Interesting... Chicago Airport Cops Declare that They Aren't Real Cops
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I think that is a very unfair statement that quite simply doesn't comport with the facts. But why let facts get in the way of an opportunity to disparage...
It is not that they weren't capable. It is understandable the employees and their union didn't agree to the change when they rightly believed they were law enforcement officers because the state regulators certified them as law enforcement officers and certified their employer as a law enforcement agency.
That is the same state regulator that although it just recently rescinded their recognition as certified as law enforcement officers and the certification of their employer as law enforcement agency while at the SAME time says the employees certification as law enforcement officers remains on the record.
But most importantly, to remove that word from the employer supplied uniforms, patches, equipment and vehicles decals/paint means the employer had to provide the new uniforms, patches, equipment and vehicles decals/paint to make the change. Blaming the employees for the employer not carrying out the employer's own instruction doesn't seem quite fair...
forgot to add: the instruction was issued BEFORE the Board of Police Standards issued their rescission of recognition.
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I think that is a very unfair statement that quite simply doesn't comport with the facts. But why let facts get in the way of an opportunity to disparage...
It is not that they weren't capable. It is understandable the employees and their union didn't agree to the change when they rightly believed they were law enforcement officers because the state regulators certified them as law enforcement officers and certified their employer as a law enforcement agency.
That is the same state regulator that although it just recently rescinded their recognition as certified as law enforcement officers and the certification of their employer as law enforcement agency while at the SAME time says the employees certification as law enforcement officers remains on the record.
But most importantly, to remove that word from the employer supplied uniforms, patches, equipment and vehicles decals/paint means the employer had to provide the new uniforms, patches, equipment and vehicles decals/paint to make the change. Blaming the employees for the employer not carrying out the employer's own instruction doesn't seem quite fair...
forgot to add: the instruction was issued BEFORE the Board of Police Standards issued their rescission of recognition.
It is not that they weren't capable. It is understandable the employees and their union didn't agree to the change when they rightly believed they were law enforcement officers because the state regulators certified them as law enforcement officers and certified their employer as a law enforcement agency.
That is the same state regulator that although it just recently rescinded their recognition as certified as law enforcement officers and the certification of their employer as law enforcement agency while at the SAME time says the employees certification as law enforcement officers remains on the record.
But most importantly, to remove that word from the employer supplied uniforms, patches, equipment and vehicles decals/paint means the employer had to provide the new uniforms, patches, equipment and vehicles decals/paint to make the change. Blaming the employees for the employer not carrying out the employer's own instruction doesn't seem quite fair...
forgot to add: the instruction was issued BEFORE the Board of Police Standards issued their rescission of recognition.
Last edited by Boggie Dog; Jul 17, 2017 at 3:49 pm
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Superiors of these people told them to remove the words "Police" from their uniforms. Some didn't obey that order so I think Chollie is on target. That they might not agree with their superiors doesn't matter and is a battle to be fought behind the out of public view.
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It is not that they weren't capable. It is understandable the employees and their union didn't agree to the change when they rightly believed they were law enforcement officers because the state regulators certified them as law enforcement officers and certified their employer as a law enforcement agency.
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It is not that they weren't capable. It is understandable the employees and their union didn't agree to the change when they rightly believed they were law enforcement officers because the state regulators certified them as law enforcement officers and certified their employer as a law enforcement agency.
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The point is that there was never any intention for these employees to have roles as sworn officers of the law. They in fact were not/are not sworn in, are not covered by qualified immunity like real LEOs, don't carry weapons, etc. So, they were not/are not LEOs regardless of their qual/creds/training that you mention.
It's a benefit to everyone, even to these aviation security employees, that it be made clear these folks are NOT police.
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I haven't heard these guys suggesting that someone in their chain of command ordered them to disregard the order to stop using the word 'police'. I haven't heard that any of them approached their management about the best way to comply with the directive.