board "just" because it'll be the only way to transfer to what used to be CO.
For all I know, Chase and UA may have a contract that doesn't allow 1:1 transfers from cards that aren't explicitly UA branded. (Recall that UA, much more than CO, has a whole "fleet" of different cards they came out with a year or two ago, and they might feel that having 1:1 transfer ability from other [in some cases cheaper] cards, would "dlitute the story" they're trying to sell about these "upsell" cards.) And if so, I don't know that such a contract would get torn up and rewritten just because UA mreges with CO.
Because Chase has been the bank that issues UA cards for eons now, and yet very conspicuously they've left out UA so far. (They've even left it for some people who were "forced out of" the semi-defunct Chase Rewards Plus program -- which luckily still works for me -- which did/does allow transfers to UA. But when people were converted from that into Freedom or whatever, they lost the ability to transfer to UA from what I hear.)
So without knowing why Chase has not supported UA in any of its "modern" points programs, I don't know whether they're more likely to alow it once CO ceases to exist as such, or continue to not allow it even once CO disappears. Because they've so conspicuously decided to not support it so far, without giving a good reason that I've heard, I don't "trust" that they'll bring it on board "just" because it'll be the only way to transfer to what used to be CO.
For all I know, Chase and UA may have a contract that doesn't allow 1:1 transfers from cards that aren't explicitly UA branded. (Recall that UA, much more than CO, has a whole "fleet" of different cards they came out with a year or two ago, and they might feel that having 1:1 transfer ability from other [in some cases cheaper] cards, would "dlitute the story" they're trying to sell about these "upsell" cards.) And if so, I don't know that such a contract would get torn up and rewritten just because UA mreges with CO.
Why speculate? You can freely transfer points to CO miles and then instantly transfer to UA... If you are so worried for something that is 6 months down the road, transfer your pts to CO as soon as you earn them, in the increment of 1K each and done with your worrying (or guessing / analyzing).
I think one thing almost everyone, including you, would agree upon is - CO miles would be 1:1 to UA miles up till the end. Per the notice you dont even need to do the transfer yourself - you just need to LINK up your CO and UA accounts and when the time comes, the CO account dies and the UA account takes all the balance.
So why you worry? May be Chase thinks it does not worth additional cost to develop a transfer to UA when the transfer to CO already exists? Once CO folds into UA the existing mechanism simply changes the receiving end to a new name. It may just be as simple as that.
Why speculate? You can freely transfer points to CO miles and then instantly transfer to UA... If you are so worried for something that is 6 months down the road, transfer your pts to CO as soon as you earn them, in the increment of 1K each and done with your worrying (or guessing / analyzing).
I think one thing almost everyone, including you, would agree upon is - CO miles would be 1:1 to UA miles up till the end. Per the notice you dont even need to do the transfer yourself - you just need to LINK up your CO and UA accounts and when the time comes, the CO account dies and the UA account takes all the balance.
So why you worry? May be Chase thinks it does not worth additional cost to develop a transfer to UA when the transfer to CO already exists? Once CO folds into UA the existing mechanism simply changes the receiving end to a new name. It may just be as simple as that.
Did chase develop Sapphire only after CO->UA transfers were possible? I though Sapphire came first, the merger announcement came second, and CO->UA linking/trasnfers came third. So if CO->UA transfer were not around at the time Sapphire started (with the transfer to CO but not to UA policy), it can't have been because they though it was easy to get them to UA anyhow. That could at most explain recent Chase behavior, but not Chase behavior over the whole life of Sapphire if I have my calendar on these events correct.
Meanwhile, if someone doesn't have a Sapphire/Ink yet, they have to apply for a new one. If it doesn't end up working the way the expected (come 1 Jan 2012), then maybe it's a "wasted" application in whatever sense that may mean for someone. Not everyone considers credit card apps as something you should do every month (even though I know some of us do ). For whatever reason, some people want one solution they can get now that will work in the long run, but I feel (because of the uncertainty related to this ongoing merger) that right this very second is the wrong time to make that decision, if you don't have to make the decision right now.
Again, if you don't mind making a decision that might only work for 6 months, go for it! I'm addressing the longer term for those who want to get as few cards as possible and then keep them a long time.
Obviously, it's quite different for someone already doing it who already has the card. They might as well keep going and see what happens (just as I keep going with my Chase Rewards Plus to see what happens).
And, btw, it's to a significant degree the history so many others have had with Chase Rewards Plus (with forced conversions to other cards which didn't have the same redemption choices) that leaves me unwilling to assume Chase will do what you think makes the most sense for them to do.
). For whatever reason, some people want one solution they can get now that will work in the long run, but I feel (because of the uncertainty related to this ongoing merger) that right this very second is the wrong time to make that decision, if you don't have to make the decision right now.
