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Old Jun 15, 2017, 9:46 pm
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Paste the link to a FB or Twitter account and then click the link.

Well I leave on a TATL trip in less than 3 weeks so of course the ban will be expanded then.

I think they do it out of spite, like other actions they're taking. Hence they're going to try to curtail travel to Cuba, back out of the Paris Accords, etc. because they know such actions will aggravate some people.
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Old Jun 16, 2017, 8:04 am
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Originally Posted by wco81
Paste the link to a FB or Twitter account and then click the link.
Can I borrow someones then?

Joking aside, why on earth do people paste links to articles that they must know are behind a paywall? Do people forget they subscribe to it?
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Old Jun 16, 2017, 8:14 am
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Can I borrow someones then?

Joking aside, why on earth do people paste links to articles that they must know are behind a paywall? Do people forget they subscribe to it?
Wouldn't matter, just tried and article seems to no longer be available.
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Old Jun 16, 2017, 8:35 am
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From the WSJ article:

"BRUSSELS—Europe’s top air-safety regulator issued the most explicit criticism yet of U.S. proposals to ban laptops from the cabins of more foreign airliners destined for American airports, even as officials in Washington indicated they may compromise by accepting less-sweeping security measures.

Highlighting the extent of European opposition to an expanded ban on taking large electronic devices in carry-on bags–a measure intended to combat possible terrorist threats–Patrick Ky, head of the European Aviation Safety Agency, on Wednesday said months of laboratory tests likely are required to properly assess the potential fire hazards of flying large numbers of laptops with lithium batteries in cargo holds."

And this:

"EASA’s executive director vowed to play a greater role in current and future debates over such trade-offs. “This is going to be a very strong position on our side,” he said."

Thank you, European regulators. Don't let the US bully you.

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Old Jun 16, 2017, 8:39 am
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Originally Posted by susiesan
From the article:

"BRUSSELS—Europe’s top air-safety regulator issued the most explicit criticism yet of U.S. proposals to ban laptops from the cabins of more foreign airliners destined for American airports, even as officials in Washington indicated they may compromise by accepting less-sweeping security measures.

Highlighting the extent of European opposition to an expanded ban on taking large electronic devices in carry-on bags–a measure intended to combat possible terrorist threats–Patrick Ky, head of the European Aviation Safety Agency, on Wednesday said months of laboratory tests likely are required to properly assess the potential fire hazards of flying large numbers of laptops with lithium batteries in cargo holds."

And this:

"EASA’s executive director vowed to play a greater role in current and future debates over such trade-offs. “This is going to be a very strong position on our side,” he said."

Thank you, European regulators. Don't let the US bully you.
Thanks for this.
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Old Jun 16, 2017, 9:16 am
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Thanks for this.
Do you want me to post the rest of the article? Is that allowed?
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Old Jun 16, 2017, 9:36 am
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Old Jun 16, 2017, 10:45 am
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Kelly is demanding other countries to meet certain standards and implement measures in order not to be included in an expanded ban:

http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....s-air-markets/

Here's the original CNN story on which the blog post is based:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/15/politi...ons/index.html
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Old Jun 16, 2017, 10:57 am
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I wonder if one of the practices Kelly is going to insist the world's airports adopt is the trademark TSA genital rub: repeated vertical and horizontal stroking, supplementing by nudging, cupping and butt crack dips.

I'm all for that if he insists that airport TSOs get the same fondling when they arrive for work and randomly throughout the day - including a quota of LTSOs and STSOs.

The practices Kelly will insist on will be designed to bring overseas checkpoints to a halt, leaving them with no alternative but to pony up for CT scanners whose sale will benefit Kelly and his cronies.

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Old Jun 16, 2017, 11:16 am
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"I think the thing that everyone needs to remember, the threat against commercial aviation, passenger aviation, is relentless. Constant," Kelly said. "It is what they want to do more than anything else, is blow an airplane up, ideally full of Americans or as many Americans as possible, that's what they want to do."
Kelly claims that terrorists are obsessed with attacking U.S. airplanes but does the evidence support that position? Are terrorist so incompetent that they have not been able to penetrate TSA's half-assed security system since 9/11/2001? I'm not buying what Kelly is trying to sale.

Fear mongering is just not helpful but seems to be DHS/TSA's only tool to sway the public into accepting all manner of despicable acts against their persons.

Impress me Secretary Kelly, provide some verifiable evidence of these threats!
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Old Jun 16, 2017, 8:14 pm
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Kelly claims that terrorists are obsessed with attacking U.S. airplanes but does the evidence support that position?
No, there isn't.
There have been no real attempts to target western aircraft since the failed shoe and underware bomb. The "liquid plot" that lead to the "war on water" never even got past the "maybe we could do this" idea phase.

The only attacks on aircraft by terrorists have been on middle east carriers, which can very easily be linked to the ongoing Sunni/Shi'a conflict. Those incidents are claimed by the US to be tests and reasons to increase security, yet none of them even went through a checkpoint. There has been no reason to increase checkpoint screening or ban certain types of item. There has been reason to actually screen airport workers (eg baggage handlers and TSOs).

Meanwhile, there has been no attempts to attack western aircraft, and only attacks on soft targets such as hotels, stadiums, and check in lines.
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Old Jun 17, 2017, 2:00 am
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Smells like WMD all over again.
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Old Jun 28, 2017, 9:19 am
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The Homeland Security Department is set to announce new security for international flights bound to the United States.

Industry and U.S. officials briefed on the announcement said airports and airlines around the world will be required to implement the measures. If they don’t, their passengers may be barred from carrying laptops and other large electronics in passenger cabins.
I can't copy and paste the link for some reason, but the small article can be read from here:

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Old Jun 28, 2017, 9:28 am
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https://www.usnews.com/news/business...tional-flights

One article but doesn't have any detail at all.
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Old Jun 28, 2017, 10:20 am
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
https://www.usnews.com/news/business...tional-flights

One article but doesn't have any detail at all.
The CNN version refers to airports rather than airlines

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/28/po...res/index.html
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