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#47
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Questions about Authorized Users [Consolidated]
Not sure if this is the right place to put this questions. MODs please move it if you feel like it.
So, I added my wife as an authorized user on couple of my credit cards. None of them required her SSN, but yesterday we checked my wife's credit report and somehow she got all accounts reported as "Authorized user".
Now my questions are
1. How did they get her SSN to report this accounts?
2. What are my options if I don't want them to report this on her credit report.
3. If I remove her as authorized user, will it remove the account from credit report? If so, are there any negatives to doing this?
thank you for your help.
So, I added my wife as an authorized user on couple of my credit cards. None of them required her SSN, but yesterday we checked my wife's credit report and somehow she got all accounts reported as "Authorized user".
Now my questions are
1. How did they get her SSN to report this accounts?
2. What are my options if I don't want them to report this on her credit report.
3. If I remove her as authorized user, will it remove the account from credit report? If so, are there any negatives to doing this?
thank you for your help.
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Here is an article about creditors reporting without Social Security Numbers:
http://www.bills.com/credit-reporting-without-a-ssn/
http://www.bills.com/credit-reporting-without-a-ssn/
#49
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Here is an article about creditors reporting without Social Security Numbers:
http://www.bills.com/credit-reporting-without-a-ssn/
http://www.bills.com/credit-reporting-without-a-ssn/
#50
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As the article linked above mentions they can find you with name/address/DOB/other similar info. Did you just provide a name (and address) or did you provide more info? AMEX requires SSN, but I know others don't.
I have been an authorized user on my father's cards. Even though I no longer am, they still appear on my credit report.
Is there a particular reason you don't want them appearing?
I have been an authorized user on my father's cards. Even though I no longer am, they still appear on my credit report.
Is there a particular reason you don't want them appearing?
#51
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As the article linked above mentions they can find you with name/address/DOB/other similar info. Did you just provide a name (and address) or did you provide more info? AMEX requires SSN, but I know others don't.
I have been an authorized user on my father's cards. Even though I no longer am, they still appear on my credit report.
Is there a particular reason you don't want them appearing?
I have been an authorized user on my father's cards. Even though I no longer am, they still appear on my credit report.
Is there a particular reason you don't want them appearing?
Anyways I want to get those accounts removed since they are "high utilization" cards and it affects her credit negatively since she did not open many credit cards.
#52
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If you do have a real AMEX and I read my credit report correctly, it appears to be frozen at the balance it had when my dad removed me as an authorized user. Closed credit cards stay on for 10 years. As an authorized user it still shows, but since I'm not legally liable for the debt it has never been a negative for me. I get the benefits of a long history but not the negatives from utilization. This is from a Gold Amex so there is no official preset spending limit and even though it lists as $25k as the balance I still have a very high FICO.
(ETA)
AMEX finally allowed the "add additional card" screen to work. I don't understand how you added a card to your amex without the SSN. (their term for authorized user since to them an authorized user is someone who manages the account if you aren't able). It's a required field on all my cards.
(ETA)
AMEX finally allowed the "add additional card" screen to work. I don't understand how you added a card to your amex without the SSN. (their term for authorized user since to them an authorized user is someone who manages the account if you aren't able). It's a required field on all my cards.
Last edited by gj83; Nov 8, 2010 at 1:10 pm Reason: Removed info about "authorized users" from AMEX since they call it "additional cards"
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AMEX did not require SSN when I added her as authorized user, although they do report it on her credit report ...
Anyways I want to get those accounts removed since they are "high utilization" cards and it affects her credit negatively since she did not open many credit cards.
Anyways I want to get those accounts removed since they are "high utilization" cards and it affects her credit negatively since she did not open many credit cards.
#55
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Even if I remove her, do we still need to dispute?
Why would card issuer not agree. It is first of all Authorized user account (who are not liable for debts) and I removed her from my account.
Why would card issuer not agree. It is first of all Authorized user account (who are not liable for debts) and I removed her from my account.
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Yes. Accounts whether active or closed normally remain on report for 20 years in case you are not aware of this. If your concern is those accounts are affecting her reports negatively (perception or fact?) then only the removal of such information would restore her reports.
The procedure is, when you dispute it, the CRA sends your request to the issuer, and then it is up to the issuer to agree or not agree to that dispute (in removing the accounts from the report). While it is a formality the issuer still has to respond. CRA only reports what banks send to the agency to report.
Your disputes must be filed from your spouse's report, naturally.
Your disputes must be filed from your spouse's report, naturally.
#57
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Yes. Accounts whether active or closed normally remain on report for 20 years in case you are not aware of this. If your concern is those accounts are affecting her reports negatively (perception or fact?) then only the removal of such information would restore her reports.
The procedure is, when you dispute it, the CRA sends your request to the issuer, and then it is up to the issuer to agree or not agree to that dispute (in removing the accounts from the report). While it is a formality the issuer still has to respond. CRA only reports what banks send to the agency to report.
Your disputes must be filed from your spouse's report, naturally.
The procedure is, when you dispute it, the CRA sends your request to the issuer, and then it is up to the issuer to agree or not agree to that dispute (in removing the accounts from the report). While it is a formality the issuer still has to respond. CRA only reports what banks send to the agency to report.
Your disputes must be filed from your spouse's report, naturally.
I just removed her from one of the account and will see how this goes.
#58
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Disputing and "aging off" are the only way things drop from the credit report. Credit cards I opened 10 years ago when I turned 18 and closed immediately are just now "aging off" my credit report.
While you're at it, if you have any old addresses dispute those as well. Visit Creditboards for better information about all of this. People there are trying very hard to restore credit and have all kinds of dispute form letters and instructions about disputing. You can't always just say "I dispute this because i closed the account" or "i'm no longer an authorized user".
Each CRA has their own quirks and I think Experian won't delete my old addresses but Transunion did with no hesitation.
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All. Except for security breach information such as ID theft, the CRA's do NOT share other information. Banks only act on the disputes sent by a particular CRA. It would not automatically do anything on the other 2 that no such request has been made.
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What does it mean to "add a user" to a credit card, for the other user?
I see various CC offers with small additional bonuses for adding an authorized user. What does the mean, other than that person can also use the cc? Does it result in a credit pull for the authorized user? Does it count for / against them on their credit report? Does it negate that other person's ability to be a first-time applicant for that brand of credit card, as is often a requirement for some of the large sign-on bonuses?