KVS Availability Tool - CO

KVS · Jun 24, 05, 12:15 am

This thread is a branch-off from the Master KVS Availability Tool Thread, and is intended for discussion and support on UA-specific issues.

Please continue to use the main thread for all other matters, and http://www.KVSTool.com for membership-related inquiries.

Availability:

UA Booking Classes Displayed via the KVS Tool (UA Award/Upgrade Classes are in green):

[Sabre: FS]
- F A J C D Z P Y B M E U H Q V W S T L K G N
[Galileo: ETR]
- F A J C D Z P Y B M E U H Q V W S T L K G N
[Awards/StarAlliance]
- FS=O CS=I YS=X
[Awards/AC-StarAlliance]
- FS=O CS=I YS=X
[Awards-Upgrades/UA]
- F FN A ON O J JN C D Z ZN P PN R RN IN I Y YN B M E U H HN Q V W S T L K G N XN X

OnePass Star Alliance & Partner Award Availability:

CO Award & Upgrade availability is supported.
All Star Alliance partners are also supported: AC/US/LH/LX/OS/SK/TP/LO/JK/BD/TK/SN/A3/JJ/SQ/NZ/NH/OZ/TG/CA/SA/MS/ET/JP/OU/KF
Star Alliance Upgrade Availability is fully supported for all Star Alliance carriers, except JJ.
Also supported are the following non-Star Alliance partner airlines:
VS/HA/EK
Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes for more details.

Fares, Fare/Routing Rules:

UA published Fares & Fare/Routing Rules are supported by all KVS Tool Fares Methods.
Also supported are UA-published Star Alliance Round-The-World (xRWSTARx/YRWSPCL) & other special circle Fares, including Circle Asia (xCASTARx), Circle North Asia (xCNASTRx) & Circle Pacific (xCPSTARx) via the [Fares/DotRes] Method.
Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#RTW for more details.

Seat Maps:

UA Seat Maps are available via the [Amadeus Text] & [Amadeus Enhanced] options.

Timetables:

UA flights are supported.

Operational Info/Flight Tracking:

Detailed Operational Info (incl. delay reasons, etc.) is available for UA flights via the [Amadeus] option.
Detailed Operational Info is also available for most other Star Alliance flights via the [Amadeus] option.
UA flights are supported in all Tracking options.

Bonehead · Jun 24, 05, 1:02 pm

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KVS · Jul 1, 05, 2:18 pm

Vulcan · Jul 1, 05, 2:41 pm

Does Amadeus really show "R". I thought it was hidden and internal to CO only?

KVS · Jul 1, 05, 2:49 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Does Amadeus really show "R". I thought it was hidden and internal to CO only?

Yes, it definitely does, e.g.:

[KVS Availability Tool - Amadeus: AUA/*A]

Code:

NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA EWR
LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY
THU  01 Sep 2005

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- -------------------------------------------------------- 
CO        18     EWR  18:50     LGW  06:40 +1  777  0  J9 D9 Z9 R5 Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 O0 V9 U9 Q9 I9 S9 W9 T5 X5 L0

landrew · Nov 11, 05, 3:13 pm

[quote=KVS]Yes, it definitely does

Well, I can't seem to find them, even using Amadeus. Or Apollo ITN/UA.

Also, are there other hidden fare bucket codes on Continental? And are they the same on COPA?

KVS · Nov 11, 05, 3:23 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by landrew

Well, I can't seem to find them, even using Amadeus. Or Apollo ITN/UA.

Also, are there other hidden fare bucket codes on Continental? And are they the same on COPA?

Well, the R class on CO can still be accessed via Amadeus. As for other codes, there is a [CO Award/Upgrade classes] link located in the 1st post of this thread...

[KVS Availability Tool - Amadeus: AUA]

Code:

NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA EWR
LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY
THU  01 Dec 2005

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- ------------
CO        18     EWR  18:50     LGW  06:40 +1  777  0  J9 D9 Z9 R9 Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 O0 V9 U9 Q9 I9 S9 W9 T9 X9 L9

AviationFreak · Nov 11, 05, 4:10 pm

But remember everyone, fare class "R" cannot happen on int'l routes, right?

**Xyzzy** · Nov 11, 05, 5:46 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AviationFreak

But remember everyone, fare class "R" cannot happen on int'l routes, right?

It can happen, it just isn't used for EUA. I have no idea what it is used for on such itineraries.

sic incognito · Nov 12, 05, 3:04 am

R class on intl. segments is the upgrade to BF bucket. Also, when R is available, standard BF awards are highly likely to be available.

carpboy · Feb 17, 06, 1:06 am

Using Amadeus no CO connections are being seen, say for PHL-JAX as an example. Non-stops to/from hubs are found.

Am I missing something?

cobrax333 · Feb 17, 06, 6:42 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by carpboy

Using Amadeus no CO connections are being seen, say for PHL-JAX as an example. Non-stops to/from hubs are found.

Am I missing something?

The problem with Amadeus is you can't limit the airline you are searching, so there are plenty of routes it comes up with besides CO, which means it might not display every combination. What you can do is search the connections on Worldspan limiting the search to just CO. Then search each leg out on Amadeus to look for R (if thats what you are trying).

carpboy · Feb 17, 06, 12:16 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobrax333

...so there are plenty of routes it comes up with besides CO, which means it might not display every combination...

I've tried a number of city pairs and it seems the most it returns is 34 flights, counting a connection as two flights. It also seems to be (somewhat) Star biased despite being told 'all'. It doesn't seem to be an issue of 'plenty of other routes', it just seems to be not showing much other routes. In the PHL-JAX example, except the lone (why just 1???) DL and FL flight, everything is CLT and IAD (also 4 NS's). I wouldn't call that a plethora of 'other routes'.

KVS · Feb 17, 06, 12:59 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by carpboy

I've tried a number of city pairs and it seems the most it returns is 34 flights, counting a connection as two flights. It also seems to be (somewhat) Star biased despite being told 'all'. It doesn't seem to be an issue of 'plenty of other routes', it just seems to be not showing much other routes. In the PHL-JAX example, except the lone (why just 1???) DL and FL flight, everything is CLT and IAD (also 4 NS's). I wouldn't call that a plethora of 'other routes'.

cobrax333 is correct -- you can't limit the results to a specific airline with the Amadeus method. What you would need to do is split your request into 2 or more parts (depending on how many connecting points there are). For example, for PHL-JAX, you would need to request availability for PHL-CLE, and then for CLE-JAX:

[KVS Availability Tool - Amadeus: AUA]

Code:

PHL  Philadelphia Metro / Philadelphia Int'l PA US = PHL TTN [KPHL]
CLE  Cleveland Hopkins Int'l OH US [KCLE]
WED  01 Mar 2006

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- --------------------------------------------
CO        3287   PHL  06:30     CLE  08:09     ERJ  0  Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 O9 V9 U9 Q9 I9 S9 W9 T9 X9 L6
CO        2294   PHL  13:15     CLE  14:44     ER3  0  Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 O9 V9 U9 Q9 I9 S9 W9 T4 X9 L0
CO        3219   PHL  14:25     CLE  16:05     ER3  0  Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 O9 V9 U9 Q9 I9 S3 W9 T0 X7 L0
CO        1600   PHL  18:15     CLE  19:55     738  0  A9 D9 Z9 R9 Y9 H9 K9 N9 B9 O9 V9 U9 Q9 I9 S9 W9 T9 X9 L9

[KVS Availability Tool - Amadeus: AUA]

Code:

CLE  Cleveland Hopkins Int'l OH US [KCLE]
JAX  Jacksonville Int'l FL US [KJAX]
WED  01 Mar 2006

Carrier   Flight From Depart    To   Arrive    A/C  St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- --------------------------------------------
CO        3180   CLE  09:30     JAX  11:45     ERJ  0  Y0 H0 K0 N0 B0 O0 V0 U0 Q0 I0 S0 W0 T0 X0 L0

MBM3 · Feb 17, 06, 2:01 pm

Is there any way to pull up a CO PNR?