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SEE NEW THREAD - 50K AA Cards


As of Sunday August 25, 2013:
Reports indicate personal cards can no longer be rapidly churned.

Click HERE to review the previous thread on this topic.

Recommended Application Procedure:
Clear cache and cookies prior to applying or use an incognito or private browsing session to apply. Opening multiple different apps in different windows or tabs or failing to clear cookies/cache has resulted in people receiving a lesser offer.

For information on the Executive version of this card, with $450 annual fee, not waived, see: Up to 100k miles Citi Executive AAdvantage offers

MOST CURRENT 50K LINKS:

Citi Personal and Business:50K miles & two Admirals Club one-day passes after $3000 spend in 3 months, $95 fee waived first year.

Citi AA Platinum Personal Mastercard, 50,000 miles after $3k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here. This is a CHIP and Signature card.

Landing page for 50K Business and Personal MC requires $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to the following application pages:
Landing page for 50K Business and Personal MC after $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to the following application pages:
Landing page for 50K Business and Personal MC after $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to the following application pages:
Landing page for 50K Business MC after $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to this application page.

OTHER PERSONAL CARDS

Citi Platinum Select Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Up to $100 statement credit for AA purchases. Landing page available here.

Citi Platinum Select Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year.

Citi Gold Mastercard. 25,000 miles after $750 spend in 3 months. $50 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here

If you are already a Citigold customer, read this post from the Miles Professor about another 50K offer from your branch office for the American Airlines credit card.

OTHER BUSINESS CARDS

Citi Business MasterCard. 40,000 miles after $3k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here.

Citi Business Mastercard. 35,000 miles after $1.5k spend in 3 months.

Citi Business Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here.

Citi Business Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Up to $100 statement credit for AA purchases. Landing page available here.


Citibank Contacts/Resources (Please add the others that you know)
  • Application status: https://www.accountonline.com/cards/...?screenID=3187
  • (800) 695-5171 – Personal Application Status and Reconsideration Line with live rep
  • (800) 763-9795 – General Personal Application Inquiries with live rep
  • (800) 645-7240 – Business Application Status and Reconsideration Line, dial option 3 then option 1 for application status
  • (800) 288-4653 – Business Application Status and Reconsideration Line, dial option 3 then option 1 for application status
  • (866) 606-2787 – General Application and Account Questions with live rep
  • (888) 201-4523 – Application status
  • (866) 606-2961 – Reconsideration Line.
  • Twitter : @AskCiti. Very powerful tool.
  • Executive Office - useful for getting a more empowered agent for reconsideration purposes: CitiBank Executive Review Department, P.O. Box 6000, Sioux Falls, SD 57117

FAQ
  1. Are these AA cards churnable?
  2. What are the most current time-restriction rules in applying for all Citi cards?
  3. Do I need to close existing cards before applying?
  4. When should I close existing Citi accounts?
  5. Can I apply for a business card if I don’t have a business?
  6. Can I buy Visa gift cards to meet my minimum spend?
  7. Do I get 10% back when redeeming miles for awards?
  8. Do I have to use my own AAdvantage number on applications?
  9. There is nothing on the application page stating the bonus miles. How do I know what I will be getting?
  10. When will my bonus miles post?
  11. I met the minimum spend. Why does my statement say "Miles Reported to AA: 0"?
  12. Can I cancel a card using secure messaging?
  13. I activated the card online and got a message about this card replacing an old card. What does that mean?
  14. Which credit bureau does Citi pull and can I force them to use a different one?

1. Are these AA cards churnable?
Yes and No. The general rules are:
  • Personal AA cards: As of August 25, 2013 all linked personal AA cards in this thread can be churned only after Citi decides that you are no longer an existing cardmember. This usually occurs between 12 and 26 months after your last successful AA personal card approval of any type including AA Executive card(s). If you want both a Platinum card and an Executive AA card and are eligible under the 12-26 month rule, get the Platinum card first or the Executive card will restart the clock. Although it is not a hard-and-fast rule, 18 months after previous approval is the most common. YMMV. You do not need to cancel old personal cards.
    • Note: You cannot circumvent this rule by applying for a card type different from your previous Citi AA card. If your last personal AA card was a Visa, the waiting period for your next personal AA card will be the same regardless of whether you apply for a Visa, MC, or Amex.

  • Business AA cards: have been churnable repeatedly by some people without restriction other than the general Citi application rules. Apply once every 91-95 days. For unknown reasons, some other people have been unable to churn business cards at all. Also, some (but not all) people need to completely cancel their previous business card (ie, cancel both the card account and the associated master account) before they can apply for another business card.

    Note: If you encounter difficulty in obtaining a Citi AA business card after holding one before, it may because of the unusual way Citi sets up business accounts. The business account per se has its own master number; like a standard MC/Visa, this master account number is 16 digits. In addition, each card on the account has its own 16-digit card number. Each of these numbers, including the number for the primary cardholder, is different from the master account number.

    Sometimes, when you call to close your card account, all the card numbers are canceled but the master account remains open. When this happens, subsequent applications for a business card may encounter difficulty. Online, there should be a dropdown of accounts under your business login; the number that match your card number is your card account, the number that does not match your card number is your master account. When cancelling, ask to cancel both accounts, giving the last 4 digts of each (as shown in that dropdown).


2. What are the most current time-restriction rules in applying for all Citi cards?
  • Only 1 Citi application of any kind per week (8 days to be safe).
  • No more than 2 Citi applications of any kind in 60 days (65 days to be safe).
  • No more than 1 Citi business application in 90 days (95 to be safe). This does not override the rules above.

While the day limits are a little flexible by a few days either way and YMMV, the rules themselves are not flexible. Note: In applying the rules above, count all Citi applications, including denials and/or applications for non-AA cards.

Mixed type Example:
Day 1 60K HHonors Visa
Day 9 or later 50K Personal Platinum Visa
Day 66 or later 50K Business #1
Day 74 or later 60K Executive
Day 161 or later 50K Business #2
18 Months, 74 days or later 50K Personal Platinum Visa

Not sure what day you applied? The date is written year, month, day in the application number: 201402280000 means you applied on Feb 28, 2014


3. Do I need to close existing cards before applying?
No. There is no requirement that you close previous personal accounts. People have reported having 4 or more of the exact same card. However, many people have reported problems getting AA Business cards if they have an open Business account.


4. When should I close existing Citi accounts?
This is a matter of personal preference. Citi cards can be closed immediately after receiving a bonus and paying off the balance. There are no verifiable reports of Citi clawing back miles (exception - miles were clawed back for returned merchandise around November 2011).

Reasons to keep accounts open:
  • Having large credit lines improves your utilization percentage.
  • Maintaining old cards improves average age of cards.
  • Credit lines can be moved from old cards to new cards.
  • Anecdotal evidence suggests that Citi counts the credit lines of recently-closed accounts for 3-6 months against your total available credit.
  • You can receive retention offers once every 6 months per card. See this thread for details on the latest retention offers.

Reasons to close accounts:
  • Having a large amount of available credit with Citi will eventually reduce your chances of instant approval. Your application will automatically be reviewed if your CL's total 75K or more. This may also result in a large disparity between existing account CL's and new CL's, such as 20K, 20K and 1K for a new card, as an example.
  • There is little incentive to pay an annual fee if it is not waived.
  • The annual fee on Business cards is rarely waived.
  • Having a large number of open Citi cards will show up on your credit report and may affect non-Citi applications as well as the overall age of your accounts.


5. Can I apply for a business card if I don’t have a business?
Anyone can apply for a business card. You do not need a registered business with an EIN. If you do not have a business with an EIN or with bills/accounts in the business name, you can apply using your name as the business. The three possibilities are that: 1. You could be approved unconditionally, 2. You could be asked to fax a couple of bills or accounts (water, electricity, gas, cable, or phone bills, bank accounts, etc.) in the name of the business to Citi, or 3. You could be required to fill out and send a 4506-T tax form. Whatever you do do not make up income etc. about the business. Plenty of people have been issued cards for businesses with $0 annual revenue, 1-5 employees, and 0 years in business.


6. Can I buy Visa gift cards to meet my minimum spend?
Purchases from banks are almost always coded as a cash advance regardless of what they are for. Purchases from stores, e.g. CVS, are almost always coded as a purchase.
If you are concerned about it, it’s recommended to send a secure message Citi and have them set your Cash Advance limit to zero. Phone CSRs often say they can not do this.


7. Do I get 10% back when redeeming miles for awards?
It depends. First, the rebate program (which began in April 2012) applies only to holders of these cards:
  • Citi Platinum Select AAdvantage Visa Signature
  • Citi Platinum Select AAdvantage World MasterCard
  • Citi Platinum Select AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard
  • Citi Select AAdvantage American Express
It does not apply to the Citi Gold World MasterCard, Citi Executive products, or some of the Citi Business cards.

Also, the maximum rebate for any cardholder in a single calendar year is 10,000 miles. Having more than one qualifying Citi AA card will not allow you to receive a larger rebate; the restriction applies per AAdvantage account.

For more on the 10% rebate benefit, see Citi 10% miles back / rebate for reward redemption.


8. Do I have to use my own AAdvantage number on applications?
Yes. The name on the card application must match the name on the AAdvantage account. You cannot apply for multiple cards for different people and use the same AAdvantage account number. AA does not care or even know how many Citi accounts you have so there is no harm in having your AAdvantage account number associated with multiple cards in your name. If you forget to add your AAdvantage account number to your application, an AAdvantage account in your name will be created and can later be merged with your existing account by calling AA.


9. There is nothing on the application page stating the bonus miles. How do I know what I will be getting?
You need to have faith in the people here if you want to maximize your miles. The people on this board constantly apply for these cards and report back what they are told are the benefits and what they actually receive. The way Citi works is that if you are approved for a card, you will get the bonus associated with the link you applied under as long as you make the minimum spend. It does not matter if you already had the card or anything else. If you are approved - then you get the bonus. The two exceptions to this are: 1. If you fail to clear your cache and accidentally load a cached application, you get the miles associated with that application and 2. Some people have recently succeeded in 'bumping the bonus' by contacting Citi and requesting a match to a 50K offer after applying for a 40K card. If you don't feel like trusting in the experiences of others, then apply for an offer with a landing page.


10. When will my bonus miles post?
Two working days after the date of the statement containing the charge that takes you across the spend threshold. It posts overnight, it'll be there when you check your AAdvantage account in the morning.


11. I met the minimum spend. Why does my statement say "Miles Reported to AA: 0"?
No one knows exactly why this is happening to some people (Citi blames AA, AA blames Citi, and both blame the merger). It supposedly has something to do with the time it takes them to properly link your AAdvantage number to your card. There are two ways to deal with this:
  • Wait 1-2 statement periods, and see if the points post on their own. Per Citi, it can take this long for the accounts to link.
  • Call AA (1-800-882-8880) and open a case about it. Most people have had their miles post within 2 weeks of doing this.

For ongoing discussion, see Some AA Citi Card miles not transferred to AAdvantage accounts [Q3 2013 - Q1 2014]


12. Can I cancel a card using secure messaging?
Yes, assuming you have set up the credit card in your Citi account. Quick and easy.


13. I activated the card online and got a message about this card replacing an old card. What does that mean?
When activating cards online, Citi normally displays the text:

"This account replaces your old account, which is now closed. Statements for your old account will be available for up to 6 months. Your current account summary and unbilled transactions are now listed under your new account number."
This is normal and is supposed to be displayed when activating a replacement card but it seems to display even when activating a brand new card. This is nothing to worry about.


14. Which credit bureau does Citi pull and can I force them to use a different one?
Citi appears to use Experian most frequently, followed by Equifax. For some people they pull both. It depends on where you are located. You can check the Credit Boards database to see where card issuers have pulled recently.

For the most part, freezing Experian, or another bureau, will not cause Citi to pull a different bureau. They will almost certainly require you to unfreeze the bureau they wish to pull or deny your application. Some people have been successful providing the PIN but others have not. Mostly, freezing a credit bureau in an attempt to force Citi to pull a different one seems to waste time, money, and effort for little result. But YMMV.

For one person's experiences with various card issuers, check here.


For rules and info on any offers that include Admirals club passes or statement credits, see here.
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Old Sep 2, 2014, 4:13 am
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I have a domestic trip already booked for Sept 25th (I used my Chase Sapphire card to book it). If I upgrade my Citi AAdvantage Gold card to AAdvantage Platinum today, will I be eligible for free checked bags for my trip? The website doesn't say anything about having to book with the AA Platinum card to be eligible for a free checked bag.

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For benefit to apply, the Citi® / AAdvantage® account must be open 7 days prior to air travel AND, reservation must include the primary cardmember's American Airlines AAdvantage® number 7 days prior to air travel. If your credit card account is closed for any reason, these benefits will be cancelled. Eligible Citi® / AAdvantage® primary cardmembers may check one bag free of charge when traveling to domestic destinations on flights marketed and operated by American Airlines, or on flights marketed by American Airlines and operated by American Eagle Airlines, Inc., SkyWest Airlines, Inc., ExpressJet Airlines, Inc., or Republic Airline Inc. These benefits will not be available for travel on US Airways flights or codeshare flights booked with an American Airlines flight number but operated by another airline. For the Citi® / AAdvantage® card, up to four customers traveling with the eligible primary cardmember will also get their first checked bag free of charge if they are listed in the same reservation. Waiver does not apply to overweight or oversized bags. This benefit cannot be combined with any existing AAdvantage® elite program benefits, including any waiver of baggage charges. Please see aa.com for baggage weight and size restrictions. Additional terms, conditions and restrictions may apply. Applicable terms and conditions are subject to change without notice.

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Old Sep 2, 2014, 8:52 am
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Originally Posted by SuperKirby
I have a domestic trip already booked for Sept 25th (I used my Chase Sapphire card to book it). If I upgrade my Citi AAdvantage Gold card to AAdvantage Platinum today, will I be eligible for free checked bags for my trip? The website doesn't say anything about having to book with the AA Platinum card to be eligible for a free checked bag.
Are free checked bags worth more than 50k miles? If you upgrade an existing card, you'll get free checked bags but no bonus miles. If you apply "from scratch", and then do the minimum spend in time, you'll get 50k miles, and you may (or may not) get the free checked bags on this trip (depending on how fast your application goes).
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Old Sep 2, 2014, 9:01 am
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Originally Posted by FTRox87
right now I'm thinking about focusing on building up my Hilton currency. so go for the HH visa sig and reserve cards? never had either one and I'm in the clear to apply for Citi cards, plus a lot of my HPs from earlier in the year have fallen off.
The Reserve card doesn't "build up" your Hilton currency. It gives you two free weekend night certificates that expire in a year.

Applying for 2 HH Visa Signature cards (8+ days apart) will get you 120k points that will last "forever" as long as you have some activity (earning or burning) in your HH account once every 12 months.

So put the Reserve in the mix only if you are definitely going to need the 2 free weekend nights (at places expensive-on-points enough that it's more worth it to use free night certs than points) within the year. (If you just want HH Gold status alone, and more bonus points, the Amex Surpass has less of an annual fee.)

But any more you want to figure out more about these specific cards, please go to the right threads:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...nors-visa.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...erve-card.html

And see also:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...nors-card.html

As to other Citi cards, there are no other Citi cards that earn real miles or real points that I'm aware of. Citi ThankYou points can be transferred to a handful of foreign airlines, but curiously not AA or HH! Check out the details on those airlines carefully before jumping on that: For example, many foreign airlines have a 3 year expiration which cannot be extended no matter what.
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Old Sep 2, 2014, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by sdsearch
As to other Citi cards, there are no other Citi cards that earn real miles or real points that I'm aware of. Citi ThankYou points can be transferred to a handful of foreign airlines, but curiously not AA or HH!
Yes, TYP can be transfered to HH. See the wiki in http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...-partners.html.
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Old Sep 2, 2014, 8:54 pm
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Originally Posted by sdsearch
Are free checked bags worth more than 50k miles? If you upgrade an existing card, you'll get free checked bags but no bonus miles. If you apply "from scratch", and then do the minimum spend in time, you'll get 50k miles, and you may (or may not) get the free checked bags on this trip (depending on how fast your application goes).
I can't take a hard pull for awhile (personal reasons). Upgrade is the only option. Anyway, can anyone answer my question?
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Old Sep 2, 2014, 8:56 pm
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yes, you should be fine. it's tied to your FFN, which will be correctly reflected with CitiAA Plat benefits when you check in later on this month.
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 7:25 am
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Searched the wiki and the thread and couldn't find any clarity on this, so any help would be appreciated.

I don't currently have any Citi AA cards. I got a targeted offer for the gold card of 50k (40k/$1,000, an extra 10K after $5,000 in 6 months), 9/15 expiration. Obviously the gold card doesn't have much in terms of benefits, but the extra miles would definitely make my trip to Europe next year much easier.

My question is, if I apply and am approved for the gold, then which rule dictates when I can apply for the Platinum; 8 days, 65 days or the 12-26 months? I'm guessing its 12-26 months, since they are both personal cards. But, if it's the 8 or 65 days, is there a benefit to opening one before the other? I'm not worried about losing the Gold offer, since I've been getting them in the mail for the last year or so. In that case, it probably makes more sense to open the Platinum offer in the wiki with 50k/$3K in 3 months, rather than having to spend extra to get the last 10K in my gold offer, or is there something I'm missing here?

Thanks!
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 7:57 am
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Originally Posted by wdkantro2
I don't currently have any Citi AA cards. I got a targeted offer for the gold card of 50k [...]
My question is, if I apply and am approved for the gold, then which rule dictates when I can apply for the Platinum; 8 days, 65 days or the 12-26 months? I'm guessing its 12-26 months, since they are both personal cards. But, if it's the 8 or 65 days, is there a benefit to opening one before the other?
To quote a famous American politican, "All of 'em, Katie!"
  • You can't apply for more than 1 Citi card in any ~8-day period.
  • You can't apply for more than 2 Citi cards in any ~65-day period
There was a time when the 12-26-month waiting period seemed not apply to people who a) already had a Citi AA card and b) applied for a targeted Gold offer, but I don't recall seeing any such reports in the past year or so.

Given the higher Gold spend requirement & your current lack of AA cards, I think you're better off applying for a Plat 50K offer. If you want to double-dip, wait 8 days & apply for a business 50K offer.
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 1:40 pm
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Originally Posted by beltway
To quote a famous American politican, "All of 'em, Katie!"
  • You can't apply for more than 1 Citi card in any ~8-day period.
  • You can't apply for more than 2 Citi cards in any ~65-day period
There was a time when the 12-26-month waiting period seemed not apply to people who a) already had a Citi AA card and b) applied for a targeted Gold offer, but I don't recall seeing any such reports in the past year or so.

Given the higher Gold spend requirement & your current lack of AA cards, I think you're better off applying for a Plat 50K offer. If you want to double-dip, wait 8 days & apply for a business 50K offer.
Two clarifications:

First, this presumes that you have not applied for an AA personal card of any kind (that you were approved for) in the last 18 (12-26) months.

Second, as noted, my impression was that normally targeted offers trump the 18-month (12-26 month) rule.

As beltway says, you definitely want to apply for the Visa Platinum 50K first if you are not within 18 (12-26) months of last successful personal AA app and then 8 days later go for either Gold 40+10K or Business 50K depending on your ability to spend and love of business cards.
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 1:44 pm
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Folks....need help here...

So I read through the wiki but kind not sure if it is up to date.

I currently have Citi Advantage Platinum master card which is due with AF (approved in Aug 2013). Also I applied to Citi HHonors recently and got approved instantly. So following are the questions I have.

1. Does the following rule still apply?

Only 1 Citi application of any kind per week (8 days to be safe).
No more than 2 Citi applications of any kind in 60 days (65 days to be safe).

2. Should I close the current Citi Advantage Platinum master card before applying for a Citi AA card? If so what are other products? I only see application for the same card I have.

appreciate the help.
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 1:59 pm
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Originally Posted by IkeEsq
Two clarifications:

First, this presumes that you have not applied for an AA personal card of any kind (that you were approved for) in the last 18 (12-26) months.

Second, as noted, my impression was that normally targeted offers trump the 18-month (12-26 month) rule.

As beltway says, you definitely want to apply for the Visa Platinum 50K first if you are not within 18 (12-26) months of last successful personal AA app and then 8 days later go for either Gold 40+10K or Business 50K depending on your ability to spend and love of business cards.
I am highly confused.now...isn't

rule 1. You can't apply for more than 2 Citi cards in any ~65-day period contradict the rule

not applied for an AA personal card of any kind (that you were approved for) in the last 18 (12-26) months.?

Also does this means it doesn't matter if the cards were open? Lets says you applied for the second card after 26 months and your original AA card was open. If you have to call the recon what is the reason given to have another card?
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 2:57 pm
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Originally Posted by woow14610
I am highly confused.now...isn't

rule 1. You can't apply for more than 2 Citi cards in any ~65-day period contradict the rule
No more than 1 card in one week (meaning 2 in 8+ days)
No more than 2 cards in 65 days (meaning 3 in 66+ days)
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 3:16 pm
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Originally Posted by woow14610
I am highly confused.now...isn't

rule 1. You can't apply for more than 2 Citi cards in any ~65-day period contradict the rule

not applied for an AA personal card of any kind (that you were approved for) in the last 18 (12-26) months.?

Also does this means it doesn't matter if the cards were open? Lets says you applied for the second card after 26 months and your original AA card was open. If you have to call the recon what is the reason given to have another card?
The Wiki is of course up to date.

The 8 and 65 days rule always applies for normal Citi personal card apps. The post above did not refer to a normal app, but to a targeted offer sent out by Citi, which has it's own rules.

Since you got a Plat card @13 months ago, and didn't get a targeted offer in the mail, the only personal AA card you have more than a 5% chance of being approved for is the EXEC card, which has it's own thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...sting-591.html

You do not need to close an existing Citi card to apply for another one. In fact you usually don't want to close it, as you can often (YMMV) move the CL from the old card to the new card during the Recon call, which can often help you get approved for the new card.
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 7:34 pm
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Originally Posted by SuperKirby
I can't take a hard pull for awhile (personal reasons). Upgrade is the only option. Anyway, can anyone answer my question?
Well, then, I've got a new question. The Platinum card is a Visa Signature card, which may very well be a higher category (in terms of credit worthiness requirements) of card than the Gold card you have now (unless the Gold card is also a Visa Signature card or its MC equivalent). So it's possible Citi will have to do a pull (which they call an "inquiry") just to upgrade you too!

So if you're trying to avoid a pull, make very sure before you say "go" that Citi can confirm that they can do this particular upgrade without doing a hard inquiry.

(And by "very sure", I don't know, maybe hang up and call back and see if you get the same answer several times, or else ask to talk to a supervisor to have it verified, or ask them to send you something written confirming that.)

If you're desperately trying to avoid a hard pull, the one thing worse than giving up on 50k bonus points because of that would be to get a hard pull anyway by doing something you thought would avoid it, and still not get 50k for that hard pull.
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 9:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Brugge

You do not need to close an existing Citi card to apply for another one. In fact you usually don't want to close it, as you can often (YMMV) move the CL from the old card to the new card during the Recon call, which can often help you get approved for the new card.
Thanks for your input. Appreciate it...So if I have the card open how would the recon conversation would be? Isn't it odd to say I applied for another AA card by the way if you have issues approving this you could move the credit line from my other AA card? I just haven't done this so wondering how to have the conversation when it occur.
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