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Every single gate at SEA was occupied after landing? I fly 467 fairly often - I've never arrived and found the entire slew of airport gates occupied. Something tells me they could have worked it out with airport ops far faster than 2 hours, even if CO had to pay for another airline's aircraft to be towed out and then put back.
Hawaiian has two 767s which overnight just down the hall from the CO gates - they could have towed out one of those aircraft, let the CO flight use it (I think 467 turns back out to IAH as a redeye), then towed the Hawaiian plane back.
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Every single gate at SEA was occupied after landing? I fly 467 fairly often - I've never arrived and found the entire slew of airport gates occupied. Something tells me they could have worked it out with airport ops far faster than 2 hours, even if CO had to pay for another airline's aircraft to be towed out and then put back.
Hawaiian has two 767s which overnight just down the hall from the CO gates - they could have towed out one of those aircraft, let the CO flight use it (I think 467 turns back out to IAH as a redeye), then towed the Hawaiian plane back.
Yep. I was staring at the Hawaiin plane for 2 hours, 6 minutes. I don't know how these sort of ops things work. The 3 CO gates (B9, B11, and B15) were occupied by 3 CO planes waiting for deicing the whole time. I saw the A/C at B11 push back about 1.5 hours into our wait, and only at that time did I realize that there was another aircraft that had been waiting longer than us. It took that gate. We were then told we were waiting for S-4 and the deicer was headed there at that time, but eventually a CO plane pushed back from B15 and we took that. I did not notice the B15 plane being deiced at all, so I don't know if that might have been an R.O.N or what.
Anyway, I agree that there should be *something* that an airline could pay for that could be done.
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Yep. I was staring at the Hawaiin plane for 2 hours, 6 minutes. I don't know how these sort of ops things work. The 3 CO gates (B9, B11, and B15) were occupied by 3 CO planes waiting for deicing the whole time. I saw the A/C at B11 push back about 1.5 hours into our wait, and only at that time did I realize that there was another aircraft that had been waiting longer than us. It took that gate. We were then told we were waiting for S-4 and the deicer was headed there at that time, but eventually a CO plane pushed back from B15 and we took that. I did not notice the B15 plane being deiced at all, so I don't know if that might have been an R.O.N or what.
Anyway, I agree that there should be *something* that an airline could pay for that could be done.
You can always ask to have a plane moved BUT if there are no employees available from that airline to move the plane (you need a maintance person in the cockpit and a ramper) it's going to sit there. You also need a place to move it to; ie a parking pad/spot. Maybe neither of these things were available at the time.
You can always ask to have a plane moved BUT if there are no employees available from that airline to move the plane (you need a maintance person in the cockpit and a ramper) it's going to sit there. You also need a place to move it to; ie a parking pad/spot. Maybe neither of these things were available at the time.
That makes sense. But CO and AS are certainly "friendly" (last I heard), and there are always any number of R.O.N. AS planes around (and SEA being their hub and all, you would think the staff would be there)...
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That makes sense. But CO and AS are certainly "friendly" (last I heard), and there are always any number of R.O.N. AS planes around (and SEA being their hub and all, you would think the staff would be there)...
AS would have made perfect sense as well - true, I think the HI crew is long gone at that hour, but I'm not sure who does their ground handling. I think a call to the HA SM would have sorted it out, but AS also makes a logical choice, as does NW. I've arrived on 467 and parked at the S gates near NW when the CO gates were full.
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You can always ask to have a plane moved BUT if there are no employees available from that airline to move the plane (you need a maintance person in the cockpit and a ramper) it's going to sit there. You also need a place to move it to; ie a parking pad/spot. Maybe neither of these things were available at the time.
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Did the f/a's and/or captain make a big deal about getting to their destination early? I always consider this announcement to be the kiss of death: "Ladies and gentlemen, we've arrived at XXX 30 minutes ahead of schedule, we'll be taxiing to the gate for the next few moments....." Exactly a "few moments" later, the captain comes on the p/a and says "well, there's a jet still at our gate." When you get off 50 minutes later, you've still "arrived early."
I sometimes wish they'd just circle - at least then you can keep working.
Did the f/a's and/or captain make a big deal about getting to their destination early? I always consider this announcement to be the kiss of death: "Ladies and gentlemen, we've arrived at XXX 30 minutes ahead of schedule, we'll be taxiing to the gate for the next few moments....." Exactly a "few moments" later, the captain comes on the p/a and says "well, there's a jet still at our gate." When you get off 50 minutes later, you've still "arrived early."
I sometimes wish they'd just circle - at least then you can keep working.
