Chase CO Presidential vs. AMEX Plat for Lounge Access
My AMEX Plat is up for renewal next month ($499 yr.) and I am considering swithching to the Chase premium card with louge acess ($375-$75) as access to Delta and NWA is of little benefit.
Does anyone have knowledge of what the changes will be with * Alliance? 75% of my travel is with CO, 25% US Air so a card accepted at * lounges would be ideal. |
There's been no information on US lounges for President Club members.
FWIW, it is widely assumed there will be strong reciprocity between PCs and RCCs but this is no guarantee that US clubs will be included too. Beyond that the Chase card grants you a full PC membership (you can enter whenever you want) and the AMEX requires you must be traveling on the airline -- something you may want to consider. |
Originally Posted by Barefooter
(Post 12134782)
My AMEX Plat is up for renewal next month ($499 yr.) and I am considering swithching to the Chase premium card with louge acess ($375-$75) as access to Delta and NWA is of little benefit.
Does anyone have knowledge of what the changes will be with * Alliance? 75% of my travel is with CO, 25% US Air so a card accepted at * lounges would be ideal. |
Originally Posted by J.Edward
(Post 12134926)
Beyond that the Chase card grants you a full PC membership (you can enter whenever you want) and the AMEX requires you must be traveling on the airline -- something you may want to consider. So even with Term A @ EWR if Im not flying out of the same Concourse as CO uses at Term A , no way would I want to go thru TSA twice, once to get to the PC the 2nd to get to my flight |
Originally Posted by kingalien
(Post 12134961)
Unless you are fully using the benefits of the AMEX card, the Chase PP card is the better option.
But then all 1 can earn is CO miles, while with the Amex theres numerous Carriers the Miles can be moved to. Either to top off or say CO has no availability to XYZ and thusly a person can them move their MR pts to XX and get a tkt that way. etc etc |
Originally Posted by J.Edward
(Post 12134926)
FWIW, it is widely assumed there will be strong reciprocity between PCs and RCCs
UA makes US Club holders (:rolleyes:) pay a higher annual fee to access RCC's. Why should we assume the CO / UA relationship will be any different. Money [in the US] is still green last time I checked. |
Originally Posted by belynch
(Post 12135129)
Why and by whom?
Will I be able to use my Presidents Club card to access the Star Alliance partner Lounges? But that said, who knows with US as they upcharge for RCC/*G access. :rolleyes:Continental is expected to join Star Alliance during the fourth quarter of 2009, and Presidents Club members will then have access to United's Red Carpet Club lounges as well as other select Star Alliance partner lounges. Specific Star Alliance partner lounge access for Presidents Club card holders is still being finalized. Also of note, you need a same day BP to access the RCC with a RCC membership, it's not like the PC where you can just show up (not that getting a same day boarding pass is all that hard, but food for thought.) |
Originally Posted by kingalien
(Post 12134961)
Unless you are fully using the benefits of the AMEX card, the Chase PP card is the better option.
What if I also fly AA on occasion? That isn't "fully" using the benefits but it is certainly cheaper to have the AmEx than a PC/PPlus and AC membership. I don't use the vast majority of the benefits that the AmEx Platinum card offers. No FHR stays, no Cruise bonuses and no 2-4-1 international deals for me. I do use the louneg access, the SPG Gold (minimal though that benefit may be) and a few of the other benefits. And I definitely still feel that I get better value from my AmEx card than I would from the PPlus card. |
Originally Posted by sbm12
(Post 12135495)
Really??
What if I also fly AA on occasion? That isn't "fully" using the benefits but it is certainly cheaper to have the AmEx than a PC/PPlus and AC membership. I don't use the vast majority of the benefits that the AmEx Platinum card offers. No FHR stays, no Cruise bonuses and no 2-4-1 international deals for me. I do use the louneg access, the SPG Gold (minimal though that benefit may be) and a few of the other benefits. And I definitely still feel that I get better value from my AmEx card than I would from the PPlus card. |
Originally Posted by sbm12
(Post 12135495)
...And I definitely still feel that I get better value from my AmEx card than I would from the PPlus card.
If one is flying CO 75,000+ BIS miles per year then the PPlus is a no brainer. Lounge access + ~19,000 bonus miles + Avis + ability to earn points for purchases, especially if you would have already bought a membership to the PC anyways ($325 1 year Plat vs $375 1 year annual fee from Chase.) The downside is you're linked to CO and if you venture out, the card won't offer much value. Now if one is not flying CO 75k+ (or is traveling heavily on other alliance too) than I think the AMEX option gains value. While you do loose some abilities to earn bonus onepass miles, one could easily argue MRs impressive list of partners justifies any potential loss. Likewise the ability to access multiple airline lounges across alliances is particularly useful for those who fly multiple carriers. The rather steep $500 annual fee can easily be justified if one could save buying a PC, AC and DL lounge membership - to say nothing of the ability to earn MR points. Anyways, I think this is truly one of those YMMV but if you're just on AA once or twice a year (and CO for the rest) I'd think the PPlus card + a daypass or two to the AC when needed would be a better value...but that's just me. |
Originally Posted by J.Edward
(Post 12135595)
I really think this is one of those YMMV situations.
If one is flying CO 75,000+ BIS miles per year then the PPlus is a no brainer. Lounge access + ~19,000 bonus miles + Avis + ability to earn points for purchases, especially if you would have already bought a membership to the PC anyways ($325 1 year Plat vs $375 1 year annual fee from Chase.) The downside is you're linked to CO and if you venture out, the card won't offer much value. Now if one is not flying CO 75k+ (or is traveling heavily on other alliance too) than I think the AMEX option gains value. While you do loose some abilities to earn bonus onepass miles, one could easily argue MRs impressive list of partners justifies any potential loss. Likewise the ability to access multiple airline lounges across alliances is particularly useful for those who fly multiple carriers. The rather steep $500 annual fee can easily be justified if one could save buying a PC, AC and DL lounge membership - to say nothing of the ability to earn MR points. Anyways, I think this is truly one of those YMMV but if you're just on AA once or twice a year (and CO for the rest) I'd think the PPlus card + a daypass or two to the AC when needed would be a better value...but that's just me. As for the AA example, I've taken a trip or two on them each of the past couple years and my wife was with me. That's a lot of day passes. And the AX card is $450, not "nearly $500" for the annual fee. I also happen to get some other perks that are work-related from it (I have the Biz version, not the Personal) so there are other value considerations for me, too. Believe me, I consider it very carefully every year. I might not renew next year and take a year off since I'll have BD *G that will get me into CO lounges throughout 2010. It is definitely YMMV and each person has their own values they assign to the various bits. |
Originally Posted by sbm12
(Post 12135786)
It is definitely YMMV and each person has their own values they assign to the various bits.
what is good for me might not be for someone else, thusly as in most things a most Definite YMMV issue |
Originally Posted by J.Edward
(Post 12135468)
By Alex, of course!
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Originally Posted by sbm12
(Post 12135786)
And the AX card is $450, not "nearly $500" for the annual fee.
Originally Posted by sbm12
(Post 12135786)
Believe me, I consider it very carefully every year. I might not renew next year and take a year off since I'll have BD *G that will get me into CO lounges throughout 2010.
Just out of curiosity, if you were to drop the AMEX plat in favor of BD *G for lounge access what would you replace it with, if anything? |
Originally Posted by J.Edward
(Post 12135468)
By Alex, of course! :D
Will I be able to use my Presidents Club card to access the Star Alliance partner Lounges? But that said, who knows with US as they upcharge for RCC/*G access. :rolleyes:Continental is expected to join Star Alliance during the fourth quarter of 2009, and Presidents Club members will then have access to United's Red Carpet Club lounges as well as other select Star Alliance partner lounges. Specific Star Alliance partner lounge access for Presidents Club card holders is still being finalized. Also of note, you need a same day BP to access the RCC with a RCC membership, it's not like the PC where you can just show up (not that getting a same day boarding pass is all that hard, but food for thought.) |
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