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Jan 28, 2016, 4:03 pm
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Jan 28, 2016, 6:47 pm
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Here is the official announcement, in Chinese, with the text of the rule itself:
http://www.gov.cn/xinwen/2016-01/26/content_5036251.htm
Note especially Section 3:
三、入出境口岸
过境外国人可选择从上海浦东国际机场、虹桥国际机场、上海港国际客运中心、吴淞口国际邮轮港、上海铁路口岸 或者南京禄口国际机场、杭州萧山国际机场中任一口岸入境或出境。
"3. Entry/Exit Ports
"Border-crossing foreigners can choose from among Shanghai Pudong International Airport, Hongqiao International Airport, Shanghai Port International Cruise Terminal, Wusong International Cruise Port, Shanghai Station Railway Port or Nanjing Lukou International Airport, Hangzhou Xiaoshan International Airport whichever one to enter or exit." (unofficial translation)
http://www.gov.cn/xinwen/2016-01/26/content_5036251.htm
Note especially Section 3:
三、入出境口岸
过境外国人可选择从上海浦东国际机场、虹桥国际机场、上海港国际客运中心、吴淞口国际邮轮港、上海铁路口岸 或者南京禄口国际机场、杭州萧山国际机场中任一口岸入境或出境。
"3. Entry/Exit Ports
"Border-crossing foreigners can choose from among Shanghai Pudong International Airport, Hongqiao International Airport, Shanghai Port International Cruise Terminal, Wusong International Cruise Port, Shanghai Station Railway Port or Nanjing Lukou International Airport, Hangzhou Xiaoshan International Airport whichever one to enter or exit." (unofficial translation)
Jan 29, 2016, 12:50 am
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They should drop the third country requirement. Makes no sense on a 6 day twov.
For that matter might as well just offer a visa waiver.
24hr 72hr 144hr ... too many confusing rules...this city..that city..land..sea..air
Good luck.
For that matter might as well just offer a visa waiver.
24hr 72hr 144hr ... too many confusing rules...this city..that city..land..sea..air
Good luck.
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Jan 29, 2016, 1:27 am
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Since they are so definitive on specific identification of seaport facilities, it sounds like they are finally going to put this into practice. Which will help a lot of cruise passengers that end an East Asia cruise in Shanghai and want to fly out. The inclusion of "Shanghai Station Railway Port" implies that the intl train from Hong Kong will be acceptable means of access, as I don't know of any other train that exists that would use this station.
Last edited by jiejie; Jan 29, 2016 at 1:37 am
Jan 29, 2016, 2:31 am
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Right now, no one knows where one will go through Chinese immigration for HSR. In Kowloon or somewhere in China. Or when it will be completed. Or whether it will be completed before 2047.
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Jan 29, 2016, 4:24 am
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You're confusing the permanently-under-construction HSR link from HK to the Mainland with the direct train HK-Shanghai which has been running every other day for many years. On that train, HK immigration formalities are performed on departure in HK and Mainland immigration formalities at Shanghai Station on arrival.
Jan 29, 2016, 7:05 am
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One has to assume that the new HSR will have Chinese immigration in HK prior to departure. They will not build immigration facilities in all the train stations in China and there would be no other way to control it.
Jan 29, 2016, 8:17 am
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Jan 29, 2016, 8:37 am
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"One has to assume that the new HSR will have Chinese immigration in HK prior to departure."
This is a political issue in Hong Kong, where there's concern about Mainland officials enforcing Mainland law in the territory. The Hong Kong government has been holding discussions with the Mainland for years over this issue, and has been very coy about just where those discussions stand.
This is a political issue in Hong Kong, where there's concern about Mainland officials enforcing Mainland law in the territory. The Hong Kong government has been holding discussions with the Mainland for years over this issue, and has been very coy about just where those discussions stand.
Jan 29, 2016, 9:32 am
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You're confusing the permanently-under-construction HSR link from HK to the Mainland with the direct train HK-Shanghai which has been running every other day for many years. On that train, HK immigration formalities are performed on departure in HK and Mainland immigration formalities at Shanghai Station on arrival.
Jan 29, 2016, 9:52 am
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"One has to assume that the new HSR will have Chinese immigration in HK prior to departure."
This is a political issue in Hong Kong, where there's concern about Mainland officials enforcing Mainland law in the territory. The Hong Kong government has been holding discussions with the Mainland for years over this issue, and has been very coy about just where those discussions stand.
This is a political issue in Hong Kong, where there's concern about Mainland officials enforcing Mainland law in the territory. The Hong Kong government has been holding discussions with the Mainland for years over this issue, and has been very coy about just where those discussions stand.
Jan 29, 2016, 10:00 am
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"One has to assume that the new HSR will have Chinese immigration in HK prior to departure."
This is a political issue in Hong Kong, where there's concern about Mainland officials enforcing Mainland law in the territory. The Hong Kong government has been holding discussions with the Mainland for years over this issue, and has been very coy about just where those discussions stand.
This is a political issue in Hong Kong, where there's concern about Mainland officials enforcing Mainland law in the territory. The Hong Kong government has been holding discussions with the Mainland for years over this issue, and has been very coy about just where those discussions stand.
Jan 29, 2016, 12:20 pm
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Agree with JieJie. Pretty simple to do on the existing train. The discussion since post #12 was about how to implement this for the upcoming HSR.
Agree with MSPeconomist that it could be done this way. Isn't that what they do on the HK-Guangzhou train? The only problem with doing this with the first stop is that Futian is just minutes away from HK by train, not quite enough time. Unless such train doesn't stop in Futian but then you wonder why they built that station.
Agree with MSPeconomist that it could be done this way. Isn't that what they do on the HK-Guangzhou train? The only problem with doing this with the first stop is that Futian is just minutes away from HK by train, not quite enough time. Unless such train doesn't stop in Futian but then you wonder why they built that station.
Jan 29, 2016, 12:39 pm
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They haven't announced the stopping points of the HSR service out of HK yet, but since the new route is designed in part to alleviate pressure on the existing East Rail service to Shenzhen, no doubt some trains if not all will stop at Futian. It's a massive station.
And I've never been on a HK-Guangzhou train with onboard immigration checks; processing is always on arrival at Guangzhou.
And I've never been on a HK-Guangzhou train with onboard immigration checks; processing is always on arrival at Guangzhou.
Jan 29, 2016, 7:01 pm
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The mainland China formalities could be done on board, between the border and the first stop. European trains have been doing this for ages. It would be less attractive if they were to do the old DDR procedure of stopping the train at a small station (where no one can choose to get on or off the train) just over the border and having authorities come through the train to do immigration and customs before the train goes on.
Agree with JieJie. Pretty simple to do on the existing train. The discussion since post #12 was about how to implement this for the upcoming HSR.
Agree with MSPeconomist that it could be done this way. Isn't that what they do on the HK-Guangzhou train? The only problem with doing this with the first stop is that Futian is just minutes away from HK by train, not quite enough time. Unless such train doesn't stop in Futian but then you wonder why they built that station.
Agree with MSPeconomist that it could be done this way. Isn't that what they do on the HK-Guangzhou train? The only problem with doing this with the first stop is that Futian is just minutes away from HK by train, not quite enough time. Unless such train doesn't stop in Futian but then you wonder why they built that station.