Lamest program ever
#1
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Programs: Delta Diamond 1MM, Marriott Plat
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Lamest program ever
So I'm staying at a Choice property this week, for the first time ever basically, and inquired about a status match.
After sending, and re-sending, my SPG Platinum account info to them - 3 times in total plus a 30 minute phone call - they made me "Choice Platinum" - not even Diamond.
Which gets me....exactly NOTHING.
The ONLY level with any kind of in-stay benefit is DIAMOND - a room upgrade. And everyone else gets - absolutely nothing. An extended booking window for free nights? That's even a THING? I'm astonished that you require STATUS just to book a night on points 50 nights out.
Thank you, Choice, for ensuring that I will never stay at another property of yours again. Lamest benefits I have ever seen, at any chain.
After sending, and re-sending, my SPG Platinum account info to them - 3 times in total plus a 30 minute phone call - they made me "Choice Platinum" - not even Diamond.
Which gets me....exactly NOTHING.
The ONLY level with any kind of in-stay benefit is DIAMOND - a room upgrade. And everyone else gets - absolutely nothing. An extended booking window for free nights? That's even a THING? I'm astonished that you require STATUS just to book a night on points 50 nights out.
Thank you, Choice, for ensuring that I will never stay at another property of yours again. Lamest benefits I have ever seen, at any chain.
#2
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: ORF
Programs: Amex Plat, AA, BA Silver, Marriott Plat, Choice Gold, HHonors Gold, IHG Diamond
Posts: 3,749
Yes, if you need the in-hotel benefits of status, Choice is not a program for you.
If you need hotels in small towns around the United States, then SPG is not a program for you.
Each program has its strengths and its drawbacks. Elite recognition is definitely a drawback of the Choice program. Forget getting upgrades (at well over 95% of Choice properties, that probably just means a room overlooking the parking lot away from the street rather than facing it), most Choice properties do not even acknowledge at checkin that a guest is a member of the program.
The primary strength of the Choice program other than the breadth of properties: a fairly generous earnings structure because of regular variants of their "stay two, earn 8000 points" promotions coupled with some excellent European and Japanese redemption opportunities, frequently at 8K points. The great majority of Choice properties, however, are functional and hardly luxurious.
If you need hotels in small towns around the United States, then SPG is not a program for you.
Each program has its strengths and its drawbacks. Elite recognition is definitely a drawback of the Choice program. Forget getting upgrades (at well over 95% of Choice properties, that probably just means a room overlooking the parking lot away from the street rather than facing it), most Choice properties do not even acknowledge at checkin that a guest is a member of the program.
The primary strength of the Choice program other than the breadth of properties: a fairly generous earnings structure because of regular variants of their "stay two, earn 8000 points" promotions coupled with some excellent European and Japanese redemption opportunities, frequently at 8K points. The great majority of Choice properties, however, are functional and hardly luxurious.
#3
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Programs: Delta Diamond 1MM, Marriott Plat
Posts: 502
Thanks. Yea I know the properties are obviously not luxury brands, I'm just a little surprised they don't do much for you, during your stay. I mean, even just a token.
But point taken. (Bad pun.)
But point taken. (Bad pun.)
#4
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: ORD, MDW or MKE
Programs: American and Southwest. Hilton and Marriott hotels primarily.
Posts: 6,458
#5
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Freeload Univ. Where are you sitting?
Posts: 14,818
The primary strength of the Choice program other than the breadth of properties: a fairly generous earnings structure because of regular variants of their "stay two, earn 8000 points" promotions coupled with some excellent European and Japanese redemption opportunities, frequently at 8K points.
I tend to travel (Europe) in "wholesale lots"; that is, I usually have at least two and up to ten of my immediate family with me. Choice Privileges has allowed my to score up to 28(!) room-nights in Dublin at a pretty nice hotel, twelve room-nights in Paris (good location, free breakfast), and I just sent my SIL and her SO to Rome and Venice where they stayed at Choice properties on my points. There's no way I could have done that with Hilton, Marriott, or Starwood.
Yep.
#6
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,932
I think you don't understand the "budget" hotel space. There's rarely anything to upgrade to. Are the benefits so much better at Best Western Rewards or WyndhamRewards or LaQuinta Returns? Those are the programs to compare to Choice, not SPG or Hilton.
#7
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Posts: 502
that's all i would have expected to see.
#8
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
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I don't know if most hotels have no room upgrades to offer -- many do, even if they tend not to offer them for free even to elites -- but the program does work for me even as I get elite status from award stays and don't usually have many -- if any -- regular paid stays at Choice hotels. The reason it works for me is that I find decent European, Asian and even some acceptable North American properties where the award nights are extra good value.
#9
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: between Albuquerque and Santa Fe
Programs: Kimpton Inner Circle; IHG Spire elite; Marriott & SPG Gold, r
Posts: 838
My last 2 stays at Quality Inn yielded check in amenities! I got a bottle of water and some chex mix (in a gift bag tied with ribbons) at one and at the second, a bottle of water and cheese crackers in a plain bag. I was gold at check in and Platinum and check out on the second.
I was quite surprised.
I was quite surprised.
#10
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Programs: Delta Diamond 1MM, Marriott Plat
Posts: 502
My last 2 stays at Quality Inn yielded check in amenities! I got a bottle of water and some chex mix (in a gift bag tied with ribbons) at one and at the second, a bottle of water and cheese crackers in a plain bag. I was gold at check in and Platinum and check out on the second.
I was quite surprised.
I was quite surprised.
This is what I've been hoping to hear.
I check in on Thursday.
And my fingers are crossed for Chex Mix.
#12
Join Date: Oct 2010
Programs: AA ex-EXP (buh-bye!), HH Gold, SPG Gold, UM Go Blue
Posts: 543
I posted here about some point about whether or not it was worth it to go for Diamond when I was an accidental Platinum. Everyone said no. Maybe in some chains it matters, but Choice is all about value and leverage. I couldn't care less about amenities and upgrades, I care about being able to utilize their weird system to my advantage - and being Platinum definitely gives me the advantage I really care about for award hotel bookings, some of which are incredible.
#13
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: ORF
Programs: Amex Plat, AA, BA Silver, Marriott Plat, Choice Gold, HHonors Gold, IHG Diamond
Posts: 3,749
I posted here about some point about whether or not it was worth it to go for Diamond when I was an accidental Platinum. Everyone said no. Maybe in some chains it matters, but Choice is all about value and leverage. I couldn't care less about amenities and upgrades, I care about being able to utilize their weird system to my advantage - and being Platinum definitely gives me the advantage I really care about for award hotel bookings, some of which are incredible.
#15
Join Date: May 2006
Location: BOS and ...
Programs: UA 2MM, AA 600k, DL 500k, Hyatt GP 1M, HH Gold, Rad. Gold, CP Gold, Miracle Fruit-su Club
Posts: 9,950
I've never gotten any elite recognition at any Choice property - including upgrades - that I know of.
Paramount, I watch my moving average per room night, including points stays, closely. The 8,000 promos and little points leverage for Gold are a satisfactory ROI. I can't beat Choice. (At the other end, Hyatt has long since out-priced me.) I stay in some really great areas - e.g., Monterey and in Europe - if not hotels, and get to use my money on other things. I don't mind walking to the breakfast room for my amenity (apple, cookies, coffee, water). Nowadays, the only upscale chain where I get breakfast is Hilton, thanks to their easily-earned Gold. I can't speak to Best Western's or Wyndham's or others' programs because I have to concentrate my treasure somewhere.
I'm not normally one to say, "You've gotta understand their (hotel, airline et al) side," but most Choice hotels must run on very slim margins.
ETA: Another value of Choice status ... I once was graced to Club Carlson Gold based on my Choice Diamond ...
Last edited by Firewind; Jul 4, 2015 at 3:18 am