OMG [TSA self congratulations]
Aug 16, 2017, 11:21 am
#16
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I wonder when they will do something similar for the TSA agent who confiscated my ballpoint pen?
Thankfully it was a cheapo throwaway... I don't fly with any of my nice pens anymore. Can be embarrassing at times while I'm at my destination though.
Thankfully it was a cheapo throwaway... I don't fly with any of my nice pens anymore. Can be embarrassing at times while I'm at my destination though.
Aug 16, 2017, 2:37 pm
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To their credit they did detect one probable terrorist in front of me... a woman in her seventies trying to sneak on a 6 oz container of moisturizer in her purse... of course it was nearly empty but ITS THE SIZE OF THE CONTAINER THAT MATTERS and no, we all thought it was fine for him to yell at her.
Aug 17, 2017, 8:50 am
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To their credit they did detect one probable terrorist in front of me... a woman in her seventies trying to sneak on a 6 oz container of moisturizer in her purse... of course it was nearly empty but ITS THE SIZE OF THE CONTAINER THAT MATTERS and no, we all thought it was fine for him to yell at her.
Aug 17, 2017, 9:00 am
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* That is the published rule. We have no idea what the SSI SOP actually says, and of course, the screener always has the 'final say' anyway.
Aug 17, 2017, 9:08 am
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A screener told my wife once that he thought there were too many liquids in her bag and they may not let her through. All of the bottles were 100 mL or less and the bag easily closed.
I find it funny that they are congratulating themselves on finding a knife when that is one of the most basic parts of their job. Also it's kind of ironic calling the knife a great catch when 3 or 4 years ago they announced that small knifes weren't a threat anymore and would be allowed through security.
I find it funny that they are congratulating themselves on finding a knife when that is one of the most basic parts of their job. Also it's kind of ironic calling the knife a great catch when 3 or 4 years ago they announced that small knifes weren't a threat anymore and would be allowed through security.
Aug 17, 2017, 9:20 am
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Their failure rate has been climbing over the years. During the last test we know about, earlier this year, they missed 95% of the fake threats.
They continue to look for guns somehow concealed in people's butt cracks, crotches, water bottles and breast milk.
Ironic that they spend so much time rubbing people's genitals, because on one of the last tests, the tester taped something to his back. He set off the WTMD/NoS and got a follow-up grope.
They missed the item taped to his back.
So what does TSA do? It doubles down on searching genitals. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
They continue to look for guns somehow concealed in people's butt cracks, crotches, water bottles and breast milk.
Ironic that they spend so much time rubbing people's genitals, because on one of the last tests, the tester taped something to his back. He set off the WTMD/NoS and got a follow-up grope.
They missed the item taped to his back.
So what does TSA do? It doubles down on searching genitals. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Aug 17, 2017, 9:37 am
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Their failure rate has been climbing over the years. During the last test we know about, earlier this year, they missed 95% of the fake threats.
They continue to look for guns somehow concealed in people's butt cracks, crotches, water bottles and breast milk.
Ironic that they spend so much time rubbing people's genitals, because on one of the last tests, the tester taped something to his back. He set off the WTMD/NoS and got a follow-up grope.
They missed the item taped to his back.
So what does TSA do? It doubles down on searching genitals. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
They continue to look for guns somehow concealed in people's butt cracks, crotches, water bottles and breast milk.
Ironic that they spend so much time rubbing people's genitals, because on one of the last tests, the tester taped something to his back. He set off the WTMD/NoS and got a follow-up grope.
They missed the item taped to his back.
So what does TSA do? It doubles down on searching genitals. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Kinda makes it understandable why TSA didn't try to prosecute that Denver screener who liked feeling up men.
Aug 17, 2017, 10:48 am
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That reminds me, I need to invent startup company called "Net Wt. 2.9oz". Our company name will be written in bold black print on the bottom of our product on the front label. We will sell liquid bathroom products in all weights and sizes of course. In fact, we at Net Wt. 2.9oz are proud of our new line of 6oz bottles of hand sanitizer.
As the law requires, our new 6oz bottle of hand sanitizer has it's net weight labeled clearly on the back label in 1pt font one shade of white darker than the bottle itself.
As the law requires, our new 6oz bottle of hand sanitizer has it's net weight labeled clearly on the back label in 1pt font one shade of white darker than the bottle itself.
Aug 17, 2017, 10:58 am
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That happened to me a few years ago. A nearly empty tube of toothepaste (maybe 5oz or so if it was full). But it was had maybe 2 or 3 uses left before I was going to through it away. Arguing with the screener was useless. He kept repeating that "it is what the original ounces that matter not what is left in the tube."
Aug 17, 2017, 11:01 am
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That reminds me, I need to invent startup company called "Net Wt. 2.9oz". Our company name will be written in bold black print on the bottom of our product on the front label. We will sell liquid bathroom products in all weights and sizes of course. In fact, we at Net Wt. 2.9oz are proud of our new line of 6oz bottles of hand sanitizer.
As the law requires, our new 6oz bottle of hand sanitizer has it's net weight labeled clearly on the back label in 1pt font one shade of white darker than the bottle itself.
As the law requires, our new 6oz bottle of hand sanitizer has it's net weight labeled clearly on the back label in 1pt font one shade of white darker than the bottle itself.
Aug 17, 2017, 12:48 pm
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A friend brought back 100ml bottles of liquor from London - in carry-on. There was an inch of space in the neck of the bottle, so the bottle was clearly larger than 100ml. Fortunately, it was a non-stop flight to the US and she touched down at her final destination, or they might have been confiscated.
Aug 17, 2017, 2:31 pm
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That happened to me a few years ago. A nearly empty tube of toothepaste (maybe 5oz or so if it was full). But it was had maybe 2 or 3 uses left before I was going to through it away. Arguing with the screener was useless. He kept repeating that "it is what the original ounces that matter not what is left in the tube."
Second question, would a TSA screener know the difference?
Aug 17, 2017, 4:12 pm
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Aug 17, 2017, 4:54 pm
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That happened to me a few years ago. A nearly empty tube of toothepaste (maybe 5oz or so if it was full). But it was had maybe 2 or 3 uses left before I was going to through it away. Arguing with the screener was useless. He kept repeating that "it is what the original ounces that matter not what is left in the tube."
"Yes, Ms. Screener, I understand that this bottle says that it's 7 ounces. But you can clearly see that it's only 45% full, which means that it's really only 3.15 ounces, which is obviously less than the 3.4 ounces allowed."
Do we really want TSA screeners performing volumetric measurements and higher mathematics as a part of the screening process? (You think screening is slow *now* ...)
Or, worse ... would you like to see TSA congratulating itself (yay, back on topic!) for confiscating an LGA container because the screener correctly calculated that the container held 3.5 ounces of liquid?
The rule is stupid, but it's easy to enforce.
